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Looked this up on Twatter and saw this. Grummz is smart not to stoke the flames on this one.
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I'm out of the loop on this. Are people upset because of gay sex, or do they think Warhorse has gone woke?

It could be part of a quest line, it could be two nuns, it could be a gay lord, it could just be an option at the whore houses/baths... Or it could be nothing. As long as it fits the time period I don't see the issue.If what they want is clarity, then this isn't the best way to go about this.
If you don't have to have gay sex, then just say you do not have to have gay sex. That entire quote was beating around the bush personified.
You are taking the chance of hurting game sales to not spoil things.
The breast-milk stealing gooner man-child is displaying basic grifter behaviour. Him and his beggar podcast friends have gone after other games and studios for displaying way less woke and DEI bullshit, but now that their friends Daniel Vavra and Warhorse are going the exact same route, hiring an activist as their community manager and banning all discussion that could be "on the wrong side of history", everything is ok, actuallyLooked this up on Twatter and saw this. Grummz is smart not to stoke the flames on this one.
Looked this up on Twatter and saw this. Grummz is smart not to stoke the flames on this one.
DownLikeBCPowder I'm out of the loop on this. Are people upset because of gay sex, or do they think Warhorse has gone woke?
This came, best I can tell, from the Saudi rumor. Then came people on Twitter asking dude for clarity, he choose a really offensive asker to respond to, calling him a Nazi piece of shit. From there, gasoline was poured on the speculation and it spread to all twitter threads (from voice actors promoting game, everything) and to Steam forums asking for clarity, or aggroing. Then in response, they added the new "Code of Conduct" post to the Steam forum.
So this is just the latest in the story.
DownLikeBCPowder I'm out of the loop on this. Are people upset because of gay sex, or do they think Warhorse has gone woke?
That's only the middle of the story!Some people are upset just because they set a few codes of conduct on their discussion board.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot like you were. Just figured you had more insight on the drama than I did.Whoa, let's hold our Warhorses, I'm not the expert on this matter. This is all I got :
But to answer the question - they think Warhorse has gone woke.
Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot like you were. Just figured you had more insight on the drama than I did.
I seriously doubt Warhorse has gone woke but time will tell on that. Sounds like people are jumping the gun on this one.
Best I can tell, that's all that's been done so far.The forum moderation update seems like the bigger PR blunder here. That's just adding gasoline to the fire.
Have you seen Grummz squirm his way around this whole issue though? Even saying like nonon just wait, don't cancel the pre-orders yet.The community management stuff is a mistake.
The game itself though? Looks great, don't care if repressive cultures are upset.
I'm out of the loop on this. Are people upset because of gay sex, or do they think Warhorse has gone woke?
Some people are upset just because they set a few codes of conduct on their discussion board.
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This hasn't been verified, but is part of what people are wondering about:
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If the game is woke, then he don't have balls, he simply bended to the same people tried to cancel him. I think people like you are not conscious the real anti woke thing is a 2024 thing. For the most games releasing this year and even 2026 is too much late to make big changes.Looks like DV has bigger balls than I thought. Instead of bending any way the wind blows ( ahem Lords of the Fallen ) he is sticking to his guns and triggering the antiwokes just as much (even more some might argue) as the wokes back in 2018.
Asmongold please respond.
They have truly embrace "the chud". Extremists are not that smartSo if something is banned in a muslim country then it's not good for people in the free world? How stupid are you people?
yeah people on the far left and the far right are equally pathetic, egalitarianism achieved!They have truly embrace "the chud". Extremists are not that smart
Wait until there's something to actually be offended about in the game's content.
Wait .. what am I missing? What's the issue with this image?
Or… he is a merchant or merchant guard from Granada as part of a merchant caravan to buy Silver … in a major Silver mining town in one of the most powerful Kingdoms of HRE?I'm guessing some people are upset that there's a black guy in middle age Bohemia telling a white savage about the progressive paradise he comes from.
Or… he is a merchant or merchant guard from Granada as part of a merchant caravan to buy Silver … in a major Silver mining town in one of the most powerful Kingdoms of HRE?
