KennyLinder
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Kirby's Epic Yarn |OT| The Grass Feels Like...Pants
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The Dutch Slayer
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......................................................KennyLinder said:
(if true, retailers are not always right but a lot of times its an indication)Emonga said:
I must come from a rare breed that believes that in a 2d platformer, first and foremost the challenge should lie in the levels. Not in collecting coins, beads, stars, etc. That's what made all the NES and SNES Mario games that great. Collecting coins didn't matter so much as your platforming skills.
I really like the art style of this game but unfortunately I will not get it until it becomes real cheap due to the lack of any difficulty reported. I know the first couple levels should be easy and I'm not looking for an insanely challenging platformer like Super Meat Boy but I do want to be challenged by the levels every once in a while. Challenges suck when they become collectathons.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
My god, I just got the game. Really pretty, and nice music so far. It's easy, but fun.
I need a gif when Kirby does Jumping Rope idle animation!
I need a gif when Kirby does Jumping Rope idle animation!
Technically the challenge isn't really a collectathon. It's more of a shmup: The less you get hit, the better.YagizY said:
There's nothing satisfying than getting Gold on all stages and then unlocking the special bonus stage in the area. Speaking of which...
This is a tough one because, for one, I agree with you! This game is really solid. People coming expecting a challenge by simply breezing through the levels will be disappointed, but people who actually try to find all three items (it's no different from 8 red coins and the 5 flowers from Yoshi's Island, really) will find where the real depth of the game is. And yes as YagizY prooves, not everyone will be satisfied, mainly because GAF has come to hype this up and everyone will merely see this is nothing more than a superficial kiddy game, which, in reality, all Kirby games sorta pose to be (at first). But if they took the time to not get hit, they will see the cleaverness in the level design (no collision damage suddenly becomes "reasonable"!), as there is a cdertain flow that this game captures that has been missing since Kirby's Adventure.zigg said:
I like it simply because how off-beat it is from the traditional "suck up and absorb powers" formula which didn't debut until Adventure. For the longest time people where looking for the second coming of Super Star (which manifested itself already), and expected the next installment to be more but bigger/better (the canceled GC/Wii Kirby game?).
Overall, I guess it's really close to Kirby's Adventure.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
Member
Have to say, I'm on the last world, and there's still no challenge to speak of. Aside from a couple auto scrolling stages, the game throws so many beads at you that Gold medals are easy on your first try. Finding all three treasures is also likely on your first try in a stage, as they are not very well hidden. This is not the game to go to for a challenge of any sort......you have to be content with soaking in the visuals, the great music, the "charm" (GAF should have a drinking game for every time that word's used).
StevePharma
Member
NoE, suck my dick. March, really???? Does this need epic translation skills or what? Strategic release? In March?
Whatever, just don't do this for Donkey Kong please.
Whatever, just don't do this for Donkey Kong please.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
StevePharma said:
I'm pretty sure DK is locked in for a December release, but, you know PAL and all...
Anywho, my import from the states arrived and I'm really loving the game. I like that while it's a platformer, it's more focused on scores and medals and not intricate jumps and lives. I quite like that you cant die. It's clearly aimed for the younger crowd and people not very good at games, but it's a really relaxing game to play.
Well worth the import.
Granger Danger
Member
The rerelease of Super Mario All-Stars is the culprit. They don't want to release three 2D platformers at the same time, so they pushed Kirby to March so that there are only two left (Mario All-Stars and DKCR).StevePharma said:
Ok...Frigid Fjords. What the hell am I doing wrong? I cannot gold medal this level to save my life.
I feel like there's some sort of special route that I'm missing that would somehow make this incredibly easy, but I've done the level enough times now that I kind of doubt that. It doesn't help that I'm rushing to finish first and the goddamn Waddle Dees go just slowly enough to provide a huge nuisance. Every other level feels like getting the gold is at least fairly easily manageable after an attempt or two, but this one has thwarted me way longer than it should have.
