Bernardougf
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That was the initial plan.. things went terrible wrongif they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only
That was the initial plan.. things went terrible wrongif they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only
To be fair that's from existing agreementsAt least some sort of timed exclusivity or exclusive stuff for Xbox cod players. Instead they bundle the game in ps5s
They still have 8 years before they could legally do any such thing for Call of Duty. They contractually could not do any such thing for the first few of those Bethesda games as well.if they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only
Thought the PlayStation cod agreement ended with modern warfare 3To be fair that's from existing agreements
They tried with Starfield.......if they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only
They were never going to make COD exclusive, they wouldn't have moved enough hardware to make the money they spent worth it, let alone signed up enough new people to gamepass. Even if every person who bought COD on playstation at its peak bought an xbox they would still be 20 million plus behind PS5 sales right now. They make far too much money off of PlayStation to have even made that a consideration, plus they were never going to get every person who owned a PS5 and played COD to dump PlayStation for xbox anyway.They still have 8 years before they could legally do any such thing for Call of Duty. They contractually could not do any such thing for the first few of those Bethesda games as well.
Once the FTC completely fucked their plans for CoD, we started to see the 3rd party pivot. Had that not occurred, they almost certainly would've started to move more hardware, which was/is the only failing metric in the Xbox division. Hard to say how many consoles they could move for CoD, let alone 1/2 way through the gen, but I'm guessing that would compound year over year once people realized they had to have an Xbox or pc to play CoD.
It didThought the PlayStation cod agreement ended with modern warfare 3
They were never going to make COD exclusive, they wouldn't have moved enough hardware to make the money they spent worth it, let alone signed up enough new people to gamepass. Even if every person who bought COD on playstation at its peak bought an xbox they would still be 20 million plus behind PS5 sales right now. They make far too much money off of PlayStation to have even made that a consideration, plus they were never going to get every person who owned a PS5 and played COD to dump PlayStation for xbox anyway.
she means a traditional console."Personally, I think Xbox hardware is dead."
I was surprised to hear her say that. I still think Xbox is going to come out with a high-end hybrid PC/console device in a couple of years. But maybe they'll outsource that, too, like they did the handheld.
she means a traditional console.
So they willingly made a deal to put the latest black ops in with the ps5. Just baffling.It did
not necessarily willingly.... the business is not businessingSo they willingly made a deal to put the latest black ops in with the ps5. Just baffling.
Lmao see that's why sovereign governments have antitrust enforcementif they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only
not necessarily willingly.... the business is not businessing
Thought the PlayStation cod agreement ended with modern warfare 3
It did
Not the same kind of deal.Y'all already forgot about this?
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Sony agrees to 10-year Call of Duty deal with Microsoft
The deal means Microsoft and Sony’s Call of Duty battle is overwww.theverge.com
Which has nothing to do with marketing or console bundles.Y'all already forgot about this?
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Sony agrees to 10-year Call of Duty deal with Microsoft
The deal means Microsoft and Sony’s Call of Duty battle is overwww.theverge.com
lol Xbox lost and msft won. You folks forgot why they entered the industry. Sony has been checked, thus the logical conclusion is Windows expansion.
no, but apparently Xbox did. because they also promised CoD on Nintendo's consoleY'all already forgot about this?
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Sony agrees to 10-year Call of Duty deal with Microsoft
The deal means Microsoft and Sony’s Call of Duty battle is overwww.theverge.com
Its going to be interesting to find out if their next gen console is a traditional console or not.
This video was posted recently. Laura has pretty good insight of the games' industry, and this video sounded really factual and of interest.
no, but apparently Xbox did. because they also promised CoD on Nintendo's console![]()
That wasn't a marketing deal though. Just a deal to keep cod on PlayStation for ten years. They made the same deal with Nintendo.Y'all already forgot about this?
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Sony agrees to 10-year Call of Duty deal with Microsoft
The deal means Microsoft and Sony’s Call of Duty battle is overwww.theverge.com
Once again, it's the leadership that makes the bad decisions, but it's the workers that pay the consequences.
Never understood the layoffs when they are worth $3.4 Trillion
MS as a whole, yes. The Xbox division, not so much.
In the end you won't be succesful if you just go and Ted Beneke your corporation. You need to cut corners and make harsh decisions. MS is going to chop Xbox division if all they do is bleeding money, even if they don't even feel it.
Yes, they are fine. It would be preferable for them if Xbox Series was a success, but it wasn't so better to cut their losses now. Being a huge multiplat publisher is certainly not some horrible end.Xbox (MS), is just fine. PC alone they trump all install bases for any console. They are making a new powerful next gen Xbox, handhelds, and with all their acquisitions this gen their library should grow, AND. those game will generate revenue on other platforms such as Sony, Nintendo, PC, and Xbox consoles.
Xbox division is 9% of Microsoft's revenue, right next to 10% for for windows. It doesn't bleed money at all. ~$24B from a gaming division.
They just got their second-highest holiday period in xbox history last winter. Where are the stats that spell it out that this division requires the axe? I don't see it.
No. Their only goal was to prevent Sony from launching an os and harming windows. That era is gone and gp prevents any open browser. Thus everything is an Xbox; msft out of hardware and Sony is still stuck aka r&d for ps6/7. Nvidia around the corner to remove consoles. Next gen is open vs closed ecosystem. Folks on this site forgot why the pro consoles exist and if oem = nextbox things could be interesting. However Sony will e dominant in console sales.Of course, this was Microsoft's plan all along.
Nothing at all to do with them constantly fucking up since Peter Moore left![]()
After $80 billion spent on studios in a span of a few years, MS CxO and board actually wanted some return on investment.not necessarily willingly.... the business is not businessing
Do you have a bunker at your house? Green rats about to come after you.I thought it was bright?
Kind of like
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Microsoft know that Call of Duty is big on PlayStation & one bad move could birth a Call of Duty replacement in the long run & that would have been bad for their return on investment.At least some sort of timed exclusivity or exclusive stuff for Xbox cod players. Instead they bundle the game in ps5s
Funny enough I doBring itDo you have a bunker at your house? Green rats about to come after you.
In theory it's simple, in practice it would only reduce the sales potential of these IPs by launching them on a console with a small installed base without having a significant return on console sales.if they actually wanted to compete and sell consoles they would have made COD and all bethesda games xbox only