But yes, I am sure he instead going to talk about white oppression. Considering how the devs are very historical with these games, I am sure it's totally all purple hair progressivism vs common sense.![]()
Or maybe we all take a chill pill and not get out pitchforks before even seeing what the f is happening?As I said looking at the contextless image that would be my guess why some people would be upset.
I'm not as easily able to spot 13th century Granadan merchant garb as some others, it seems. Probably doesn't help that that guy appears sub-saharan while the Moors were generally Arab/North African.
It has not been delisted and is still up for preorder there, so take that for what it's worth.I don't see how refuting the Saudi-based rumor would spoil the plot at all. It's a yes or no, I thought?
Or maybe we all take a chill pill and not get out pitchforks before even seeing what the f is happening?
Some random saying game will be banned in Saudi Arabia (still up for sale) because of unstoppable cutscenes (take your pick here) is not a reason to go all crazy. And now folks are throwing everything in their "woke hunting".
What's more likely from this developer, the character or a scene making sense in the context of the game or the dev all of a sudden going woke?
Come on, Occam's razor and all that jazz!
I'm not sure if Grummz has ever been smart in his entire life (and no, I'm sorry but I don't think that being *occasionally* on the same side of the culture war give him a free pass for coming off as a dimwit more often than not), but yeah, Vavra has a track record that gives him credibility on the point of not "selling out to the other team".Looked this up on Twatter and saw this. Grummz is smart not to stoke the flames on this one.
I'm just going to continue to clap Theresa's cheeks in the sequel. Hopefully there's options to convince her to bring along a friend this time as well.Vavra didn't suddenly transition to non-binary and make KCD2 about their therapy sessions and household trauma. Give me a break.
He has a good track record and didn't kowtow to keyboard warriors last time around. His statement now is consistent with that attitude. Wait until there's something to actually be offended about in the game's content.
I'm open to any and all information. I really want to support this game. KCD was amazing.It has not been delisted and is still up for preorder there, so take that for what it's worth.
?Gotta say, Vavra and his studio are doing a decent job at slowing down the hype train in the last weeks before launch.
Ahh good to know. Looking at my 2025 list, it would be a shame if you guys cant play even half of it because of the hate brigade. Fight the powah!If the game is woke, then he don't have balls, he simply bended to the same people tried to cancel him. I think people like you are not conscious the real anti woke thing is a 2024 thing. For the most games releasing this year and even 2026 is too much late to make big changes.
Why would you ever "have to have gay sex" in a Daniel Vavra game, for Christ's sake?If you don't have to have gay sex, then just say you do not have to have gay sex. That entire quote was beating around the bush personified.
Why would you ever "have to have gay sex" in a Daniel Vavra game, for Christ's sake?
Are you people being retarded on purpose or what?
Maybe Henry goes to the state pen?
Agree with all that.Also, do you realize that a game or movie having references or visual representation of something isn't necessarily an ENDORSEMENT of that same thing?
You could have ten different "gay sex" scenes all with very different vibes and implications. One could be romantic and vaguely allusive; the other pornographic and explicit; one could be framed to make the two characters having sex come off as disgusting and morally deplorable; OR -being this a medieval setting- you could have a scene of two individuals being killed because found out at having gay sex.
And so on.
It's not like the whole game is going to be woke, that's not happening and you can't hide that in long gameplays as part of previews. A lot of people seem to be upset that Vavra never denied the "controversial" content in his formal responses, which means it is going to be present in the game. In what form - we'll have to wait and see. People with zero tolerance for that stuff will be upset, my tolerance is higher and I have faith in the studio so I'm still planning to play it day one.?
Most previews of the game were borderline ecstatic about what they tried of it far and this recent concern about Warhorse "going woke" seems to be just some of you being completely mental.
A lot of people benefit from the drama...video, clicks, tweets etc....None of them actually cares for the game, they want their 1 cent per clickThis all seems like unnecessary drama. A lot of people would benefit from calming down.
As I said looking at the contextless image that would be my guess why some people would be upset.
I'm not as easily able to spot 13th century Granadan merchant garb as some others, it seems. Probably doesn't help that that guy appears sub-saharan while the Moors were generally Arab/North African.