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More specific how? It's tight curls that don't hang. My hair tends to stick straight up on all sides, has to be really long for it to be weighed down enough to hang.

That's a bit better. Personally not a fan of curly hair, I know some girls who are. I prefer hair closely cropped to the scalp but some dudes can work their hair.
 
Bros, I think this is the first time I've really felt a spark with a girl. Just saying that makes me feel like I am being melodramatic, but I'm serious - out of the three previous girls I've been with (one being my ex of 7 years), I've never initially felt anything near this. The first kiss was amazing, I never used to like kisses because I thought they were kind of boring, but fuck... I was wrong, kisses are awesome.

I'm a little worried now though, because with the other girls I've recently been with, I think my sort of... aloof, not-too-invested attitude has been a bonus. With this girl... I have to fight like every desire in my body to constantly text her and talk to her, and the idea of fooling around with her makes me fucking nervous, because I find her not only intellectually attractive, but so physically attractive that it actually befuddles me when I talk to her.

I've only been on ONE date with this girl.

I'm trying to take some peoples advice and trying to calm the fuck down, hopefully I'll be able to. I'm seeing her again in a few days - she's housesitting for a friend and I am going to go over, and we're going to hang out in the area.

One thing she said to me that sort of... stood out, was she said I seemed so sincere, that my sort of awkward attempts at trying to conceal how into her I am was not only very flattering, but very charming. Does that make any sense GAF? I don't quite understand what she means, by being not-charming, I'm being charming?

Aw this sounds cute :) I hope everything works out for you two!
 
Okay need some help figuring out if this girl likes me or is just being friendly.
2 weeks into the semester about early october we get a new girl that transfers into our class, the first time I saw her I was pretty much mesmerized. We had a bbq during a weekend and asked my friend if she was invited and if she was going- yes. So I went too. We ended up talking a bit and playing some card games with everyone. At this point it was just casual talk.

Anyway fast forward a while. I add her on fb eventually. She accepts. We talk on chat for like an hour , same thing the next day. We had midterms so after that we stopped talking as much except for a message here and there on fb and Hi's in uni.

2 weeks ago I came into class late and the only free seat was next to her. So sat there asked her for her blackberry pin. She gives it to me. We start the conversation and she says." Glad you're here I was so bored" anyway we end up talking quite a bit on bbm. Sometimes she's really talkative and sweet, other times she's cold and just uses one word answers. I really don't know what to think. We have so much in common but I don't know what to do. :(

any help would be appreciated
 
Is it true that some guys look better than they do clean?

I think I'm one of those guys. I spent all morning working out in the dirt and on the way to the shower, still funky, this girl that I pass everyday hits me up like its the first time she's into me. Now when I'm clean, dressed up and whatnot and I see here at the mall, I getsnolove. Now? SUGOOOOOOOOIII

Aside from my mind being full of fuck - is this something that some girls do? Or am I just attracting another crazy?
 
One thing she said to me that sort of... stood out, was she said I seemed so sincere, that my sort of awkward attempts at trying to conceal how into her I am was not only very flattering, but very charming. Does that make any sense GAF? I don't quite understand what she means, by being not-charming, I'm being charming?
If I'm reading it right, it means that she sees how hard you're trying to play things right, as it were, even though she can sense that you want to come on strong - and she thinks your effort is both genuine and charming.

In other words, whatever you're doing to pace yourself and not overload yourselves - keep doing it, because she likes it (and, it would seem, you). WTG!
 
Is it true that some guys look better than they do clean?

I think I'm one of those guys. I spent all morning working out in the dirt and on the way to the shower, still funky, this girl that I pass everyday hits me up like its the first time she's into me. Now when I'm clean, dressed up and whatnot and I see here at the mall, I getsnolove. Now? SUGOOOOOOOOIII

Aside from my mind being full of fuck - is this something that some girls do? Or am I just attracting another crazy?
Pheromones.

Also: post-workout musculature glistening in the fluorescent light.

