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[wwm0nkey]

Well this seems like an appropriate thread to post this in.

I am having a bit of an issue with this girl. I have known her for a few years and she has asked me out a few times but she is really not my type, very very nice girl but our interests and personalities are completely different. Well I have told her before that I just don't think it would work out but she doesn't seem to listen and still constantly tries to ask me out. Is there an easy way to make her understand?

Again she is a really nice girl so I don't want to make her too upset and I don't want her wasting so much time on me when it just isnt going to happen.

 

[Prax]

Well this seems like an appropriate thread to post this in.

I am having a bit of an issue with this girl. I have known her for a few years and she has asked me out a few times but she is really not my type, very very nice girl but our interests and personalities are completely different. Well I have told her before that I just don't think it would work out but she doesn't seem to listen and still constantly tries to ask me out. Is there an easy way to make her understand?

Again she is a really nice girl so I don't want to make her too upset and I don't want her wasting so much time on me when it just isnt going to happen.

Yay! Friendzoning a girl!

Why not just.. not respond to her a lot or not hang out? Just distance yourself. It doesn't seem like you're best friends or really close friends, I hope.

Or try to keep hooking her up with other guys? "Hey, that guy seems nice.. you should ask him out!" And talk about girls you are interested in, "I really like _____. You think I'm her type?" THOSE ARE SERIOUS HINTS TO TELL HER TO BACK OFF.
And hey, if it doesn't get through to her because she's being dumb and dense about it, you have to shoot her down point blank. "Sorry, I am just not interested in you in that way. I don't think it's going to work out, and I don't care to find out if it will."

That is my opinion though. I hope others have gentler ways going about this. >_>

 

[Kinitari]

Yay! Friendzoning a girl!

Why not just.. not respond to her a lot or not hang out? Just distance yourself. It doesn't seem like you're best friends or really close friends, I hope.

Or try to keep hooking her up with other guys? "Hey, that guy seems nice.. you should ask him out!" And talk about girls you are interested in, "I really like _____. You think I'm her type?" THOSE ARE SERIOUS HINTS TO TELL HER TO BACK OFF.
And hey, if it doesn't get through to her because she's being dumb and dense about it, you have to shoot her down point blank. "Sorry, I am just not interested in you in that way. I don't think it's going to work out, and I don't care to find out if it will."

That is my opinion though. I hope others have gentler ways going about this. >_>

Tell her you have a VD.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Yay! Friendzoning a girl!

Why not just.. not respond to her a lot or not hang out? Just distance yourself. It doesn't seem like you're best friends or really close friends, I hope.

Or try to keep hooking her up with other guys? "Hey, that guy seems nice.. you should ask him out!" And talk about girls you are interested in, "I really like _____. You think I'm her type?" THOSE ARE SERIOUS HINTS TO TELL HER TO BACK OFF.
And hey, if it doesn't get through to her because she's being dumb and dense about it, you have to shoot her down point blank. "Sorry, I am just not interested in you in that way. I don't think it's going to work out, and I don't care to find out if it will."

That is my opinion though. I hope others have gentler ways going about this. >_>

Trust me I've tried the not talking or hanging out thing but every time she manages to talk to me she always either hints to ask me out or just flat out asks me even though I haven't talked to her in a month.

Next time it happens though I will just bluntly tell her I am not interested and hopefully she listens.

To be honest though I really have no idea why in the hell she likes me.

 

[shanshan310]

Trust me I've tried the not talking or hanging out thing but every time she manages to talk to me she always either hints to ask me out or just flat out asks me even though I haven't talked to her in a month.

Next time it happens though I will just bluntly tell her I am not interested and hopefully she listens.

To be honest though I really have no idea why in the hell she likes me.

She might back off if you get a girlfriend, or (if you don't see her much) tell her you have one (even if you really don't).

 

[Prax]

Tell her you have a VD.

That probably won't stop her! Desperate girls will make all sorts of excuses for you!

Trust me I've tried the not talking or hanging out thing but every time she manages to talk to me she always either hints to ask me out or just flat out asks me even though I haven't talked to her in a month.

Next time it happens though I will just bluntly tell her I am not interested and hopefully she listens.

To be honest though I really have no idea why in the hell she likes me.

Yeahhhh.. she sounds kind of desparate. Does she really not date anyone else or something and she sees you as "the one"? Or she a major flirt that does that to everyone?

