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giga

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outunderthestars said:
Why does the source code matter when the UI has nothing to do with Android as it is currently known?
Because Amazon's launcher UI still relies on the underlying Android framework to function properly and run apps.
 

Vyer

Member
Still 'shipping soon', damn. :(

zou said:
That wired review is pretty ridiculous.



So an iPad Wifi is shit and behind the times? Other than the horrible camera, these would apply to both the Kindle Fire as well as the iPad...
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The ipad has a 3G option, and even without the removable there's a considerably larger amount of storage available.

The Wired view is too harsh imo (and not something I want to hear as i wait for mine to ship), but a tablet launching now is different than a tablet launching back when the ipad 1 came out, so it's not necessarily unfair that it should be judged accordingly.
 
giga said:
Watching videos of it show the same choppiness that most other Android 2.x devices suffer from. Shame that they couldn't start with the 3.x source code (well done, Google). That means no hardware acceleration and the additional tablet specific APIs. The third party apps from the app store will basically be apps designed for phones and smaller devices.
You were who I needed in the Nook thread. Can you explain why they are all using 2.3? Is it an Amazon/Barnes and Noble problem, or a Google problem? I don't understand why there are various versions of Android floating around on new hardware.
 

dream

Member
HiroProtagonist said:
You were who I needed in the Nook thread. Can you explain why they are all using 2.3? Is it an Amazon/Barnes and Noble problem, or a Google problem? I don't understand why there are various versions of Android floating around on new hardware.

Google never released the source code for Android 3.0.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Trent Strong said:
Dat price. Cheaper than an iPod touch.

Touch has been over priced like a boss for a while though. The base model only has 8 gigs and as far as we know it's still only packing 256 megs of RAM. Also while it has similar specs the screen and the camera in actuality aren't near as good as the iPhone stuff.

People seem to not care enough about this fact though. This was all true before the Fire released too.
 

Vanillalite

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outunderthestars said:
Why does the source code matter when the UI has nothing to do with Android as it is currently known?

Backend and the APIs are part of the root problems performance wise. No pun intended.
 
Brettison said:
Touch has been over priced like a boss for a while though. The base model only has 8 gigs and as far as we know it's still only packing 256 megs of RAM. Also while it has similar specs the screen and the camera in actuality aren't near as good as the iPhone stuff.

People seem to not care enough about this fact though. This was all true before the Fire released too.


People don't really buy Apple products based on hardware specs.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
outunderthestars said:
People don't really buy Apple products based on hardware specs.

I don't disagree. I know a lot of people who even though they don't care about hardware specs complain about the 8 gigs though.
 
Brettison said:
I don't disagree. I know a lot of people who even though they don't care about hardware specs complain about the 8 gigs though.


This is true. I'm trying to figure out what to buy my daughter her birthday in two weeks. Debating between an ipod touch, the Kindle Fire, or a PS3. I'd buy her the touch in a heartbeat if they offered more storage...
 

dLMN8R

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Gah! when I moved in October, I updated all the shipping addresses in my address book, but the order was still placed with my old address. So it shipped to my old address :-(
 

- J - D -

Member
Oddly disappointing, though I wasn't expecting anything amazing considering the specs and price.

I watched a number of vid reviews, and in all of them browsing through pages, in books, mags, and comics looked choppy and sluggish. That's a deal breaker to me.
 

bangai-o

Banned
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screw it i said
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Mine should be here tomorrow. Feel like it was totally unnecessary to pre-order though since it is in stores today.

Looking forward to seeing how it performs.
 
Will be waiting for the next release probably. Been dying for a Fantasy Football / College Hoops companion that has all-day battery life at a reduced price.
 

AVclub

Junior Member
My wife's is listed as "Out for delivery" in our neighborhood. So I assume it will be there when we get home. Can't wait to see how it stacks up with my iPad2. :D
 
My Fire was delivered to my house at 7:58AM. That's the earliest I've ever had something delivered from Amazon. I've taken it to work so that I can start playing around with it.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Target said they don't know if it's online exclusive or retailer exclusive. They didn't get any in and don't know if they will before xmas, black friday, etc. No word at all.