I feel like there's some sort of special route that I'm missing that would somehow make this incredibly easy, but I've done the level enough times now that I kind of doubt that. It doesn't help that I'm rushing to finish first and the goddamn Waddle Dees go just slowly enough to provide a huge nuisance. Every other level feels like getting the gold is at least fairly easily manageable after an attempt or two, but this one has thwarted me way longer than it should have.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
Member
As I said, the game has no challenge for golds except a couple auto scrolling levels.....I think frigid fjords is one of the ones that took me a few times to gold. You basically have to memorize an exact path through the level to maximize beads.....and one part in particuar you may have missed is right after the cave, there is a boost and three jutting rock platforms...when you hit the boost, DON'T jump.....run into the rock platforms and you'll trigger a crapload of big orange beads........keep at it, it's just a matter of finding the line to take and executing perfectly....oh, and jump on waddle dees to get a bead too.
I did manage to finally snag the gold...but only thanks to hitting the 500-bead bonus panel at the end of the level, so it feels like kind of an empty victory.
Like I said, I know most of the paths for it (as well as that line of orange beads), the problem with that was with the timing of the line I took through the level, I could never just collect all of those because one of the Waddle Dees was always right there for me to ram into if I don't avoid him. There are several points where that seems to happen.
Anyway, with that done, just a few more treasures and gold medals to nab, as well as the rest of the apartment tenant challenges. I'm going to feel a little sad about totally clearing this game in only a week, but it's done a great job of keeping me sane and entertained while my internet service was down. Thanks, Kirby.
Like I said, I know most of the paths for it (as well as that line of orange beads), the problem with that was with the timing of the line I took through the level, I could never just collect all of those because one of the Waddle Dees was always right there for me to ram into if I don't avoid him. There are several points where that seems to happen.
Anyway, with that done, just a few more treasures and gold medals to nab, as well as the rest of the apartment tenant challenges. I'm going to feel a little sad about totally clearing this game in only a week, but it's done a great job of keeping me sane and entertained while my internet service was down. Thanks, Kirby.
jamesinclair
Banned
The game is easy, but it isnt THAAAAT easy. Ive fallen into a few pits.
Also, the team needs to start work on Yoshis Story 2, which will be the cutest game ever made.
Also, the team needs to start work on Yoshis Story 2, which will be the cutest game ever made.
It seems Miyamoto doesn't feel like making another Yoshi's Island, though, given the rush of Mario games he's developed. I would rather he and his team focus on that new character IP, while newer development teams take up the mantle. Epic Yarn works because it's a fresh take on the series, even though it technically wasn't a Kirby game to begin with. But this is exactly what we need (as opposed to Other M, which was made by the same team, but didn't feel as Metroid as other games in the franchise).Nabs said:
Similarly, I await Retro's results with this new DKC game. It's quite obvious they did a lot of franchise distilling.
tl;dr - Newer teams are better with old IPs, because of newer concepts and nostalgia goggles from fresh blood.
A Link to the Past
Banned
It looks like Good-Feel might become Nintendo's platform game developer. They did excellently with capturing Wario and Kirby's universes, I'd love to see what they can do with other properties.
Freezie KO
Banned
Finally up to the last World. Man, so much love went into this game. The little animations after you lay down a level patch are like their own reward. All the transformations diversify the style. I can't believe I'm still seeing new ones into the sixth World. The apartment tenants add some new ways to appreciate the level design. I particularly enjoy racing Mara since that's how I play through a lot of conventional Kirby stages anyway.
The challenge isn't even average, but I've had to restart a few times to get the Gold Medals or to find a treasure. It's a leisurely stroll and I wouldn't want every game to be this easy, but I'm loving it.
The challenge isn't even average, but I've had to restart a few times to get the Gold Medals or to find a treasure. It's a leisurely stroll and I wouldn't want every game to be this easy, but I'm loving it.
