HeisenbergFX4
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So what about the next gen Xbox that is supposed to be releasing in 2026, or 2027 is that dead as well?
[Laura Fryer] The Future of Xbox
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Topher
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So what about the next gen Xbox that is supposed to be releasing in 2026, or 2027 is that dead as well?
Dead? No. DOA? Maybe. Laura Fryer seems to think so.
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RetroGamingUK
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By "day 1" I mean the console's launch
PS5 had already been on the market for nearly 4 years before Microsoft games started to show up.
HeisenbergFX4
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jm89
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What a clown, his getting called out on it.Weasel
And his response your dumb. When his asking dumb question if she built the Xbox one...
SamuraiEdge
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Jezza is having a big ol meltdown and imploding inside, I can feel it.
Love a bit of karma.
Love a bit of karma.
digoutyoursoul
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Yeah as I say to others , the fella is an arrogant prick and phoney. I don't believe he is a fanboy at all, a mouthpiece with a shitty attitude.
If Microsoft had put as much effort into Xbox over the last few years as much as they have using these types of people, the brand might of been better off.
If you are a fan of something you want it do well and do better, you dont act like him and others do unless there are incentives to do so.
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Astray
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It happens every month at least lol.
Next stage of his loop is writing a big cry piece about the bullying he's getting rn.
Angry_Megalodon
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But this is actually the point. I mean, on paper the concept of Starfield is amazing. If well done, it would have been a system seller. The problem is that MS doesnt even try to make games of that quality. Everything is half assed and mediocre.
The richest company in the world could and should invest in talent to make games that you can't play anywhere else. It takes time, money and a great work culture (almost polar opposite of what it is right now) but in the end it would produce results.
MS doesnt want that. They aren't in this hobby out of passion. They are tourists, even after investing billions. That's why they keep failing.
GermanZepp
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FTFY
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nah
Fess
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She just talked about the Ally, nothing about the next gen Xbox.
But she's not using Windows at all, been on Linux since she left, so the harsh reality is that there isn't much there for her in the future of Xbox.
Topher
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She said "personally I think Xbox hardware is dead". Her using Linux doesn't negate her point of view.
pudel
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Didnt she said she is dual booting!? Clever girl!
Topher
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Didnt she said she is dual booting!? Clever girl!
Ah...that's right she did. Not that it matters, but....
" ....Windows is still needed for some games So I created a dual boot machine for those cases"
Basically did the same thing I just recently did. All linux with a Windows drive for the occasional Game Pass game.
pudel
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Yep. I also prefer to keep all my private stuff over at linux. Windows really just for gaming stuff that absolutely doesnt work with linux.
Fess
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I assume she recorded the video ahead of the AMD announcement, otherwise she would've mentioned the next gen Xbox. It's clearly not dead.
The only vague thing that could be related to the next Xbox was using the phrase "this partnership", but I took it as she were talking about the partnership with ASUS rather than the one with AMD considering she only talked about the handheld and them putting stickers on existing hardware.
Regarding Linux she said she uninstalled Windows on all her computers after leaving MS and installed Linux instead. We can pretend that it doesn't affect her reasoning here, but their new strategy is highly Windows focused so what's actually there for her? Play Anywhere doesn't work on Steam versions, Gamepass isn't there.
Topher
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I assume she recorded the video ahead of the AMD announcement, otherwise she would've mentioned the next gen Xbox. It's clearly not dead.
The only vague thing that could be related to the next Xbox was using the phrase "this partnership", but I took it as she were talking about the partnership with ASUS rather than the one with AMD considering she only talked about the handheld and them putting stickers on existing hardware.
Regarding Linux she said she uninstalled Windows on all her computers after leaving MS and installed Linux instead. We can pretend that it doesn't affect her reasoning here, but their new strategy is highly Windows focused so what's actually there for her? Play Anywhere doesn't work on Steam versions, Gamepass isn't there.