Or maybe the electronics guy just sucks.

Will try Best Buy.
 

renitou

Member
Pre-ordered the day of the announcement in September, with the plan of either holding onto it for myself, or flipping it on eBay in December if Amazon can't meet demand.

My girlfriend ordered one as well, so I'm looking forward to futzing about with it to make my decision; I really hate that inherent "hitchiness" to Android from past experience, so it's disappointing to hear some impressions that that problem is still in full effect. :- \
 
I messed around with a demo unit at the Target in town and I definitely like it. Buyers have 30 days to return, correct? I've always wanted a Kindle and I may have to pick this one up. I've read a few reviews and all the things they nitpicked at didn't bother me on the demo unit.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
dream said:
Google never released the source code for Android 3.0.

Really? Was that intentional? (I assume it was.) If so, what's the rationale aside from not helping competitors?
 

LCfiner

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Loki said:
Really? Was that intentional? (I assume it was.) If so, what's the rationale aside from not helping competitors?

I'm pretty sure it was because 3.0 was full of dirty, dirty hacks to get it working on time for the fist Android tablet launches.

I think ICS has already been made open source. someone correct me if I'm wrong
 
LCfiner said:
I'm pretty sure it was because 3.0 was full of dirty, dirty hacks to get it working on time for the fist Android tablet launches.

I think ICS has already been made open source. someone correct me if I'm wrong
It has, they also made Honeycomb source available yesterday.
 
The stock browser on the Fire is very similar to what I have on my DroidX. Pages are loading normally, though I can't judge the speed until I get off my works slow wifi network and take this home.

And I will need to get a screen protector for this thing. It loves fingerprints, just like the iPad.
 

CzarTim

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Got mine and am really digging it. The zooming isn't as smooth as iOS devices, but it really isn't that bad. Had the reviews not mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed it. Also, the mail app doesn't have an archive button for gmail users.

Once Spotify is released, I'll be a happy camper.
 
Reviews on Engadet, Gizmodo and Verge are positive.

On Engadget, however, they mentioned something about audio problems. They said,

"Swapping over to your own 'buds or headset obviously helps, but we still weren't impressed by the audio fidelity. There's a very, very subtle pop when playback starts and something of a constant hiss in the background during playback, even when the music is paused. Audiophile quality this isn't."

Can anyone confirm this?
 

CzarTim

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perryfarrell said:
Reviews on Engadet, Gizmodo and Verge are positive.

On Engadget, however, they mentioned something about audio problems. They said,

"Swapping over to your own 'buds or headset obviously helps, but we still weren't impressed by the audio fidelity. There's a very, very subtle pop when playback starts and something of a constant hiss in the background during playback, even when the music is paused. Audiophile quality this isn't."

Can anyone confirm this?
Obviously the speaker quality isn't the best, but I just listened to an entire album and heard no hissing.
 
Well, on Cnet, they have a different take on audio: "The Kindle doesn't offer any high-tech sound enhancements or EQ settings, but the fact that they managed to pull off a clean, quiet headphone output is a rare accomplishment at this price."

So it seems it's not a problem
 

BFIB

Member
Ugh, seriously UPS, get here already! Any other time, they are here around 11 am, and it is almost 3 PM and still no sign of them.
 

Otheradam

Member
Just got mine. The sluggishness isn't as bad as some reviews make it out to be. It's ok. Kind of small for web browsing- which is what I'd use it for mainly. I am going to try to read a bit of a book on it to see how it is. Right now it's a 50/50 change I will keep or send it back to Amazon and wait for the inevitable better version next year.
 

CzarTim

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Otheradam said:
Just got mine. The sluggishness isn't as bad as some reviews make it out to be. It's ok. Kind of small for web browsing- which is what I'd use it for mainly. I am going to try to read a bit of a book on it to see how it is. Right now it's a 50/50 change I will keep or send it back to Amazon and wait for the inevitable better version next year.
Browsing would be a lot better if you could full screen.
 
