Kotaku's Heather Alexandra gives example of what coined the term 'sjw'
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why does this even matter? Asshole is an asshole XD
Same goes for him^^
Funny enough prime sale is still going and he is streaming XD
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Dee Dah Dave
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SJW's seem like the 21st Century version of the hippies from the 60's and 70's. Most probably mean well but are ultimately useless and achieve nothing, with most of their Utopian ideas being unrealistic to say the least. All showing signs of being lobotomised. Only this time from too much Twitter and Facebook, instead of weed and hallucinogenics.
prag16
Banned
Agreed. Especially Walker. He is insufferable.
ilfait
Member
The main problems with "SJW" are that it's kind of an ironic nickname like calling a big guy Tiny; but when Tiny's standing right in front you the irony is immediately apparent. Using SJW around people who haven't had significant exposure to the SJW in its natural habitat can lead to confusion; the irony can be lost, and people are left to question why being "a warrior for social justice" is in any way bad. A similar problem arises when irony is lost on the SJWs themselves. They'll often think that people are attacking them because they fight for social justice, or if they do actually understand the term they can still feign ignorance and say something like, "how is wanting justice in society a bad thing?"
ilfait
Member
It would be wonderful if they didn't achieve anything, but they have and continue to achieve a lot. And while I agree that there are probably a lot of similarities between the modern SJW and the hippy, from what I know of the hippy movement (my knowledge isn't extensive but I think I have a decent sense of it) their methods and most importantly their causes were usually very different. I respect the hippies of the 60's and 70's.
Hotel Security
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Just about covers it. So much of it is about "look at me" stuff. Or it's people starting hollow gestures to show they "support" a cause while not actually accomplishing nothing. The internet loves to pat itself on the back for "raising awareness" for things while doing nothing about them.
But, then again, I would say that like 95% of all stuff posted on social media is self-serving "look at me" stuff. So this is nothing new.
And, DeeDaw said it...they're basically modern day hippies. SJW's are not that educated, they don't know their history, they blame the establishment for all their problems, and they think their way is 100% right and completely blow off (or even attack) anyone who has a different opinion from them. And, like hippies, they accomplish nothing and are idealists who believe in a utopian world that doesn't exist. And, like hippies, the real world will eventually slap them in the face and they'll eventually be too busy trying to hold a job and raise kids to worry about any of it as an adult.
Like with so many things, it's all just cyclical...young people wanting people to think they're smart and that they have all the ideas while not realizing that we've heard it all before.
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Though the real question? Why would TC give this Heather person all this attention? He devotes a whole thread to her. Is he not giving her exactly what she wants? Seems to me that in your effort to use social media to complain about someone on social media, you're just feeding the beast. If you want these people to go away, you ignore them or never, ever read them...and you don't draw attention to them. So, in your efforts to point out the flaws of the internet, you yourself commit a faux pas that makes it worse. Oh, the tangled web we weave...
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michaelius
Banned
This is good old slacktivism - pretending you do something on the internet without actually doing anything.
Has nothing to do with typical SJW stuff.
Also I feel it needs to be pointed out that calling every opponent SJW is on the same level as alt-left calling everyone Nazi and racist
Has nothing to do with typical SJW stuff.
Also I feel it needs to be pointed out that calling every opponent SJW is on the same level as alt-left calling everyone Nazi and racist
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I will have to disagree with your last sentence considering calling somebody a Nazi or racist can potentially cost them their job and livelihood if done maliciously, calling someone an SJW won't.
Far more negative implications with the former than the latter.
Calling someone an SJW is just sticking your tongue out, but to accuse somebody wrongfully of being a Nazi or racist is far more damaging.
