why?
MS cant be that dumb
I think the PSN fiasco is not comparable to this. While Sony completely mishandled the whole situation, I was still able to play all my games when that shit went down. I could not use some of the peripheral features of my videogames console, but I could still play games.
Gah you stoles my avatarI can honestly see them doing the "connection required to start apps and games", but I don't see them being dumb enough to have a cutoff timer.
Really? Come on now. My wife's family lives in a remote town in India and they have stable/reliable DSL internet.
And again... you can't play for a few hours or a few days. Do some other activities. It's not the end of the world if you can't play your Halo or Forza at the exact moment and location you want to ALL the time!
Yep. Imagine this:
1) Halo 5 ships!
2) Anonymous brings down Live that very same day!
3) Everybody who brought Halo 5 home can't play it! For days to weeks!
4) Microsoft exits console business
ENTIRELY plausible.
For fuck's sake, look at what you mentioned, a web browser, of course we expect software and hardware that explicitly needs to use the internet for more than dialing home is going to be useless without the internet. And no device far as I know ALWAYS requires the internet, though it may be crucial depending on what you want to do: tablets still work without the internet, so if you just wanted to play a game or whatever you're probably fine if it wasn't persistently online or the developers were dumb, and same applies to smartphones IIRC.So are a lot of devices in my house, why should a game console be an exception. How useful is an internet browser without internet? It's a new paradigm shift with Durango, it's catching up to the always-connected nature of devices we have all around us.
If you can get a normal setup for it (TV, electricity, controllers) then why should you be barred due to an arbitrary internet requirement? I believe a lot do enjoy local multiplayer quite a bit too.If you are considering the portable aspects of a console, you should consider portable game console. Each console specializes and it just turns out Durango is for an always-connected home. Soldiers unfortunately do not fall under that category due to their inconsistent connection/locale.
So are a lot of devices in my house, why should a game console be an exception. How useful is an internet browser without internet? It's a new paradigm shift with Durango, it's catching up to the always-connected nature of devices we have all around us.
Aside from the fact that I have a library of 50+ games installed on my harddrive that will launch with a simple click. No internet required.
..Why am I even responding to this guy.
How big of a market is that? If they had a PS1, they undoubtedly had a PS2 and perhaps even a PS3 or 360.
I can't imagine there any many people who had a PS1 but didn't buy any consoles in between.
I think its a good thing for companies to force features that push people out of the stone age
If they really do live in India, then I don't see how even they wouldn't think this is a horrible idea. I don't think infrastructure is good enough in North America, and it sure as hell isn't in India, especially with the popularity of stick Internet solutions there.Really? Come on now. My wife's family lives in a remote town in India and they have stable/reliable DSL internet.
And again... you can't play for a few hours or a few days. Do some other activities. It's not the end of the world if you can't play your Halo or Forza at the exact moment and location you want to ALL the time!
and what does 'used games not blocked "per se" ' mean?
I'm starting to think people are just coming up with things to make this sound like the anti Christ of gaming.
Does anybody really think they'll completely eliminate the consumer side that doesn't connect their system?
That was a mistake, though... not by design. They apologized for it. They gave away free stuff for it. Listen, if the Next XBox is going to be FREE in exchange for limiting play time, then sure, but otherwise.
I wonder, have you ever had your electricity go out in your house? Like, say, for 3 or 4 days during a storm? Do you see it as "just a time to get back to the basics, no heat, no food" or do you get frustrated as all hell?
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ALSO, I am not even against always online or always online DRM shit. I just need to know what the benefit is for the consumer. Microsoft: just tell me what the benefit is, then I'll be okay with it.
How the fuck is playing a game without being online the stone age?
Are Blu-Ray movies the stone age now?
Should my Kindle have to be online before I can read a book? Should my iPod have to be online before I can listen to a song?
Are you trolling?
Right just like everyone here predicted Kinect would be an epic fail and ended up looking ridiculous and completely out of touch with reality.
