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Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance |OT| Sora is Everyone in Every Dimension
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MaverickHunterAsh
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BbS is definitely worth it -- it's one of the best games in the series.
Gameplay-wise, 358/2 Days is the second-worst in the series (worst is Chain of Memories), but I found the story more than compelling enough to deal with it and play through the entire game. If the part of the story involving Roxas and Organization XIII interests you at all, you should play it. It's quite sad, but it's a good story.
Re:coded is just the opposite. The story is basically throwaway and only the end advances things at all, but gameplay-wise it's actually very fun. It has one of my favorite character-building/level up systems in the series.
Do I really have tofight Sora's final boss and Riku's two final bosses if I missed one of the questions the first time around and want to watch the secret ending?
No. It's a silly, gimmicky way to screw people out of the secret ending, so just hit up YouTube.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
So yeah, I picked up the game and I'm wondering how important the story is and how relevant is this game to the main story? Basically the relevant ones I know are BBS->KH1->KH2.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Probably comparable to Chain of Memories in relevance in that it sets up stuff for the next numbered game.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
It's closer to a main chapter (KH/KH II/BbS) than a side chapter/interquel (CoM/358/Re:coded), but what Box of Bunnies said is pretty much right on.
No. It's a silly, gimmicky way to screw people out of the secret ending, so just hit up YouTube.
Nah. I need to earn it.
I know that feel. I managed to beat Sora's final boss at level 30 lol, but i'm getting slaughtered with Riku.
I have 4 trophies, but not sure if completing the game on proud and getting the 2 trophies from clearing it will, push me over that edge to get it.
So i've been flowmotion grinding enemies while I get XP
I know that feel. I managed to beat Sora's final boss at level 30 lol, but i'm getting slaughtered with Riku.
I have 4 trophies, but not sure if completing the game on proud and getting the 2 trophies from clearing it will, push me over that edge to get it.
So i've been flowmotion grinding enemies while I get XP
I went back and collected all the treasures with both characters. When that was over, I was strong enough to beat all the bosses easily, and had also cleared another trophy,
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Yeah, I understand... normally I feel that way too, but fulfilling all the gameplay-based prerequisites (like getting enough trophies) only to get get screwed out of the ending for not answering three random questions correctly is just silly to me. I looked up the answers I needed to choose beforehand so I wouldn't have to beat the final bosses twice, but I definitely wouldn't YouTube the secret ending in favor of fulfilling the gameplay prerequisites.
I finished the game (proud, ~33hours) and the story really got weirder than I ever thought it would get... I love it! Still need some time to digest the story and put all the pieces together. Funnily enough, it looks like even Nomura can't keep track of all the details as there's at least an error in Days' chronicles
But maybe it's just a translation error. Could anyone with a Japanese copy check this out? Too bad the ending is such a let down.
I guess we will have to wait for KHIII for the plot to really advance. The secret ending was, compared to both BBS's and even BBSFM+'s, really lame as they didn't reveal anything we didn't already know/guess.
This game also made me kind of like Sora a bit more, specifically in the final word when
, though I'm still not really a fan of his.
As for the actual game, I liked it more than BBS and Re:Coded.
First the positives:
-BIG environments and flowmotion really made the game fun; they have to bring this to KH3. There's simply no going back to boring walking/running after being able to jump from wall to wall, swirl around poles, etc. all at blazing fast spees.
-Combat; as fun as ever, but now even crazier due to flowmotion.
-Reality shifts; I thought they would be just some lame gimmick, but I really liked them, except forh the buble one.
-FlickRush; I have only played a little, but it seems really fun.
-Diving; too bad they recycled some of the stages.
-Music
-Voice acting: good for the most part, though there's a really akwardly acted out line in the ending:
-Sora's Link attacks: Can be quite fun, think of them as D-links from BBS
Meh:
-Some abilities are tied to spirits and you have to have them in your party (limited to 3 slots) to take advantage of them; it didn't really bother me, since it wasn't that hard to rack up LP points for newly created spirits.