Plenty of people think Xbox hardware is "dead" even knowing that new hardware is coming. It is an opinion of the viability of Xbox, not a statement of fact. That's where phrases like "dead on arrival" comes from.
As was pointed out, she still has Windows. Either way, this comes across as trying to discredit her point of view based on her platform of choice. It is the same reasoning of those who believe they are unbiased because they own whatever console. It isn't a valid argument. I have the same primary Linux, secondary Windows set up that she does. So what?
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ChorizoPicozo
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Fess
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Classic FUD, sure that's common. I don't see this happening here. I've rewatched the whole video and I think she's simply talking about the Ally and "Xbox sticker" on existing hardware. Even the description is just about the Ally and Play Anywhere, not a word about AMD.
Cheap shot but so much for her "I've never looked back" comment then heh
Anyhow we factor in people's biases all the time. Should we not?
I just think if she clearly says that she doesn't like Windows then it's a bit naive to think that she will be excited about a Windows focused future. She can be grumpy about what has happened but I really don't see any scenario where she can be excited through their current strategy. It's basically Windows Play Anywhere.
Just means that you're not really the target audience for Microsoft's strategy.
Have you tried the insider Xbox App?
I'm testing it and while I don't like it right now that's clearly what they're doing. One app, a list of all your games in one place, locally installed on different launchers, cloud, Gamepass.
Topher
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Perhaps she is only talking about the Rog Ally stuff. Doesn't really matter. That video about the AMD "partnership" doesn't change much. Obviously she is not saying Xbox is literally dead right now as I type. Xbox Series consoles are still for sale.
Skipping the bias convo. It's irrelevant.
I'm a PC gamer so yes, I am the target, but Microsoft hasn't shown me anything that says "I gotta go back to Windows". No, I haven't tried the app yet, but I plan to. One app, all your games in one place is a problem that was solved a long time ago on Windows, Linux....etc. I'll still check it out though and maybe it will eventually sway me. I'm not bound to any one tech, but windows in general has to make a lot of changes for me to reconsider it as a primary platform.
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IntentionalPun
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Yeah I'm taking a wait and see approach for sure on the product; it sounds interesting... I may buy it... but I'm a PC gamer, so I really don't want some "game mode" that potentially has weak support for "other stores" helping MS gain market share. We've benefited VERY LITTLE from competition in the PC gaming "Store" space. It generally just muddles everything, and historically MS has been the worst in many areas.
So I just don't fully trust their "improving windows for gaming" shpiel at this point. Wait and see.
Sleepwalker
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I think its nice they bundle up all the gay shit so we can skip it.
They lost me a while back.
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Fess
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If you think it's solved a long time ago then why do you have a dual boot?
I have no issues with Windows itself, it just works on both my PCs I use for gaming.
And for the desktop PC I don't need anything, it's already fine.
But for the living room PC I need a good menu that combines all the games I have access to from all the launchers with all the user data in a nice big screen mode.
For me that's not solved at all.
To return to the topic, I can definitely see where she's coming from and why she think Xbox hw are going away.
But I don't agree on that negative outlook.
Maybe traditional consoles are going away, seems likely. But I think getting Windows itself to consoles, and through the OS creator itself with a vision to improve it for gaming and for the living room, will open up a ton of doors previously closed.
People mostly talk about Steam access, cool sure, but it's really everything, all the launchers, all the emulators and mods. In theory it could all be there. The upsides of PC gaming combined with the upsides of console gaming.
Everybody should sense some excitement from that. What's not to like??
Also, if they solve the legacy software problem through some AMD collaboration on hardware, then kudos to them for actually doing that and not just leaving all that behind.
What they plan to do really just needs to be done the right way. That's where my only concern lies. Won't be easy.
CAN Microsoft do it the right way?
That's getting into FUD talk so I choose to think they can until proven otherwise. Glass half full approach.
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vodka-bull
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is it? Or is it the fact that every potato can stream Gamepass? If Gamepass were Xbox exclusive, things would be different.