This reminds me of all the talk in 2000/2001 about how Xbox 1 was making a huge mistake not including a dial-up modem like PS2 and Dreamcast and instead expecting everyone who bought Xbox to have broadband connections.
I'm already at the point where if my Internet is down I'm not turning on my Xbox 360. Without Internet access all of the video apps are worthless, no multiplayer, no party chat, no access to my cloud saves which is essential to me because I own multiple Xboxes, no ability to buy content, worry of achievements/saves not syncing, etc. So as far as I'm concerned Xbox 360 is already a system that requires online access to be useable.
Why should I think about others again? So I can feign outrage?
My connection is fine and my Xbox is connected 100% of the time.
Helllll no. I can assure you most if not all of your friends had a PS1, and not all had a 360/PS3. The thing is, it's time for that demographics to
- Be cashed in for nostalgia. The PS-startup sound at the PS4 conference and the promotionak videos before the unveiling show us that Sony is aiming to that.
- Be reabsorbed. Many of those people already have a stable job and could be dissuaded by the thought of a games machine again, that of course is an enterteiment device.
- Be used. The social network boom is the best advertising and medium to get relevance.
I think those are the strategies Sony is using, along with those for the usual hardcore gamer, of course.
MS is aiming moms and dads and cool kids and that unexistant niche called the wii gamer.
Yep - and that's something Anonymous would probably do, just on the principle of the matter. Nobody should be defending this required connection BS. It makes absolutely no sense, other than MS trying desperately to limit piracy. That's the only logical conclusion I can come to.
Do you have clarification for what that first thing means? Would online only be required the first time you put in a game?
I'd be fine with that.
Do you know if this pertains to the PS4? Are they also planning to implement this?
You can edit your post but not your humanity!
Ahh thanks Sammy.
The current speculation is that the next Xbox would block used games, but authorized resellers like GameStop would be allowed to unlock used games in exchange for a fee to Microsoft. This would keep retailers in the loop, but would cutoff casual game trading or selling used games through eBay and Craigslist.
Uhh...that's what all these rumors are saying.
So are a lot of devices in my house, why should a game console be an exception. How useful is an internet browser without internet? It's a new paradigm shift with Durango, it's catching up to the always-connected nature of devices we have all around us.
So you don't play single player at all?
The current speculation is that the next Xbox would block used games, but authorized resellers like GameStop would be allowed to unlock used games in exchange for a fee to Microsoft. This would keep retailers in the loop, but would cutoff casual game trading or selling used games through eBay and Craigslist.
Ads. Ads as far as the eye can see.You can smell the ton of microtransactions in games a mile off with this rumour, sigh.
And when my toaster breaks down I just take that as motivation to go outside and get some sun. Thanks Toaster! You're the best!What daft revelation comes next... Toaster requires bread to make toast
Hubris porn? Sounds about right ;PFrom Wikipedia:
Hubris (pron.: /ˈhjuːbrɪs/)
Peter Moore "leaked" this info to kotaku.
If it is true, we are missing a huge detail. & I'm i guessing dev. kits had to be online.
Yeah, so sick of the rumor mill bullshit. While it does not bode well, I am just going to take my grain of salt and wait for things to be written in stone by the official reveal.
Right just like everyone here predicted Kinect would be an epic fail and ended up looking ridiculous and completely out of touch with reality.
This reminds me of all the talk in 2000/2001 about how Xbox 1 was making a huge mistake not including a dial-up modem like PS2 and Dreamcast and instead expecting everyone who bought Xbox to have broadband connections.
I'm already at the point where if my Internet is down I'm not turning on my Xbox 360. Without Internet access all of the video apps are worthless, no multiplayer, no party chat, no access to my cloud saves which is essential to me because I own multiple Xboxes, no ability to buy content, worry of achievements/saves not syncing, etc. So as far as I'm concerned Xbox 360 is already a system that requires online access to be useable.
Of course I do. Why would I disable my internet connection in order to play Bioshock Infinite on my PC?