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Kim Kardashian has received an $80m payment related to the mobile game

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Why is it a problem to use your daughter's sex tape to launch a career? Does this shit really need to be explained?

Robert Downey Jr. used to be one-foot in the grave with his drug addiction, now he's one of the hottest stars in Hollywood. Things change, and bad things can happen, you might find what they did morally questionable sure, but hey, seems she's doing alright now.

I take umbrage with this statement because it just comes across as stealth victim-blaming. Again, some people are given privilege and entitlement many others will never get, but again, that shit happened over a fucking DECADE ago.
 

Mikeside

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Before this thread gets too large, I would implore everyone reading this to just please cast your eyes over this tweet.

I'm not a fan of her or anything, but this says it all really.

I think people are largely put off because of the TV show.

Who gives a fuck. Let her be.





I'm mad jelly for all that cash though
 

Nev

Banned
Is that a real tweet that has been "loved" by 200.000 people? Haha jesus christ, what an abominable society we've managed to live in.
 
. Is sex so fucking taboo to you that the idea of taping yourself having sex and selling it o interested people just bad?

Do you get riled up at the idea of pornstars retiring and raising kids too

Do me a favour and don't put words in my mouth. Secondly saying that others should do what this family did to get famous is basically promoting exploitation. It's a horrible example to give to others.


So if you had a daughter who's sex tape was leaked you would totally be fine using that to get famous off of?
 

Mikeside

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I don't care what she says, the rampant sexualisation of our culture is a tragedy and she's all too happy to play her part in it.

Sexualisation of people who are happy to be sexualised isn't a problem.

It's unwanted sexualisation that's the problem.
 

ramparter

Banned
I'm actually happy for her. It's nice to see people be succesful as long as they aren't harming other people in the process.
 

Glix

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I have some respect for that tweet someone posted on page one but...

What she seems to be missing is that the bad feelings come from the fact that her fame is based soley on her being a slut, she is not talented. And her contined fame is again, due to her body, and her familys willingness to be exploited in every way possible.

If they stopped with the reality shows, and she stopped posting half and wholly naked pics of herself, she would NOT be famous much anymore. Shes not dropping some incredible album or winning an oscar or a pulitzer. In terms of reasons we should be interested in her, all she really brings to the table are tits and ass.
 

ponpo

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People still sex tape shaming? Come on fam, it's [current year]!!!

Also it still made 19million in one quarter in 2015? Yeesh.
 

leeh

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So if you had a daughter who's sex tape was leaked you would totally be fine using that to get famous off of?
It's not your daughter's fault it got leaked. Are you going to teach your daughter not to turn negatives into positives? Are you going to tell her off for having sex legally and making a private sex tape?
 
I have some respect for that tweet someone posted on page one but...

What she seems to be missing is that the bad feelings come from the fact that her fame is based soley on her being a slut, she is not talented. And her contined fame is again, due to her body, and her familys willingness to be exploited in every way possible.

I'd say this statement says more about you than the majority, if I'm being perfectly honest.
 

wildfire

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Kanye is going to feel pretty depressed when he can't cash a check half as large when his videogame comes out.

I'm positive it simply won't be as popular as his wife's game.
 
Re: the role model talk.

My Sister is a fan of this family and the TV show and especially this Kendall person. They all sound like air heads to me and I don't get the appeal.

I love the idea of lots of money, but not watching those that have it flaunt it. That's boring, it's like a Zoo/Freak show isn't it? I'm interested in the mechanics behind how people make money, business, entrepreneurs etc. I suppose it's a bit much to expect my Sister to be into that.

Personally I'd be much more comfortable if my Sister had role models from intellectual or sporting fields. Slightly less but also acceptable would be entrepreneurs. That's where I draw my inspiration from. Carl Sagan, Brian Cox, Christopher Hitchens, Albert Einstein, Atatürk, the people on Youtube channel Crash Course etc.

So all the aforementioned posts defending Kim Kardashian as a role model, I hope that will shut you up.
 
So if you had a daughter who's sex tape was leaked you would totally be fine using that to get famous off of?
Yeah, I don't see the problem.
Unless you mean me personally.

Ok ok, I've stop. I just can't stand this type of person being respected, she's pretty much inspiring à whole generation of young girl to grow ultra dumb while making money over the less fortunate.

Her twit message sounded incredibly eletist and it pisses me off that people knees to her.
Think back on what you said and then look at what she's done.
 

Oersted

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Ok ok, I've stop. I just can't stand this type of person being respected, she's pretty much inspiring à whole generation of young girl to grow ultra dumb while making money over the less fortunate.

Her twit message sounded incredibly eletist and it pisses me off that people knees to her.

Yes, the system capitalism is very gross.
 

Boogdud

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I sure can't wait for a gaming side thread discussion on Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. That is just what I needed this morning.