-Graphics: frame drops galore and they were kind of jaggy at first (playing on an XL) but then the battles got so busy that it only really bothered me in some cutscenes. I know it's a compromise for the huge areas, so I won't complain too much.
-Drop System: can be confusing at first, but I got used to it quickly. It's nice that you can buff your characters by spending drop points and if you don't like the system, you can use cheap Drop-me-nots.
The bad Stuff:
-The camera is way too close; the battles are hectic and the environments huge, so it's really easy to get disoriented.
-Flowmotion is too easy to abuse, so it gets kind of boring later on and the level design suffers from it; instead of doing any actual platforming and using gimmicks you can just wall kick everywhere. They should have really made it either harder to use or designed the environments to be more demanding; tighter button timing or less kickable and more damage dealing spots.
-No command melding from Re:Coded; I hope they bring it, along with the command board, back for KHIII.
-Boring character progression system compared to Re:Coded and Days.
-Loading; better than BBS though still annoying.
-Only 2 save files
-Riku's command styles suck
EDIT: Added some more comments
''It was only once Axel appeared that he and Roxas were able to bring back her by force.'' Expect it was all Axel's doing, Roxas just stood there and only managed to yell a few words because he could not believe his friends were fighting. Link.
First, I'm not a fan of Lea getting a Key Blade, he had his weapon already and that means Roxas won't get to play any major role in KHIII since the 7th guardian of light will probably be Ven. Second, I really wish Xenahort managed to unite his 13 vessels to move the story forward and I bet that was in the original ending that Disney made Nomura rewrite because it was too dark.
This game also made me kind of like Sora a bit more, specifically in the final word when
he talks to Roxas
As for the actual game, I liked it more than BBS and Re:Coded.
First the positives:
-BIG environments and flowmotion really made the game fun; they have to bring this to KH3. There's simply no going back to boring walking/running after being able to jump from wall to wall, swirl around poles, etc. all at blazing fast spees.
-Combat; as fun as ever, but now even crazier due to flowmotion.
-Reality shifts; I thought they would be just some lame gimmick, but I really liked them, except forh the buble one.
-FlickRush; I have only played a little, but it seems really fun.
-Diving; too bad they recycled some of the stages.
-Music
-Voice acting: good for the most part, though there's a really akwardly acted out line in the ending:
''Riku, what do you wish for?'' Instead of saying ''More questions...'' in a pensive voice he says ''More Questions.'' in a normal voice, so for a moment you think that's his answer Link
Meh:
-Some abilities are tied to spirits and you have to have them in your party (limited to 3 slots) to take advantage of them; it didn't really bother me, since it wasn't that hard to rack up LP points for newly created spirits.
-Graphics: frame drops galore and they were kind of jaggy at first (playing on an XL) but then the battles got so busy that it only really bothered me in some cutscenes. I know it's a compromise for the huge areas, so I won't complain too much.
-Drop System: can be confusing at first, but I got used to it quickly. It's nice that you can buff your characters by spending drop points and if you don't like the system, you can use cheap Drop-me-nots.
The bad Stuff:
-The camera is way too close; the battles are hectic and the environments huge, so it's really easy to get disoriented.
-Flowmotion is too easy to abuse, so it gets kind of boring later on and the level design suffers from it; instead of doing any actual platforming and using gimmicks you can just wall kick everywhere. They should have really made it either harder to use or designed the environments to be more demanding; tighter button timing or less kickable and more damage dealing spots.
-No command melding from Re:Coded; I hope they bring it, along with the command board, back for KHIII.
-Boring character progression system compared to Re:Coded and Days.
-Loading; better than BBS though still annoying.
-Only 2 save files
-Riku's command styles suck
EDIT: Added some more comments
clay_ghost
Member
AHHh, i missed unlocking the secret ending for the 2nd time because i miss the 1st letter in the end credit again
Too lazy to fight all the bosses again............
