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Kotaku: Firewalk Studios and Concord heads had a 'too good to fail mentality'
Lagspike_exe
Member
How big were they? I find the $400m hard to believe.
Draugoth
Gold Member
No one knows, it was likely somewhere around 50-150m
Saber
Member
Head in the sand? More like head in their own asses.
If anyone wonders why I feel like those people shouldn't be absorbed, thats the reason. Nothing good will come out of projects with people like that.
Also holy cheese, this Hermen might be the worst thing about Sony nowadays.
If anyone wonders why I feel like those people shouldn't be absorbed, thats the reason. Nothing good will come out of projects with people like that.
Also holy cheese, this Hermen might be the worst thing about Sony nowadays.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Toxic positivity almost sounds like giving every kid a trophy that led to creating the most entitled fucking generation ever.
I am sorry but sometimes people have to be told no.
I am sorry but sometimes people have to be told no.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Yeah, I could see that. It does not seems like they spent $100m+ on marketing either. So the $400m is just hard to believe.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
StueyDuck
Member
weren't all the mainstream journos at places like kotaku, blaming the evil bad bigotted gamers for the games failure?
they don't get the right to write articles now about the actual fuckups at the studio, you can't play defense weenies and then now that it's ok to dislike concord, go and actually do journalism.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Too good to fail?
Jeez, the delusion is beyond salvation. Those people truly lived in their fetish
Jeez, the delusion is beyond salvation. Those people truly lived in their fetish
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Thebonehead
Gold Member
diffusionx
Gold Member
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Blood in the water
StueyDuck
Member
just shows they'll quickly bite the hand that feeds if they see dollar signs.
so much for all their activism and pride
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Fortress of Regrets
Member
And all they had was a product too broke to succeed.
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Saturn Dragon
Member
Does anyone know what's the budget of Stellar Blade/Wukong/PhantomBlade0?
Draugoth
Gold Member
Saturn Dragon
Member
Journalism at its peak. Blame everything and everyone.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That sounds familiar . . . the trend tragically continues.
How BioWare's Anthem Went Wrong
It wasn’t even supposed to be called Anthem. Just days before the annual E3 convention in June of 2017, when the storied studio BioWare would reveal its newest game, the plan had been to go with a different title: Beyond. They’d even printed out Beyond T-shirts for the staff.
kotaku.com
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
It must be including the purchase of the studio.
If that's the number Moriarty's heard because it's what's being thrown around internally, the studio will get shut down, and someone's job at PlayStation leadership is forfeit.
Imtjnotu
Member
I need some back story on why this transformer keeps showing up on every concord thread
Quantum253
Gold Member
In the video, it's stated the game was in development before Sony got involved, and when they did, they injected 200M as an initial investment.
When the studio was acquired, Sony injected another 200M (outsourcing work) to get the title where it should be and in the launch window
Saturn Dragon
Member
I thought they were around 90-100.
Haven't played any of them but they all look spectacular. Planning on buying PS5 just for those and Astrobot.
Still trying to understand how on earth this Concord thing looking as ugly as it looked had a budget over 200m... (Now seems it's over 400...)
Draugoth
Gold Member
Wukong is a really good action game, amazing if you are Vietnamise or Chinese.
Haven't tried Stellar blade.
That "mentality" isn't a thing. It is called delusional.
The statment "too big to fail" is when a government props up a business so much that it can take down whole nation or global economies.
I didn't even know this game existed and what I did see of it looked lifeless and sterile. Most people don't even understand what makes a game good anymore. That is why the indsutry is so risk adverse.
Also this person went to college and didn't learn anything. Meanwhile the best develeopers of video games were probably self taugh in the 90s on their parents computers.
The statment "too big to fail" is when a government props up a business so much that it can take down whole nation or global economies.
I didn't even know this game existed and what I did see of it looked lifeless and sterile. Most people don't even understand what makes a game good anymore. That is why the indsutry is so risk adverse.
This is the type of persont that thinks they can design, program and write for video games games and that games are bad because of straight white males who make them and play them. They rely heavily on game engine technology. Don't understand hardware limitations and can't problem solve.
Also this person went to college and didn't learn anything. Meanwhile the best develeopers of video games were probably self taugh in the 90s on their parents computers.
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Hawking Radiation
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Bernardougf
Member
Thats the huge damaging part...
Spyxos
Member
AmuroChan
Member
Half of that was spent on outside studios who helped the game get to a playable state. According to the reporting, the game that Firewalk built was in terrible shape. So outside studios were contracted to basically do most of the legwork after Sony acquired the studio.
ap_puff
Member
If only they had shown game footage earlier on in the process and taken public feedback... I fear Sony is in for some big stumbles due to how they're not showing games early now. Maybe it puts less stress on the dev team so they don't have to prepare a vertical slice, but what's worse: having to do a bit of overtime, or losing your job and having your professional career forever stained because your project leads were being delulu?
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ChorizoPicozo
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semiconscious
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wow! thanks for this...
tkscz
Member
Is this technically the same topic as the other thread?
They REALLY thought this game was going to be the end all be all but the fact that they refused to take any form of criticism, even internally, could only lead to failure. You had a free beta that only reached 2500 people and of those 2500, only 700 returned the buy the game, a problem was clearly there.
They REALLY thought this game was going to be the end all be all but the fact that they refused to take any form of criticism, even internally, could only lead to failure. You had a free beta that only reached 2500 people and of those 2500, only 700 returned the buy the game, a problem was clearly there.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
it was no drugs...it was GaaS
simpatico
Member
Why didn't The Professor teach them how to be successful developers?
You're literally not allowed. If you tell them you don't like a character they're going to ask why. How do you answer that and keep your job?
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