Also: it's tough as fuck to actually hold a girl's attention in a mall, no matter what you look like. You're competing with shoes. And handbags. And that really cute dress she's been wanting since, like, EVER. Don't take it personally.
 
So I'm pretty dense with women and could use an outsiders perspective. I think the new girl from work has been sending me signals for a little while now. Second time I met her she started to give me hugs (seemed pretty forward to me, and I'm not seeing her do that with anyone else), during our conversations she's talked about how we've bonded, focuses the conversation on me even when there's a room full of people, and got concerned when I mentioned I had a female roommate. Nothing glaring, but they've been stacking up.

Anyway, I was chatting with a different co-worker and he was complaining about getting dragged by his girlfriend to the new Twilight movie. The conversation quickly turned into a Twilight hate fest, then this girl chimed in and said I can't hate on something without seeing it first. She then said I should go see it with her. I jokingly told her the only way I could sit though that movie is if I was hammered drunk, she replied by saying I had to see it sober but she'd buy me a drink afterwords. Now my question: is this a date? It feels pretty stupid to ask, but I have the worst time knowing the difference between interest and someone being friendly.

Separate question: I was talking to some gals and they mentioned some weird stuff about texting etiquette. They said I don't sound like I want to talk because I use proper punctuation and don't mess with smileys. And apparently using a period at the end of the sentence is rude. Is this really a thing with you ladies?
 
Separate question: I was talking to some gals and they mentioned some weird stuff about texting etiquette. They said I don't sound like I want to talk because I use proper punctuation and don't mess with smileys. And apparently using a period at the end of the sentence is rude. Is this really a thing with you ladies?
Yeah sounds like a date , and the texting thing. Too many smileys - girly/gay. None- are you okay? you seem sad/angry. Just add a little smiley here and there or at the end of a text. :p's - go anywhere :p
 
So I'm pretty dense with women and could use an outsiders perspective. I think the new girl from work has been sending me signals for a little while now. Second time I met her she started to give me hugs (seemed pretty forward to me, and I'm not seeing her do that with anyone else), during our conversations she's talked about how we've bonded, focuses the conversation on me even when there's a room full of people, and got concerned when I mentioned I had a female roommate. Nothing glaring, but they've been stacking up.

Anyway, I was chatting with a different co-worker and he was complaining about getting dragged by his girlfriend to the new Twilight movie. The conversation quickly turned into a Twilight hate fest, then this girl chimed in and said I can't hate on something without seeing it first. She then said I should go see it with her. I jokingly told her the only way I could sit though that movie is if I was hammered drunk, she replied by saying I had to see it sober but she'd buy me a drink afterwords. Now my question: is this a date? It feels pretty stupid to ask, but I have the worst time knowing the difference between interest and someone being friendly.

Separate question: I was talking to some gals and they mentioned some weird stuff about texting etiquette. They said I don't sound like I want to talk because I use proper punctuation and don't mess with smileys. And apparently using a period at the end of the sentence is rude. Is this really a thing with you ladies?
On your "date": it's a hangout that will turn into a date if you make a more formal ask. (Aside from my natural gag reflex at the mere mention of Twilight and the prospect of co-workers dating. It's just a bad idea).

On your penchant for proper spelling and punctuation in texts: continue your habit of spelling and punctuating appropriately. Eventually, someone will appreciate it. She'll be a keeper.

Those who don't think it's appropriate to spell and punctuate properly are morons. I don't care about the impracticality of long-form in text messages, if you're truncating words to be cool you're as dumb as a post. But that's a personal opinion that I'm sure isn't universally shared, given the current state of the English language and the need for the Oatmeal to post things like this.
 
On your "date": it's a hangout that will turn into a date if you make a more formal ask. (Aside from my natural gag reflex at the mere mention of Twilight and the prospect of co-workers dating. It's just a bad idea).

Trust me, I'm not looking forward to Twilight. I told her I'd think about it and she kept trying to convince me until I caved. As for the co-worker thing, that's why I'm trying to play things very casual. It's a part time job that I need to move from anyway, so I'm thinking I'll just play it by ear. Just wanted another outlook to see if I'm I'm justified for picking up some vibes.
 