Too lazy to fight all the bosses again............
So I just beat the game and am watching the rest of the credits, I did the
EDIT: Now it's asking me
dive thing through the credits and got the full message "Secret Message Unlocked," does that mean I'm getting the secret ending after this?
EDIT: Now it's asking me
if I want to "save clear data"?! What the fuck does that mean and why is it phrased so awkwardly that I think it's a bad translation and is going to wipe my save? :/
If you save ''clear data'' you won't lose any of your progress, the game will simply take note that you cleared the game and unlock a few things, you will also be able to start a new game+ and carry over some things from your old playthrough.
Napalm_Frank
Member
So, KH2 is the stupidest one still?
Sure. It was longer and it doesn't have the excuse of being a filler dream game. Lolz.
Hahaha.
edit: It's starting to sink in that BbS may have been a one-time deal, even if it'd be kind of hard to screw up KH3 after all this nonsense.
RPGCrazied
Member
Hope to start playing within the next week. Praying to New Egg to ship my 3DS XL early.
elazullizard
Neo Member
Ok, so this is weird... In Sora's Reports section it has scores for various dives, right? I have an entry for the "Ending" dive, and I'm barely at
. Also, for a few posts above, the youtube links show up through the spoiler tags, so you may want to check that out.
Prankster's Paradise
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Just finished the game. There were some great boss fights towards the end. I screwed up on getting the secret message, though.
Overall, I had a great time with the game. The story definitely gets a bit weird towards the end, but it's really just meeting my expectations for a Kingdom Hearts story.
Overall, I had a great time with the game. The story definitely gets a bit weird towards the end, but it's really just meeting my expectations for a Kingdom Hearts story.
Fixed! Sorry about that.
This seems to be related to a bug with the special portals where after completing one with Riku it will say that it was completed by Sora and Sora's version of that portal will no longer be available or vice versa. It seems to be cause by one of the flashbacks in the beginning of the game.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Same thing happened to me right after I did my first dive into Traverse Town. I think it's a minor glitch.
thetechkid
Member
So I finished
and it seemed way too easy. Anyways I'm taking a break from the story to work up my spirits and I'm curious(I know it's been asked before) which effects/abilities stay when you remove them from your party.
Prankster's Paradise
WrenchNinja
Member
The ones that don't have a Dream Eater symbol next to them. So stuff like Combo Plus, Leaf Bracer, Once More, Second Chance, etc.
Lea references a line he says as Axel, which I think was in Chain of Memories and 358/2 Days. He tends to get the worst jobs (Spying and slowly assassinating the Organization members at Castle Oblivion, retrieving Xion, tasked with destroying Roxas). I don't know why the camera focused on the DTD board. He was talking about retrieving the other Organization members and using the corridors of darkness, maybe it was him thinking of how all the stupid stuff that happened to him was because of Xehanort wanting to get to the Door to Darkness and reach Kingdom Hearts.
Vermillion
Banned
Sora's links are cooler, stronger and more numerous than Riku's. Funny, I expected pretty much the opposite.
Yeah, for the most part I didn't even bother using Riku's style changes.
Once I found which dual-link combination gave me the Bladestorm command style, there was no need to ever bother using anything else or doing single links either. Really awful system compared to Sora, where it's at least kinda fun to interact with each Dream Eater in a more personal way.
I used
Wavesurfer
Rising Wing
Commantis
Sora's links are undoubtedly superior, not only do they give you invincibility they also make for some really funny situations. Sora's final Boss spoilers ahead
using Paw Groove to dance while Xenmas is trying to slash/blast you with it's lasers is a hilarious sight
Bladecharge (damn, I even messed up the name, I blame how the game doesn't change your command UI!) was great for most of Riku's final few bosses at the end. The reach is long, and timing it right totally fucks the bosses up especially those who get interrupted with injury frames. Sogood.gif
You should read what they said about flowmotion in the Iwata Asks. They actually brought that topic up lol
Ah, good idea!