Now if you just mean throwing the words around loosely then of course its just labeling at this point.
woigemok
Banned
SJW
Game = TLOU2, HZD and any AAA games by Sony
Movie = Ghostbuster reboot
I loved the way Aonuma trolled these SJW before when he said the protagonist's gender in new Zelda game maybe different from before. The internet blown up with a lot of speculations and then he said " Lol, Link is a guy like before ROFL ". Gaf were having meltdown on that day
Game = TLOU2, HZD and any AAA games by Sony
Movie = Ghostbuster reboot
I loved the way Aonuma trolled these SJW before when he said the protagonist's gender in new Zelda game maybe different from before. The internet blown up with a lot of speculations and then he said " Lol, Link is a guy like before ROFL ". Gaf were having meltdown on that day
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SJW
Game = TLOU2, HZD and any AAA games by Sony
Movie = Ghostbuster reboot
I loved the way Aonuma trolled these SJW before when he said the protagonist's gender in new Zelda game maybe different from before. The internet blown up with a lot of speculations and then he said " Lol, Link is a guy like before ROFL ". Gaf were having meltdown on that day
It lasted for weeks if not months, it was embarrassing.
It was almost like someone stole candy from a baby and they just cried about it Non-Stop.
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Barsinister
Banned
See, I was thinking more of their thoughts as opposed to mine. They think of it like it's a good thing. Like calling one of those school shooters anything other than what they are, a piece of garbage. I don't want him or others thinking of themselves as anything but human garbage. Calling someone a warrior might make them think of themselves as one.
It's Jeff
Banned
Yup. Typed the whole thing up, didn't delete it in shame, clicked post, and then started clearing mantle space for the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Lol!
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Narcissism is the root cause of all this I think.
This is what you get when you mix liberal identity politics with toxic levels of narcissism, it ain't pretty.
It's just staggering to me that these people are such assholes and yet are so convinced they are fully in the right, you never see "maybe I should lighten up a bit" or "ok, we can agree to disagree" or "it's not a big deal" no, instead it's always some variation of "FUCK YOU, NAZI!" and totally throwing a shitfit over every little thing.
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llien
Banned
I don't see how position of the person in OP is inconsistent.
She (he?) wants to do something to support Europeans working at amazon.
Is not ready to sacrifice too much, cancelling twitch altogether (would harm amazon more)
But is ready for a little gesture of not using twitch for one day (still harms amazon, but by a tiny bit)
On top of it, it's not the way I understand the term Social Justice Warrior (for me those are people who are lost in stats and push for equality of outcome in certain fields for certain genders and races), nor do I see why the term is demeaning for the said warriors.
She (he?) wants to do something to support Europeans working at amazon.
Is not ready to sacrifice too much, cancelling twitch altogether (would harm amazon more)
But is ready for a little gesture of not using twitch for one day (still harms amazon, but by a tiny bit)
On top of it, it's not the way I understand the term Social Justice Warrior (for me those are people who are lost in stats and push for equality of outcome in certain fields for certain genders and races), nor do I see why the term is demeaning for the said warriors.
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Social justice Warrior or in German Gutmenschen just do this to make themselves feel better. They do not care about the actual issue but to show how progressive they are. This falls into it. Yeah they can easily boycott their small less than 100 people streams but if actual streamer do it they will lose a lot of subs just for one day. It is not an option for them at all. If you have nothing on the line it is always "great" to protest. Just like this hunger strike in which the participants decided to eat when they are hungry. heather and Austin are such people.
Also really funny when Austin tweetet 18 hours after his first one that he is now streaming.
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strange headache
Banned
Wow man, I'm sure not streaming on Twitch for a day will finally bring Amazon to its knees. Jeff Bezos, the richest man on earth, must be trembling in fear that they add another hashtag... By this point I'm sure that Companies will soon be encouraging that social justice slacktivist mindset for how wholly ineffective it is.
LegendOfKage
Member
For the same reason "Bible-thumper" is demeaning for said thumpers. It's referring to someone as an extreme and negative version of an arguably good thing.
There's nothing wrong with being religious, and there's nothing wrong with advocating equality, but both of those things have the potential to go very wrong. It's all quite subjective, though. Both are also pejorative terms that add nothing to a conversation, which is why I suggest avoiding them. Same with "alt-right" for people who don't identify with that label.
Still, if you didn't understand why the term is demeaning, hopefully that explanation helped at least a little.
Ulysses 31
Member
To me a SJW is a very left leaning individual who want to destroy you financially and socially when they disagree with you and are likely also arm chair activists and have a strong mob mentality.
But Tim Pool describes one well in:
But Tim Pool describes one well in:
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