Trust me, I'm not looking forward to Twilight. I told her I'd think about it and she kept trying to convince me until I caved. As for the co-worker thing, that's why I'm trying to play things very casual. It's a part time job that I need to move from anyway, so I'm think I'll just play it by ear. Just wanted another outlook to see if I'm I'm justified for picking up some vibes.

Well in that case, justified you are.
 
If I'm reading it right, it means that she sees how hard you're trying to play things right, as it were, even though she can sense that you want to come on strong - and she thinks your effort is both genuine and charming.

In other words, whatever you're doing to pace yourself and not overload yourselves - keep doing it, because she likes it (and, it would seem, you). WTG!

I guess so, I'll keep it up! I see this girl in a few days - once both of our exams are done! Hooray.
 
Just cross-threading between the other dating thread and this one, but I need some perspective on age differences.

How normal is it for the guy to be 5 or so years older than the girl? Or is a 2-3 age gap more workable? I've been noticing that I've been dating a lot of 22-23 year olds (I'm 27 turning 28 in a month) and I don't feel like I can get along with most of them. Of course, there are factors like being in different places in our respective lives...
 
Just cross-threading between the other dating thread and this one, but I need some perspective on age differences.

How normal is it for the guy to be 5 or so years older than the girl? Or is a 2-3 age gap more workable? I've been noticing that I've been dating a lot of 22-23 year olds (I'm 27 turning 28 in a month) and I don't feel like I can get along with most of them. Of course, there are factors like being in different places in our respective lives...

I don't think 5 years is all that strange. 22-23 doesn't seem like a stretch, especially if they're at your level of maturity and have similar interests. In fact it seems like many couples I know of, the guy is typically a couple years older.
 
I don't think 5 years is all that strange. 22-23 doesn't seem like a stretch, especially if they're at your level of maturity and have similar interests. In fact it seems like many couples I know of, the guy is typically a couple years older.

Well, that's the thing. Most of them aren't at the same level as me. That, and they're fresh out of school...
 
Already posted on girl-age but they always ignore my posts
probably because I used to troll a bit

What is your opinion lady-gaf?.

The girl I like is 3 years older than me, and she already knows that I love videogames.

Do I have game with her?, it seems that every girl a bit older than you sees videogames as an inmature hobby unless she likes them.

And she already has a college degree and I do not know if she has a boyfriend.
 
Already posted on girl-age but they always ignore my posts
probably because I used to troll a bit

What is your opinion lady-gaf?.

The girl I like is 3 years older than me, and she already knows that I love videogames.

Do I have game with her?, it seems that every girl a bit older than you sees videogames as an inmature hobby unless she likes them.

And she already has a college degree and I do not know if she has a boyfriend.

I don't think that should matter. All my past girlfriends were surprised when they found out that I like video games, but I don't think that affected their opinions of me at all.

Of course, one of them did mention she was shocked that a social guy like me was a gamer. I was a little offended.
 
Then why are you bothering?

... Y'know what? I don't think I've ever paused to ask myself that question before.

I mean, I used to never date when I was in undergrad, and I've been constantly dating for the past few years. I tend to just ask women out and see where it goes for a first/second date.
 
... Y'know what? I don't think I've ever paused to ask myself that question before.

I mean, I used to never date when I was in undergrad, and I've been constantly dating for the past few years. I tend to just ask women out and see where it goes for a first/second date.

I feel like if you know what you want at this point, start narrowing the scope of women. Otherwise it sounds like you're just wasting time, money and energy on people who deep down you know aren't going to work. I can see if you want the experience or think maybe you'll get lucky but it sounds like you're just tired of it.
 
I feel like if you know what you want at this point, start narrowing the scope of women. Otherwise it sounds like you're just wasting time, money and energy on people who deep down you know aren't going to work. I can see if you want the experience or think maybe you'll get lucky but it sounds like you're just tired of it.

Hahaha, well you got that right. I guess I'm always hopeful that something will work out. Or that I'll be pleasantly surprised.