Mine has arrived, after futzing with it for an hour or so I think I am sending it back.

I really, really, really hate the interface.

All of the streaming video also looked really bad.

The gyro is super sensitive

not having physical buttons makes me want to hurt things.

I'll post more details later, but as of now I am really underwhelmed. :(
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Got mine at Best Buy. Although they didn't have any cases.... :(

Browser seems fast enough. I've been playing around with it and it loads up everything just fine. I've hit a few image heavy photography websites and haven't had any problems.

I like the interface. I have a Droid so it's easy for me to find my way around.
 

RevDM

Banned
If anyone here gets a text book for kindle, please take pics and post it on here. I'm really on the fence about getting the fire or nook. I want to get a few digital medical atlas' so I can look boss walking the clinic.
 
I've been wanting to buy a Kindle for quite some time now. I mostly want it for textbooks, but I'm not sure how many textbooks have made the leap to digital. Anyone care to shed some light?
 

BFIB

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Ok, UPS guy finally showed up at my doorstep about an hour ago. Said he has been going all over today delivering Kindles. Lots of orders in my area, apparently.

So, so far I must say, I am impressed. Sure, its not flashy, the UI is basic, but it does exactly what I want it to do. Downloaded the first volume of Walking Dead using comiXology, and the screen looks great. Streamed a few videos from Netflix, and the quality is decent. Not iPad level display, but for $200, I think its really good.

Got the free version of Angry Birds, just to mess around. Load ups were quick enough, and the touchscreen is very responsive.

The main negatives I have so far is the lack of a volume rocker on the case. Really hate the fact that you have to use the software to lower or raise the volume.

But, no doubt, when the 10" hits, I'll sell this and upgrade. But, for now, its a perfectly serviceable tablet. Very happy w/ my purchase.
 
I don't think there will be any issues with supply. They've been hyping this for months and haven't had any problems fulfilling orders.

My wife ordered me one this morning, and it arrives tomorrow. Got it mainly to stream movies while in bed. Interested to checkout Amazons selection.
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
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Noooooo! I have to wait till Christmas! I'm soooo close! :-(
 

RevDM

Banned
nemss said:
Ok, UPS guy finally showed up at my doorstep about an hour ago. Said he has been going all over today delivering Kindles. Lots of orders in my area, apparently.

So, so far I must say, I am impressed. Sure, its not flashy, the UI is basic, but it does exactly what I want it to do. Downloaded the first volume of Walking Dead using comiXology, and the screen looks great. Streamed a few videos from Netflix, and the quality is decent. Not iPad level display, but for $200, I think its really good.

Got the free version of Angry Birds, just to mess around. Load ups were quick enough, and the touchscreen is very responsive.

The main negatives I have so far is the lack of a volume rocker on the case. Really hate the fact that you have to use the software to lower or raise the volume.

But, no doubt, when the 10" hits, I'll sell this and upgrade. But, for now, its a perfectly serviceable tablet. Very happy w/ my purchase.


Do you mind loading a PPT file and taking some pics of going between slides?

Here is a link to Microsoft/Yahoo ppt presentation. I really appreciate it!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...cu7_NRlpFMmma7K2Q&sig2=rVlcXpGvOt9swIUGmkaaaA
 
More Kindle Fire weirdness:

Videos in their store are showing up for rental only, with no option to purchase.

Unable to purchase content via the device. Every time I do it says that an error has occurred without telling me what the error is.

Was playing the free app of the day and the Fire's menu button cuts off the bottom of the screen, making it impossible to read the last line of text in dialog.

touch screen sometimes stops responding to touches

LCD screen has a relly bright spot right along the edge with lots of white light bleeding in

And on a random note: it uses a usb micro b connector. It's different from the existing kindle cables.

Still not sure if there is any way to load local content onto the device.

I can't help but shake the feeling that this thing is in beta, both hardware and software wise.
 

Snaku

Banned
So for those that have purchased a movie on Amazon Instant Video, how big is the file size for an average 90 minute film when downloaded to the Fire?
 
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