 

[wwm0nkey]

She might back off if you get a girlfriend, or (if you don't see her much) tell her you have one (even if you really don't).

Back in High School when we had a class together she found out I had a girl friend at the time and always tried to act super depressed around me, it was kind of pathetic on how she tried to guilt me.

Might just do the whole fake I have a girlfriend thing though since I don't see her anyways and that would get her to back off.

Yeahhhh.. she sounds kind of desparate. Does she really not date anyone else or something and she sees you as "the one"? Or she a major flirt that does that to everyone?

She is one of those girls who is majorly obsessed with anime and she is kind of annoyingly hyper sometimes so not a lot of guys are really trying to ask her out.

 

[Finaika]

Here's a dumb question. I work at a coffee shop and noticed lately that women around my age actively avoid eye contact with me. Even while I'm helping them out or taking their order, they'll almost never look me in the eyes. I'm told I'm attractive and I'm not starring at them or anything, so what's the deal?

I have this problem as well.

Practically everyone I talk to refuse to make eye contact with me. WTF am I that ugly?

 

[daffy]

Your hotness makes them nervous.

 

[shanshan310]

lol, people wouldn't avoid looking at you because you are ugly!

I actually think this

Your hotness makes them nervous.

might be closer to the truth than you think.

I usually need to read what I'm ordering out, so there could be that too.

 

[cooljeanius]

I think it's just unclear about what exactly the norms for making eye contact are. In some places/contexts you're expected to, and in others you're expected not to, so people might be tending to take the easy route and not bother with it.

 

[Luigiv]

I think it's just unclear about what exactly the norms for making eye contact are. In some places/contexts you're expected to, and in others you're expected not to, so people might be tending to take the easy route and not bother with it.

Even so, that's more of a person by person thing, rather then something that pertains to such a specific demographic. Yes some people are a bit socially awkward and can't figure the whole eye-contact thing out but most people have no such problems. It's not exactly rocket science.

That being said, I don't really have any alternate theories myself.

 

[cloudwalking]

Here's a dumb question. I work at a coffee shop and noticed lately that women around my age actively avoid eye contact with me. Even while I'm helping them out or taking their order, they'll almost never look me in the eyes. I'm told I'm attractive and I'm not starring at them or anything, so what's the deal?

I have this problem as well.

Practically everyone I talk to refuse to make eye contact with me. WTF am I that ugly?

the first thing that popped into my mind when i read this is that some of these women could already be taken. i actively avoid making long eye contact with guys my age because, since i'm married, i don't want it to be misinterpreted as flirting. i don't want to convey a message that i'm available or something, so if a guy looks at me for longer than ~2 seconds, i look away.

also, the eye contact thing can make certain women uneasy, and not because they think the guy's a creep, but because it's not something they're used to. perhaps they're under confident about their looks and are wondering why this handsome dude suddenly seems to show interest in them, and are unsure how to respond?

 

[knee]

also, the eye contact thing can make certain women uneasy, and not because they think the guy's a creep, but because it's not something they're used to...

 

[Luigiv]

the first thing that popped into my mind when i read this is that some of these women could already be taken. i actively avoid making long eye contact with guys my age because, since i'm married, i don't want it to be misinterpreted as flirting. i don't want to convey a message that i'm available or something, so if a guy looks at me for longer than ~2 seconds, i look away.

also, the eye contact thing can make certain women uneasy, and not because they think the guy's a creep, but because it's not something they're used to. perhaps they're under confident about their looks and are wondering why this handsome dude suddenly seems to show interest in them, and are unsure how to respond?

Reversal, ManGAF advises LadyGaf:
1.Eye Contact != Flirting. Making Eye-Contact with someone you're talking to is simple etiquette. As long as you act natural about it no one will interpret it as anything different. By actively averting your gaze on a set timer, you only serves to highlight to the world your own social awkwardness. Instead you should just let you gaze shift and rest naturally like you would with anyone else who your not paranoid is trying to steal you from you're husband.

2. Don't you wear a wedding ring? Isn't that proof enough you're not available?

3. Punctuation. Learn it.

 

[cloudwalking]

Reversal, ManGAF advises LadyGaf:
1.Eye Contact != Flirting. Making Eye-Contact with someone you're talking to is simple etiquette. As long as you act natural about it no one will interpret it as anything different. By actively averting your gaze on a set timer, you only serves to highlight to the world your own social awkwardness. Instead you should just let you gaze shift and rest naturally like you would with anyone else who your not paranoid is trying to steal you from you're husband.