The thing is... how do I narrow women down even before the first date? That was easier when I dated my friends or within my social circle, but harder now since I tend to meet women outside my social circle (ie. they aren't vetted by my friends) or online.
 
Hahaha, well you got that right. I guess I'm always hopeful that something will work out. Or that I'll be pleasantly surprised.

The thing is... how do I narrow women down even before the first date? That was easier when I dated my friends or within my social circle, but harder now since I tend to meet women outside my social circle (ie. they aren't vetted by my friends) or online.

Talking with them before you decide to just hit them up for a date I guess? Honestly this is where I kind of fail men because I honestly don't know how to seek out certain kinds of women, for obvious reasons. That's why I sometimes recommend hobby type stuff or taking cooking or training classes at the local community college, maybe even yoga or something. Women who are looking to improve themselves or are aren't as shallow are more likely to be in these places than your local club/bar.
 
I don't think that should matter. All my past girlfriends were surprised when they found out that I like video games, but I don't think that affected their opinions of me at all.

That seems to be the case with girls of the same age as me, but this one is 3 years older than me, I can stay calm and confident while I talk to other girls, but when she is next to me... well..

I cant even talk because of the nerves, sometimes we go in a group to lunch, she comes with us, I sit close to her (because I think that if I try to talk to her i'll feel more secure in a matter of days) .

But I cannot even say a single word because we have different interests, and I just keep thinking "what should I say what should I say??".

I think that she sees me as a boring person, in one of the few times that I crossed words with her, she asked me " Apart from studying and playing videogames, what else do you do?".

I replied - I Work - ( quite a dumb answer, shes a coworker)

She just said " So bored...."

And I think that at that moment I lost any game with her.
 
That seems to be the case with girls of the same age as me, but this one is 3 years older than me, I can stay calm and confident while I talk to other girls, but when she is next to me

I cant even talk because of the nerves, sometimes we go in a group to lunch, she comes with us, I sit close to her (because I think that if I try to talk to her i'll feel more secure in a matter of days) .

But I cannot even say a single word because we have different interests, and I just keep thinking "what should I say what should I say??".

I think that she sees me as a bored person, in one of the few times that I crossed words with her, she asked me " Apart from studying and playing videogames, what else do you do?".

I replied - I Work - ( quite a dumb answer, shes a coworker)

She just said " So bored...."

And I think that at that moment I lost any game with her.

Ask her what she's interested in and if she mentions something you could see yourself being interested in, engage her on it and even find a way for you both to do it together.
 
The first piece of advice in the OP should of read something like this:

"First piece of advice from GirlGAF: Never listen to advice from GirlGAF."
 
That seems to be the case with girls of the same age as me, but this one is 3 years older than me, I can stay calm and confident while I talk to other girls, but when she is next to me... well..

I cant even talk because of the nerves, sometimes we go in a group to lunch, she comes with us, I sit close to her (because I think that if I try to talk to her i'll feel more secure in a matter of days) .

But I cannot even say a single word because we have different interests, and I just keep thinking "what should I say what should I say??".

I think that she sees me as a boring person, in one of the few times that I crossed words with her, she asked me " Apart from studying and playing videogames, what else do you do?".

I replied - I Work - ( quite a dumb answer, shes a coworker)

She just said " So bored...."

And I think that at that moment I lost any game with her.

Conversation is about asking questions. You ask questions until you get to something you can relate to. Ask about her. Stop trying to talk and start trying to find out about her. I find my most interesting conversations with people are about things I know nothing about. Just don't act like you know something about it. Let the other person teach you.
 
Ask her what she's interested in and if she mentions something you could see yourself being interested in, engage her on it and even find a way for you both to do it together.

She likes rock music ( I like rock, but I mainly listen to videogame OST's), go to theatre ( I hate that), opera ( I hate that), art (Not my thing), movies ( I like movies too, I think everyone does).

Nothing else that I can think of.
 
That seems to be the case with girls of the same age as me, but this one is 3 years older than me, I can stay calm and confident while I talk to other girls, but when she is next to me... well..