And on this day, a gracious super-being from O-T taught all of us plebian "gaming side" proto humans how to live. Our watershed is here!
 

Sandfox

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Well its good to see Kanye has money to survive a few weeks now lol.

Also, I don't get the "rich people making money off of poor people" argument going around since that's obviously how the world works for any service or product from an established brand.

Kanye is going to feel pretty depressed when he can't cash a check half as large when his videogame comes out.

I'm positive it simply won't be as popular as his wife's game.

Kanye fans are crazy dedicated.
 
It's not your daughter's fault it got leaked. Are you going to teach your daughter not to turn negatives into positives? Are you going to tell her off for having sex legally and making a private sex tape?

There's a massive difference to supporting your daughter through a hard time like that and making a profit off of it.
 

cm osi

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eugh
 

Whompa02

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Why is she bragging to the world that she's rich?

She also brags to the world that she has sex?

Wow...tell me more! What other secrets do you hold?! Seems like a great role model...
 
I have some respect for that tweet someone posted on page one but...

What she seems to be missing is that the bad feelings come from the fact that her fame is based soley on her being a slut, she is not talented. And her contined fame is again, due to her body, and her familys willingness to be exploited in every way possible.

If they stopped with the reality shows, and she stopped posting half and wholly naked pics of herself, she would NOT be famous much anymore. Shes not dropping some incredible album or winning an oscar or a pulitzer. In terms of reasons we should be interested in her, all she really brings to the table are tits and ass.

Who knew that sexism would show up in this thread.
 
Casuals think she's just someone who got lucky with a break and "famous for being famous", like she came from some Armenian ghetto. That was the roadmap, but not anyone can do that with everything else being the same, her background was the biggest enabler helping her get there.

Grew up in Beverly Hills born to one of the richest lawyers in America. She has dated nothing but multimillionaires all her life and gets VIP treatment to the most exclusive events in the world.

My point is if ppl understood this, they probably wouldn't be so jealous of her fame/fortune since it wasn't all "luck". Contacts and friends helped a lot getting her where she is. Arguably that might the worse of the two since it would be about "need money to make money" and "it's about who you know". As opposed to only just being about making it "real big" solely through the fame game. Personally it's all legit so I have no issue with her fame/money or how she got it, like a lot of "famous for being famous" types.
 

Glix

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Why do you care?

Hahaha nice one bro. Well done.

I care because we are here on neogaf talking about it.

I didnt start the thread.

Next time you should back up your personal attacks a litle harder.

two can play at this game. Why do you care about my post so much that you had to reply?
 

Whompa02

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Who knew that sexism would show up in this thread.

That's not really the definition of sexism...flip the genders and you still have some talentless person who skyrockets into fame and fortune through who they know, and not what they actually do...unless you consider sex tapes a form of high art.
 
That's not really the definition of sexism...flip the genders and you still have some talentless person who skyrockets into fame and fortune through who they know, and not what they actually do...unless you consider sex tapes a form of high art.

Yep,that comment would totally be the same if it was a man. I bet people would also use the word "slut" to describe him.
 
Why is she bragging to the world that she's rich?

She also brags to the world that she has sex?

Wow...tell me more! What other secrets do you hold?! Seems like a great role model...

The context is that she tweeted this in response to a significant wave of hate over a nude picture she posted. Kind of a "fuck off" statement.
 

samn

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Sexualisation of people who are happy to be sexualised isn't a problem.

It's unwanted sexualisation that's the problem.

It is a problem when I can't go about my life without seeing it plastered everywhere. I don't care if she wants me to see it. I shouldn't have to.
 

leeh

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There's a massive difference to supporting your daughter through a hard time like that and making a profit off of it.
Why not both? Why can't you support your daughter through a hard time but help her astronomically through financial gain?
 

RoadHazard

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Count me among those who don't understand what she has ever done to earn any of her success. She's literally famous for being famous. Like, that's her entire life's achievement. Sex tape, reality show, Kanye marriage, $80 million phone game check. There are so many people so much more deserving of that success, fame and money, who will never see anything close to it, so I just can't respect her very much at all.
 

Galang

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Yes. Everyone should be ashamed of
sex
and never ever try to turn something that was leaked in a hurtful manner into a positive for them.

Yup! When bad things happen you're only allowed to make it worse never better. The hate people have for certain celebrities is weird. Focus on your own damn life and don't waste negative energy on people you've never met
 

KJRS_1993

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She's earned that money fair.
Kim Kardashian is razor sharp - she knows the game and plays it better than almost everyone.

People here moaning saying she's only rich because she lets people "exploit" her (whatever that means). I can tell if it was any of you in her shoes, y'all would do exactly the same as she did.
At least I can admit I'm jealous ;)
 
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