Lady Gaga JUDAS Hype Thread [It'll be better this time, promise!]

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I am confident JUDAS will be good.

Plus its been reported she sounds like Rihanna in the song (as in island-y accent) so I know I'll love it.
 
Instigator said:
But Gaga fans seems to think everyone is ripping off their precious.
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I don't buy that either. People are just unconsciously being misogynistic; of course women in music aren't creative enough to stand on their own so their ideas have to come from somewhere else. Everyone in the past 10 years is a ripoff of Madonna and Madonna is a ripoff of some lady before her. lol

I'm pretty excited about Gagavision tomorrow; that tweet she sent out hints at it showing off the album cover, which I've been waiting for for a long ass time. It'll deliver.
 
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Teh Hamburglar said:
Alright, but what did she rip off? if you want to go that route I'd argue there isn't one writer today that isn't ripping off Shakespeare.
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She's pretty blatantly ripped off Madonna and Ace of Base and lots of other artists/bands who you can find out about by searching for Gaga comparison videos on YouTube. Parts of Government Hooker are a straight rip from some other song (but Government Hooker is better, so it's OK). That said, a substantial proportion of Gaga's material is original, and even most of the stolen stuff has been given her own special twist.

I'm not entirely sure the Shakespeare analogy works here. By necessity, virtually every (post-Shakespearean) English author's pie has several of Shakespeare's fingers in it; Shakespeare practically rewove the fabric of the English language into patterns of his choosing. On the other hand, singers don't have to borrow melodies and such from prominent artists like Gaga did. But I suppose it's true that when you're working within a tradition, the natural thing to do as an artist is to experiment with the same tools as your influences.
 
Monocle said:
She's pretty blatantly ripped off Madonna and Ace of Base and lots of other artists/bands who you can find out about by searching for Gaga comparison videos on YouTube. Parts of Government Hooker are a straight rip from some other song (but Government Hooker is better, so it's OK). That said, a substantial proportion of Gaga's material is original, and even most of the stolen stuff has been given her own special twist.

I'm not entirely sure the Shakespeare analogy works here. By necessity, virtually every (post-Shakespearean) English author's pie has several of Shakespeare's fingers in it; Shakespeare practically rewove the fabric of the English language into patterns of his choosing. On the other hand, singers don't have to borrow melodies and such from prominent artists like Gaga did. But I suppose it's true that when you're working within a tradition, the natural thing to do as an artist is to experiment with the same tools as your influences.
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I would agree with the Ace of Base rip. It definitely had their stink to it. So far thats the only rip that I would say for certain is 100% non-Gaga. I have listened to the comparison of Madonna/Born This Way and I can't see it aside from the part where Madonna breaks from the melody and name drops. I only heard the clip of Government Hooker from that fashion show so I'll reserve judgement on that one.

Ultimately I find it a non issue. Out of all her hits I think she's demonstrated her own talent to string together a melody and a beat. Couple that with her actual vocal talents (*cough* Britney) and I'm willing to grant her the benefit of the doubt for now.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Yes.
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Then no, it isn't. By saying that you've pinpointed the reason Gaga is an awful role model for Pop music and artists alike - she takes the meaning out of everything. All that symbolism means nothing, her music means nothing. It's manufactured provocation masquerading as something personal and meaningful. All that surface iconography but there's no reasoning. Gaga is not an artist expressing herself, she's riding through the stages of being a pop icon without understanding why any of it matters, the importance of being somebody who can reach so many people. See it as the antithesis of Michael Jackson.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
I would agree with the Ace of Base rip. It definitely had their stink to it. So far thats the only rip that I would say for certain is 100% non-Gaga. I have listened to the comparison of Madonna/Born This Way and I can't see it aside from the part where Madonna breaks from the melody and name drops. I only heard the clip of Government Hooker from that fashion show so I'll reserve judgement on that one.

Ultimately I find it a non issue. Out of all her hits I think she's demonstrated her own talent to string together a melody and a beat. Couple that with her actual vocal talents (*cough* Britney) and I'm willing to grant her the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Pretty much sums up my attitude about her borrowings.
 
PowderedToast said:
Then no, it isn't. By saying that you've pinpointed the reason Gaga is an awful role model for Pop music and artists alike - she takes the meaning out of everything. All that symbolism means nothing, her music means nothing. It's manufactured provocation masquerading as something personal and meaningful. All that surface iconography but there's no reasoning. Gaga is not an artist expressing herself, she's riding through the stages of being a pop icon without understanding why any of it matters, the importance of being somebody who can reach so many people. See it as the antithesis of Michael Jackson.
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Damn you're ignorant.
 
BlazingDarkness said:
Lyrics are dumb
I'm not feelin it, stop takin' yourself so seriously D:
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I don't know how to feel about them. Without music some song lyrics just don't work. I guess I'll just wait and see.
 