2. Don't you wear a wedding ring? Isn't that proof enough you're not available?

3. Punctuation. Learn it.

1. of course i wasn't talking about simple impoliteness -- avoiding eye contact with people you're actively dealing with: acquaintances, waiters, salespeople, cashiers, etc.

i'm talking about the type of eye contact people make when they want to imply something, get noticed, or grab a girl/guy's attention. and yes, sometimes people you are forced to talk to or deal with will attempt to make that kind of eye contact with you, too.

if there's some dude making eyes at me from across the train/cafe/club/cash register, i'm not going to stare back at him because that conveys interest, something i don't need some random guy falsely picking up on.

2. do you have eagle eye vision or some shit? do you notice a wedding ring on a woman from several meters away?

3. my mistake. you must have poor vision, actually. because i personally see a hell of a lot of punctuation in my post.

 

[grap3fruitman]

You're missing the point. In this line of thinking, both outcomes suck.

She says no she's reenforcing your own self-loathing. She says yes and you're just setting yourself up for a much, much harder fall. The only winning move is not to play.

I think you're misunderstanding. "No," and nothing changes. "Yes," and... now what? The hell do I or someone else do in this scenario? I've never gotten a "Yes" before and I don't think I ever will at this point.

 

[fadetoblack]

This is actually interesting re: the whole creepy eyes thing. I don't always get it. Like, I've tried to make eye contact with girls before, not like I'm staring at her breasts or anything, and I was told by a female friend that what I was doing was creeping (it was not her I was trying to make eye contact with). I've done it before as just a way of subtly trying to make that connection before I just go up and say hello. I don't think that's creepy at all. It's a male gaze because I'm a male and I'm gazing. It isn't some mental undressing, so I don't think its "creepy."

Also, in reading this thread and in writing this paragraph, the word "creepy" has lost all meaning to me.

 

[ianp622]

1. of course i wasn't talking about simple impoliteness -- avoiding eye contact with people you're actively dealing with: acquaintances, waiters, salespeople, cashiers, etc.

i'm talking about the type of eye contact people make when they want to imply something, get noticed, or grab a girl/guy's attention. and yes, sometimes people you are forced to talk to or deal with will attempt to make that kind of eye contact with you, too.

if there's some dude making eyes at me from across the train/cafe/club/cash register, i'm not going to stare back at him because that conveys interest, something i don't need some random guy falsely picking up on.

2. do you have eagle eye vision or some shit? do you notice a wedding ring on a woman from several meters away?

3. my mistake. you must have poor vision, actually. because i personally see a hell of a lot of punctuation in my post.

Usually, I understand eye contact as flirting only if the girl smiles when I smile, and/or if she fixes her hair when I make eye contact.

Even then, that's only a possibility of flirting. I'd have to actually talk to her to gauge her interest.

 

[clearacell]

How about we get away from "creepy glare" to "glance"? i.e. how do you know when you are getting glanced at? I'm sure its universally agreed that many glances coming your way means they like you, but how do you know they are coming?

To me, it's when you see the whites of their eyes in your peripheral...I'm not expert though, no one looks at me

 

[Londa]

for the most part I have never had a stranger that is male look into my eyes and then later not hit on me. So I think that the women not looking into your eyes have a good reason not to. Their not "wrong" in not wanting to stare into your eyes. They don't want to be hit on.

 

[noah111]

This thread has been fun to read. :lol

On the issue of staring/eye contact, just develop a way of using your peripheral vision. It takes practice, but i've seriously gotten good at not looking at someone but know if they're looking at me just through the corner of my eye or by acting like i'm not looking at them when I really am. And no, I don't have a disco eye or anything.

Also, don't do that glance shit, where your head is stationary but your eyes do this sling shot motion from her and back to the wall. It's lame as hell, even if she doesn't catch you doing it.

 

[TurboLibre]

Wow, guess I really kicked off a discussion here.

the first thing that popped into my mind when i read this is that some of these women could already be taken. i actively avoid making long eye contact with guys my age because, since i'm married, i don't want it to be misinterpreted as flirting. i don't want to convey a message that i'm available or something, so if a guy looks at me for longer than ~2 seconds, i look away.