I see, when I tried it midgame it seemed that Riku still got too close and I was easily injured, so then I didn't bother with it anymore. I guess I should have stuck with it some more. As for Riku's last few bosses, I devised a really effective (read cheap) strateg;y
I simply spammed projectiles (Triple Plasma, Balonga and Dark Firaga) from afar while rolling like crazy
Thanks for reminding me, I totally forgot about the IA.
EDIT: I read it and it seems Nomura and co. are really pleased with the current implementation of flowmotion... this doesn't really give me much hope for any major refinement in KH3.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I know it's way late, but I wrote a review for this game for anyone who'd like to see:
http://scraftydevil.tumblr.com/
Hopefully it will convince any fence-sitters to cave and buy this wonderful, awesome game.
http://scraftydevil.tumblr.com/
Hopefully it will convince any fence-sitters to cave and buy this wonderful, awesome game.
If we're talking EU club nintendo, then I can tell you that the code was supposed to be in the box. So you probably got screwed over there.
mugurumakensei
Member
Looks wonderful on the larger screen. For some reason, the controls are more responsive too but that could be a placebo effect.
Wolf Akela
Member
Just beat the game. 27 hours Proud Mode. Didn't bother to grind nor search for chests.
. The boss fights aren't even hard. They just take forever. Dark Splicer sucks against the last bosses. It's pretty much suicide without Second Chance.
I really want to start my Lv1 Critical Mode which is when I'll put serious effort, but I also want a bit of a headstart. I need to train some DEs to take and preferably star level. I can get 40,000 munny by selling everything, so whatever's in the shop is covered. I'm planning to take Frootz Kat, Ryu Dragon and Tyranto Rex. They'll give me the following passives:
5/5 Attack Haste
5/5 Magic Haste
5/5 Attack Boost
2/5 Magic Boost
2/5 Defense Boost
2/3 Reload Boost
4/5 HP Boost
2/5 Fire Screen
1/3 Thunder Boost
1/3 Fire Boost
1/3 Support Boost
The ever important Second Chance and Once More are covered by R&R Seal and Tyranto Rex.
Back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back Riku boss fights lol
I really want to start my Lv1 Critical Mode which is when I'll put serious effort, but I also want a bit of a headstart. I need to train some DEs to take and preferably star level. I can get 40,000 munny by selling everything, so whatever's in the shop is covered. I'm planning to take Frootz Kat, Ryu Dragon and Tyranto Rex. They'll give me the following passives:
5/5 Attack Haste
5/5 Magic Haste
5/5 Attack Boost
2/5 Magic Boost
2/5 Defense Boost
2/3 Reload Boost
4/5 HP Boost
2/5 Fire Screen
1/3 Thunder Boost
1/3 Fire Boost
1/3 Support Boost
The ever important Second Chance and Once More are covered by R&R Seal and Tyranto Rex.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
Those should have codes as well.
Angel Abaddon
Member
And after 33 hours, I'm done. Definitely improved over my initial impression, although I never really got into the Dream Eater system throughout.
. I think my main issue was playing through BbS the week before release and comparing DDD to that the whole time, and they definitely struck near enough perfectly on everything in BbS, while DDD feels a bit of a step backwards.
Loved the confusing mess of a story though, although they made the same mistake they've made before by loading the entire thing into the last hour or so
Meccanical
Member
Well you have to look at the dev time for these titles.
BBS: 4+ years in the making
3D: 1 year.
Angel Abaddon
Member
Its a fair enough point. My main issue though was how fiddly the Dream Eater system was compared to how streamlined Fusion felt. That and I never got behind the Drop system, but I think that's a general issue a large majority have.
Okay so uhh, I'm in the Grid right now with Sora and wtf. Issupposed to be this difficult? I've been at it for about half an hour and have had no luck winning the fightRitzler/Tron
That fight is extremely easy if you have Counter Rush
I do, and that's one of the main skills I've been using.