I cant even talk because of the nerves, sometimes we go in a group to lunch, she comes with us, I sit close to her (because I think that if I try to talk to her i'll feel more secure in a matter of days) .

But I cannot even say a single word because we have different interests, and I just keep thinking "what should I say what should I say??".

I think that she sees me as a boring person, in one of the few times that I crossed words with her, she asked me " Apart from studying and playing videogames, what else do you do?".

I replied - I Work - ( quite a dumb answer, shes a coworker)

She just said " So bored...."

And I think that at that moment I lost any game with her.

Well then your problem isn't that you're a gamer, it's that you're so nervous around her that you can't even get yourself to say anything.
 
She likes rock music ( I like rock, but I mainly listen to videogame OST's), go to theatre ( I hate that), opera ( I hate that), art (Not my thing), movies ( I like movies too, I think everyone does).

Nothing else that I can think of.

Concert time? I mean if you don't share at least one interest it's going to that much harder to engage her on a topic or do stuff together.
 
She likes rock music ( I like rock, but I mainly listen to videogame OST's), go to theatre ( I hate that), opera ( I hate that), art (Not my thing), movies ( I like movies too, I think everyone does).

Nothing else that I can think of.

So you like nothing that this girl likes? Hobby wise, professional interests, places you both enjoy, food? There's no common ground at all but you think she's awesome? I'm confused.
 
George_us, do you think your trolling in this thread is a good idea? Also do you think it's funny or clever in any way?
 
Talking with them before you decide to just hit them up for a date I guess? Honestly this is where I kind of fail men because I honestly don't know how to seek out certain kinds of women, for obvious reasons. That's why I sometimes recommend hobby type stuff or taking cooking or training classes at the local community college, maybe even yoga or something. Women who are looking to improve themselves or are aren't as shallow are more likely to be in these places than your local club/bar.

I understand where you are coming from too, since it's hard to vet a potential date within a 10-20 minute window at a party or something.

I can say that taking classes does work. I used to be a ballroom dancer and that was great at meeting/vetting girls. I don't dance anymore, mainly because I've been doing it for five years and I got tired of both the people and the scene. I've been thinking of going back to marathon running in the coming new year, so perhaps I'll meet new people there?
 
I understand where you are coming from too, since it's hard to vet a potential date within a 10-20 minute window at a party or something.

I can say that taking classes does work. I used to be a ballroom dancer and that was great at meeting/vetting girls. I don't dance anymore, mainly because I've been doing it for five years and I got tired of both the people and the scene. I've been thinking of going back to marathon running in the coming new year, so perhaps I'll meet new people there?

I don't see why you wouldn't. Also marathon running women have great legs.
 
Some dudes just can't help themselves in here. Dunno what it is. Maybe trolling the GirlGAF thread is too obvious and they think they'll be safe trying that shit in this one.

Well, after a mod warned people about this thread, it was inevitable that would be the outcome.
 
Awkward and uncomfortable question.

Just this week finalized a dissolution of marriage with my now ex-wife. I'm in no hurry to meet another girl but I was just wondering: how would your average lady view a divorced guy?

I'm 27, if that matters.
 
Awkward and uncomfortable question.

Just this week finalized a dissolution of marriage with my now ex-wife. I'm in no hurry to meet another girl but I was just wondering: how would your average lady view a divorced guy?

I'm 27, if that matters.

Are you childless? I wouldn't view the guy in a bad light, just be worried about the baggage he's bringing to the table. But even non-married people have a lot of that, so eh.
 
I understand where you are coming from too, since it's hard to vet a potential date within a 10-20 minute window at a party or something.

I can say that taking classes does work. I used to be a ballroom dancer and that was great at meeting/vetting girls. I don't dance anymore, mainly because I've been doing it for five years and I got tired of both the people and the scene. I've been thinking of going back to marathon running in the coming new year, so perhaps I'll meet new people there?

HIGH FIVE! Ballroom dancing is the shit. I did it for about 4 years then stopped last year. I should really get back into it, so invigorating.
 
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