My point was they don't make any eye contact. Anything under 2 seconds is perfectly fine, I'm not counting how long we're looking at each other or anything. I'm not talking about staring at someone or gazing into their eyes, just a simple acknowledgment you're talking to me.

for the most part I have never had a stranger that is male look into my eyes and then later not hit on me. So I think that the women not looking into your eyes have a good reason not to. Their not "wrong" in not wanting to stare into your eyes. They don't want to be hit on.

Well, again, I'm not talking about staring. And really? A guy will hit on you every time you make eye contact with them? That seems a little weird to me.

Still, I am looking for any hints that they're interested in me and eye contact is a big one. So I can see some confusion. My problem is I feel like their refusal to make eye contact is a signs of disdain, and since most women in my age group do that to me I can't help but feel a little shitty. It's part of the reason why I default to thinking I have no chance approaching women.

I think you're misunderstanding. "No," and nothing changes. "Yes," and... now what? The hell do I or someone else do in this scenario? I've never gotten a "Yes" before and I don't think I ever will at this point.

It's hard to give you an answer when you're being this vague, but I think that was my point. You said yourself you're scared of acceptance. Most people don't know what to do, they just try whatever pops into their head and see if it works. You hold yourself back because you're scared of succeeding.

Also, don't do that glance shit, where your head is stationary but your eyes do this sling shot motion from her and back to the wall. It's lame as hell, even if she doesn't catch you doing it.

How is a glance any different from using your Peripheral vision?

 

[G-Bus]

I've noticed a lot of the people I'll pass by walking around town will make eye contact with me, male or female. It actually bothers me. On the other hand I wouldn't notice if I wasn't looking at them/in their direction so I try not to put much thought into it.

No one smiles, that's what throws me off. If the girl smiled when said eye contact was made it would make things a lot easier.

Also, a pet peeve of mine is if I'm in a store and I ask for help with something from an employee, or at the cash register and they avoid eye contact the whole time, it pisses me off and I think it's incredibly rude. Not so much if we don't say anything to each other.

 

[cooljeanius]

Here's something fun to try: Walk down a street and try to make eye contact with every single other person walking by, and time how long it takes everybody else to break eye contact with you. The results can be interesting.

 

[TurboLibre]

Here's something fun to try: Walk down a street and try to make eye contact with every single other person walking by, and time how long it takes everybody else to break eye contact with you. The results can be interesting.

I do make eye contact with most people I pass by. You give them a smile or a head nod and they'll almost always give you a warm greeting in return.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Well this seems like an appropriate thread to post this in.

I am having a bit of an issue with this girl. I have known her for a few years and she has asked me out a few times but she is really not my type, very very nice girl but our interests and personalities are completely different. Well I have told her before that I just don't think it would work out but she doesn't seem to listen and still constantly tries to ask me out. Is there an easy way to make her understand?

Again she is a really nice girl so I don't want to make her too upset and I don't want her wasting so much time on me when it just isnt going to happen.

Have you by chance watched the latest episode of Louie?

 

[triplestation]

Guys I was joking about wanting a girlfriend and everything. It's pretty easy as fuck to ''hit'' on a girl. You just need to have your shit together. If you aren't presentable or aren't feeling presentable, you're missing something. When it comes down to it, it's simple. As fuck. Become a specimen of full health and that alone will guide you.

Advice from chicks and other people are just opinions, bros.

 

[yuna55]

Reversal, ManGAF advises LadyGaf:
1.Eye Contact != Flirting. Making Eye-Contact with someone you're talking to is simple etiquette. As long as you act natural about it no one will interpret it as anything different. By actively averting your gaze on a set timer, you only serves to highlight to the world your own social awkwardness. Instead you should just let you gaze shift and rest naturally like you would with anyone else who your not paranoid is trying to steal you from you're husband.

2. Don't you wear a wedding ring? Isn't that proof enough you're not available?

3. Punctuation. Learn it.

:lol Although a wedding ring is proof you're not technically available, wearing one does not mean a guy will not hit on a woman (and vice versa). I've actually had a lot of people use a comment about my ring as a pick-up line, feeling out if I'm happily married or not. So many people are just looking for a challenge and enjoy the chase. Unfortunately, if you just smile and politely say, "Sorry, I'm really happy with my husband," it just fuels it. Now, I act oblivious that they're trying to hit on me and politely tell that person how amazing of a couple we are. "Do you have grandparents or know a sweet, old couple who have been together 60 years and are still completely in love? That'll be us when we're 80." Gets to the point pretty quickly without making pukey sounds in a guys face.