The shmup hidden level and the Metaknight battle were very well done.
Granger Danger
Member
That's my favorite part of the game too. Are there any more games that are like this? Sort of a racing/platformer hybrid. I really enjoy that.Freezie KO said:
Freezie KO
Banned
Iwata Asks English translation. Old?
http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/kirbysepicyarn/vol1_page1.jsp
Sonic?
Just kidding. Sonic is dead.
Don't propagate these lies.
http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/kirbysepicyarn/vol1_page1.jsp
Emonga said:
Sonic?
Just kidding. Sonic is dead.
plufim said:
Don't propagate these lies.
nincompoop
Banned
WRONGplufim said:
Also, while the recent Star Fox games have flopped I'm pretty sure that Star Fox Adventures sold really well. Maybe Nintendo should just forget about SF as a rail shooter and buy Rare back from MS to develop SFA2!
Mega Man's Electric Sheep said:Have to say, I'm on the last world, and there's still no challenge to speak of. Aside from a couple auto scrolling stages, the game throws so many beads at you that Gold medals are easy on your first try. Finding all three treasures is also likely on your first try in a stage, as they are not very well hidden. This is not the game to go to for a challenge of any sort......you have to be content with soaking in the visuals, the great music, the "charm" (GAF should have a drinking game for every time that word's used).
yeah
I think i'm done with this game. i hope some other game uses this style but includes good gameplay with a challenge. Next time *shrug*. Time to trade-in.
ToyMachine228
Member
I am interested in both this and Metroid but don't feel compelled to buy either one. Maybe someday when there's a sale or when I don't have anything else to play...
TheUnknownForce
Member
ToyMachine228 said:
Based on how game releases are, it might be hard for there to be many breaks in new games. Not to mention that Nintendo is more likely to stop production of a game than let it drop below $30.
Souldriver
Member
I don't see how YI DS on itself is a bad game. Not that it is be-all end-all proof, but the gamerankings/metacritic ranking for the game is 80/81. By no account a bad game... People just can't seem to judge a game on itself without comparing it to other games, in this case the original Yoshi's Island.Boney said:
civilstrife
Member
I wont defend this game too much, but isn't the whole point of the Kirby franchise to be an easier Mario? What were people expecting?
nincompoop
Banned
I was expecting it to be like Wario Land Shake, where the main game is easy and the difficulty comes from the game's extra content. But in KEY, you almost have to purposely get hit or avoid collecting beads to not get gold on a stage, the "hidden" treasure chests are barely even hidden, and the extra hotel tenant missions are a boring waste of time. It's still an enjoyable game, but it failed exactly where Wario Land Shake succeeds, in providing a legitimately challenging experience for experienced gamers while still being accessible for children and new gamers.civilstrife said:
Difficulty is not this game's strong suit, no. One thing I'd say it does do quite well (and this is something that Good-Feel did a decent job on in Wario Land as well) is the way that nearly every level has some sort of focus around a different platforming style or mechanic, even well into the final world. I do, however, wish that they'd actually taken the whole craftworks-into-platforming even farther and included a few more features. Stuff like the pullstrings to bring platforms closer and unzipping towers are awesome but it doesn't feel like there are many variations on that. Why not a level where you lasso a pencil and use it to draw yourself some new platforms, or some more uses for the "thread-unwinding" mechanic a la Capamari, or using scissors to cut up and unravel larger roadblocks? The concept is wonderful but it feels to an extent that they kind of gave up on it after a few neat ideas and just relegated the yarn to art-style only.
I still find it to be a very enjoyable game and I can totally see myself popping it in later to just relax and cruise through a few levels. Nothing wrong with having a low-stress game experience every now and again.
I still find it to be a very enjoyable game and I can totally see myself popping it in later to just relax and cruise through a few levels. Nothing wrong with having a low-stress game experience every now and again.
civilstrife said:
Imo, every other Kirby game was harder than this one. There is "easy" and then there's "zero challenge."