PowderedToast said:
Then no, it isn't. By saying that you've pinpointed the reason Gaga is an awful role model for Pop music and artists alike - she takes the meaning out of everything. All that symbolism means nothing, her music means nothing. It's manufactured provocation masquerading as something personal and meaningful. All that surface iconography but there's no reasoning. Gaga is not an artist expressing herself, she's riding through the stages of being a pop icon without understanding why any of it matters, the importance of being somebody who can reach so many people. See it as the antithesis of Michael Jackson.
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seriously? who are you to say she isn't expressing herself, really? i don't think any of us can make that call. anyone can make claims about music not being good but the whole thing about her being manufactured is completely baseless. the fact she directed this video and writes all of her own music shows that she has control.

Ken Masters said:
when is this album coming out?
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i'm pretty sure it's sometime in may.
 
PowderedToast said:
Then no, it isn't. By saying that you've pinpointed the reason Gaga is an awful role model for Pop music and artists alike - she takes the meaning out of everything. All that symbolism means nothing, her music means nothing. It's manufactured provocation masquerading as something personal and meaningful. All that surface iconography but there's no reasoning. Gaga is not an artist expressing herself, she's riding through the stages of being a pop icon without understanding why any of it matters, the importance of being somebody who can reach so many people. See it as the antithesis of Michael Jackson.
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so many assumptions here.
 
enzo_gt said:
Leaked lyrics? Seriously this is what the world has come to?
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c'mon enzo you know you were trippin nuts when Kanye rapped accapello at Facebook headquaters or when he previewed a shitty(ier), muffled version of AOTL on ustream.
not that I'm defending this or anything.
 
I enjoy the Lady Gaga threads where it's the same couple of posters who DONT CARE ABOUT GAGA but like to chime in and let us know that SHES ALL MANUFACTURED and shit.
 
Lady gaga fell of as soon as she released that shitty song at the start of the year.

but i do go crazy for her music in clubs
 
I absolutely love Pokerface, Bad Romance, Telephone, Paparazzi, etc, but I can't stand the pervasive religious talk in her latest songs.

She really does seem to want to convert people or something. Also, notice that atheists are notably absent from the minority groups she mentions/supports in the Born This Way lyrics.
 
Born this way was shit. This will be shit. She is trying too hard to be Madonna and look edgy, so she comes off as a pretentious bellend.

And GAF's hit an all time low by posting rumoured song lyrics. Jesus christ.
 
btkadams said:
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seriously? who are you to say she isn't expressing herself, really? i don't think any of us can make that call. anyone can make claims about music not being good but the whole thing about her being manufactured is completely baseless. the fact she directed this video and writes all of her own music shows that she has control.
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Because I can hear it? If you're aiming to provoke then you're not an artist, you have nothing to say. Or are you considering her shameful pandering to LGBT communities ("Don't be a drag just be a Queen") to be real expression.
 
PowderedToast said:
Because I can hear it? If you're aiming to provoke then you're not an artist, you have nothing to say. Or are you considering her shameful pandering to LGBT communities ("Don't be a drag just be a Queen") to be real expression.
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she's won an award for her "pandering"...... she participates at LGBT rallies and stuff.

it just sounds like you're very bothered by her for some reason. if anything, be bothered by the other musicians making the money she makes that aren't using their spotlight to help people whatsoever or actually writing/designing anything they do.
 
You fooled me once with the hype for Born This Way, Gaga. Never again. If Judas isn't the best goddamn song ever, my faith in Godga will be shattered.
 
Im not going to let myself get blindly swept into the hype like i did with born this way (which for the record i think is ok)
That you even need to have reassurance in the thread title is pretty telling.
 
Didn't realize the song was out so soon. Hope it's great. Born This Way isn't bad, I just grew bored of it very quickly which doesn't usually happen to me. I'm not tired of the song like other songs overplayed on the radio, I don't dislike it like, it's just boring.

I like the name of Judas though.
 
Lijik said:
Im not going to let myself get blindly swept into the hype like i did with born this way (which for the record i think is ok)
That you even need to have reassurance in the thread title is pretty telling.
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I have to be honest - I like Born This Way. It has a great feeling about it and it is really "fun" and a lot less dark than her previous work. The title I made up based on the fact that for some reason mods changed the title of my original thread from HYPE to HATE for the original song. I'm continuing the joke, I don't actually have any doubt that JUDAS will be just as good if not better than Born This Way.
 
julls said:
So much hate for Born This Way. I actually really like the song. Hope this one is good.
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It's not a bad song, but it was hyped up to be the most amazing thing ever, and ended up being merely another OK pop song.
 
Go listen to Government Hooker if you need some sort of reassurance.
I believe there is a reason why she is releasing Judas, probably because BTW isnt strong enough to carry through to the release of her album.
 
Holy shit, the super high contrast/exposure/whatever the hell they did to on the gagavision videos annoys me to no end.

Also, the beat that started at around 24 seconds was hot. That's from BTW?
 
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