I agree with Londa and cloud. As soon as you make eye contact with many guys, they mistake it for a chance. The only time I actually make eye contact with people I don't know is in workplaces, either at my own job (smile and say hi to people I don't know but work with) or at their job (ordering food, buying something, etc). But I live in a city where most people drive everywhere, so I'm sure that's not the case for other places.

When I worked with the public, I always made eye contact and smiled, but I worked in places where most customers were significantly older than me, so most people didn't hit on me. I still had several customers (twice my age) mistake good customer service for potential flirting, and pull the ol', "Oh you're married? Well your husband doesn't have to know." ugh, I have heard that line from every single guy I've ever told, "Sorry, I have a bf/husband..." Just a tip for you guys, if you hit on a chick, and she responds with, "Sorry, I'm already with someone," that means that she may or may not be with someone, but she's not interested regardless. If girls are actually interested, they usually won't mention a bf right away or will mention it reluctantly.

 

[noah111]

How is a glance any different from using your Peripheral vision?

You actually move your eyeballs so your pupils are facing in the precise direction of who you want to look at, and the fast move it back.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Have you by chance watched the latest episode of Louie?

Nope, guessing it somehow relates to my post though?

 

[TurboLibre]

You actually move your eyeballs so your pupils are facing in the precise direction of who you want to look at, and the fast move it back.

I know, but why are you recommending one while saying the other is lame?

 

[RedAssedApe]

Nope, guessing it somehow relates to my post though?

Yes...there is a poignant scene at the end of the episode that applies. Watch it on hulu.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Yes...there is a poignant scene at the end of the episode that applies. Watch it on hulu.

Decided to look it up and I am guessing you are talking about when he misheard her and thought she said "Wait for me".

Did I guess right?

 

[2San]

I do make eye contact with most people I pass by. You give them a smile or a head nod and they'll almost always give you a warm greeting in return.

I fixed my bad habit of always looking down while walking and not siting straight. I just can't get used making eye contact all the time with people. :x

 

[RedAssedApe]

Decided to look it up and I am guessing you are talking about when he misheard her and thought she said "Wait for me".

Did I guess right?

Yeah that was the scene although there was more before that where she pretty much shuts him down. Just reminded me of your situation (albeit roles reversed) where you tell the person that you like them as a friend but nothing more...and they always somehow misconstrue your words to mean something else that gives them a glimmer of hope. haha

 

[Avocado]

LadyGAF, I need your wisdom.

I've been on a friendly basis with a girl, and I've started to take a liking to her. However, I am bad at interpreting signals.

2 weeks ago she invited me to a dinner at her place. There are two other couples, and then there is her and me. Is this supposed to be a message?

 

[blame space]

she wants you for the chips

 

[Luigiv]

1. of course i wasn't talking about simple impoliteness -- avoiding eye contact with people you're actively dealing with: acquaintances, waiters, salespeople, cashiers, etc.

i'm talking about the type of eye contact people make when they want to imply something, get noticed, or grab a girl/guy's attention. and yes, sometimes people you are forced to talk to or deal with will attempt to make that kind of eye contact with you, too.

if there's some dude making eyes at me from across the train/cafe/club/cash register, i'm not going to stare back at him because that conveys interest, something i don't need some random guy falsely picking up on.

2. do you have eagle eye vision or some shit? do you notice a wedding ring on a woman from several meters away?

3. my mistake. you must have poor vision, actually. because i personally see a hell of a lot of punctuation in my post.

1 & 2. You do realise the guys you were reply to were talking about women averting eye-contact from them when they were serving them at a cashier, right? Not when they were ogling girls across the train like an idiotic pervert. Your remark makes a lot more sense now.

3. Yes you're writing has some punctuation but not all that it should have. Look at how I begin new sentences and how I write my I's. It'll give you a hint.
Blah ignore that.