Kirby: Epic Yarn has zero challenge anywhere at anytime. Its appeal seems to be solely from the charming and unique aesthetic it has, since the level design is unfun and provides no compelling obstacles to your advancement (but it's not bland, at least) and the enemies are about as easily avoidable as a turtle running at you at 0.2mph. It took me until world four to even get hit ONCE. Even collecting everything for Gold is just almost offensively easy.
I think certainly I can understand that people still like it (those that don't require a challenge of any kind to have "fun", and just want to 'relax' or something... although I found the lack of challenge more infuriating then relaxing), but it's just not for me. I certainly was shocked by the level of simplicity on display here.
I know people like to troll certain Nintendo games by saying it's for kids, but this is the first time I literally felt like one of their game feels like it's for babies. Kirby: Epic Yarn FEELS like it's for babies, and the only time it doesn't is when you've got a friend with you who is potentially the only thing that can do anything to impede your progress :lol
Nemesis556 said:
6 hours with most things collected
I got hit so many times in the first 2-3 levels. Maybe 5-10 times! I first tested and the spearguys didn't seem to attack so that's not dangerous. But then later, I think I landed on a spear, and then maybe ran into a spear! I lost millions of beads which I then regained by walking over them.
And then I got hit a bunch by the unfair nukes the birds launch at you! It was a really rough battle since it's so hard to aim the cannon precisely with the tilt controls, until I realized that you could give yourself carpal tunnel by spamming the missile launch button for rapidfire nukes.
The voice acting sounds like it's a book narration for really little kids and some of it is unskippable, however, so if anyone ever heard you playing it, they would probably conclude you're a sick person or something.
The art style is cute though. And unlike some games, it actually looks good on my LCDTV. I don't think I've even noticed ugly jaggies or anything.
And then I got hit a bunch by the unfair nukes the birds launch at you! It was a really rough battle since it's so hard to aim the cannon precisely with the tilt controls, until I realized that you could give yourself carpal tunnel by spamming the missile launch button for rapidfire nukes.
The voice acting sounds like it's a book narration for really little kids and some of it is unskippable, however, so if anyone ever heard you playing it, they would probably conclude you're a sick person or something.
The art style is cute though. And unlike some games, it actually looks good on my LCDTV. I don't think I've even noticed ugly jaggies or anything.
nincompoop
Banned
Grab one of the fireball things he sends at you and throw it at him.Big One said:
nincompoop
Banned
How come I didn't unlock a bonus level in Snow Land after beating the boss? I have golds on all the levels and all the treasure chests.
nincompoop
Banned
Thanks, I thought getting gold on the boss would be enough.Haunted said:
abstract alien
Member
Yeah, I pretty much thought of Wario when you said this. As a matter of fact, I think the escape sections of every level are exactly what you may be looking for.Emonga said:
Crazypanda_85
Member
I sold my Wii early this year (sold it because I planned to eventually buy the black console). I usually play my friends' Wii systems but since there are several titles I really want to play coming out (mainly Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn), I decided to go ahead and pre-order the 25th Anniversary Mario Bros. Wii System.
From what I've read from everyone's input and all the major site's reviews, I'm very hyped for KEY. The lack of difficulty doesn't seem to be a big problem. Every game doesn't need a level of difficulty in order to be great, it's mainly left to the actual game mechanics to make a game fun. I love having a mixture of games in my library that provide little to a decent amount of difficulty. Plus, I love the creativity that was pumped into this title
From what I've read from everyone's input and all the major site's reviews, I'm very hyped for KEY. The lack of difficulty doesn't seem to be a big problem. Every game doesn't need a level of difficulty in order to be great, it's mainly left to the actual game mechanics to make a game fun. I love having a mixture of games in my library that provide little to a decent amount of difficulty. Plus, I love the creativity that was pumped into this title