:lol Although a wedding ring is proof you're not technically available, wearing one does not mean a guy will not hit on a woman (and vice versa). I've actually had a lot of people use a comment about my ring as a pick-up line, feeling out if I'm happily married or not. So many people are just looking for a challenge and enjoy the chase. Unfortunately, if you just smile and politely say, "Sorry, I'm really happy with my husband," it just fuels it. Now, I act oblivious that they're trying to hit on me and politely tell that person how amazing of a couple we are. "Do you have grandparents or know a sweet, old couple who have been together 60 years and are still completely in love? That'll be us when we're 80." Gets to the point pretty quickly without making pukey sounds in a guys face.

I agree with Londa and cloud. As soon as you make eye contact with many guys, they mistake it for a chance. The only time I actually make eye contact with people I don't know is in workplaces, either at my own job (smile and say hi to people I don't know but work with) or at their job (ordering food, buying something, etc). But I live in a city where most people drive everywhere, so I'm sure that's not the case for other places.

When I worked with the public, I always made eye contact and smiled, but I worked in places where most customers were significantly older than me, so most people didn't hit on me. I still had several customers (twice my age) mistake good customer service for potential flirting, and pull the ol', "Oh you're married? Well your husband doesn't have to know." ugh, I have heard that line from every single guy I've ever told, "Sorry, I have a bf/husband..." Just a tip for you guys, if you hit on a chick, and she responds with, "Sorry, I'm already with someone," that means that she may or may not be with someone, but she's not interested regardless. If girls are actually interested, they usually won't mention a bf right away or will mention it reluctantly.

Fair enough. I didn't realise that some guys could really be that pathetic. I'll tread more carefully when speaking on behalf of my gender, then.

 

[apocalidiot]

she wants you for the chips

blame space nailed it

 

[TurboLibre]

Luigiv, my friend. Internet rule #1.

If you're going to call someone out for grammar, make sure yours is in check.

 

[Professor Beef]

Not that grammar really matters on the internet, but whatever.

 

[Luigiv]

Luigiv, my friend. Internet rule #1.

If you're going to call someone out for grammar, make sure yours is in check.

Edit: I retract this statement. I was a bit of a dick.

 

[Devolution]

If I was being a dick and nitpicking honest mistakes you'd have a point but that's not what's going on here. cloudwalking is intentionally not using any capitalisation at all. You don't have to have perfect grammar yourself to point out something like that. There is no hypocrisy because I'm not tell her to be perfect (which I'm certainly not) but to at least try (which I definitely do but she's obviously not).

blame space must drive you crazy.

 

[daffy]

If I was being a dick and nitpicking honest mistakes you'd have a point but that's not what's going on here. cloudwalking is intentionally not using any capitalisation at all. You don't have to have perfect grammar yourself to point out something like that. There is no hypocrisy because I'm not tell her to be perfect (which I'm certainly not) but to at least try (which I definitely do but she's obviously not).

what are you on about love

you gonna send her away to punctuation prison ?

 

[Jin34]

If I was being a dick and nitpicking honest mistakes you'd have a point but that's not what's going on here. cloudwalking is intentionally not using any capitalisation at all. You don't have to have perfect grammar yourself to point out something like that. There is no hypocrisy because I'm not tell her to be perfect (which I'm certainly not) but to at least try (which I definitely do but she's obviously not).

Holy shit dude, go masturbate ffs.

 

[shanshan310]

I never even noticed a lack of capital letters. NOW I SEE IT EVERYWHERE AAAAAAAAAH. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE.

Here's something fun to try: Walk down a street and try to make eye contact with every single other person walking by, and time how long it takes everybody else to break eye contact with you. The results can be interesting.

I used to do this when I lived in Japan. Everyone stared at me anyway, so I just stared back. fun times.

 

[Professor Beef]

If I was being a dick and nitpicking honest mistakes you'd have a point but that's not what's going on here. cloudwalking is intentionally not using any capitalisation at all. You don't have to have perfect grammar yourself to point out something like that. There is no hypocrisy because I'm not trying tell her to be perfect (which I'm certainly not) but to at least try (which I definitely do but she's obviously not).

dsgj jykfhjktfth jjn

 

[Lissar]

Yikes, nothing wrong with being a bit lazy on a message board. It's not like she was writing an academic paper. Given that I feel no confusion when reading her posts, I don't see a problem with not using perfect punctuation. It is only when I find myself reading something three or four times that I think there's a problem.

 

[blame space]

Devolution,

Please don't be coy. It is not only Luigiv that I drive crazy, but yourself and many others.

Yours Truly,
blame space
(better than Timedog)