[Laura Fryer] The Future of Xbox

We've literally talked about this before, more than once. They would have to pay Steam to host the game on their servers and run the download infrastructure for it. Games listed on Steam are bought on Steam and collect 30%. MS does not have to pay that cost for games on their own store, so they are taking the extra hit and listing it twice since they own both stores. They don't have the ability to tell Steam to host their games without any payment.

What are you talking about? The PC versions of their games run on their (Microsoft's) servers regardless of where they are purchased. It can also go the other way round - they could also email you a Microsoft Store key if you've purchased the game on Steam, but they don't.

This string of constant excuses for them is hilarious.

What does this have to do with anything I talked about?


Play Anywhere is not just marketing. You're asking me how many games I have listed in my PC library from Play Anywhere. That means you know it's not just marketing. So what does any of that have to do with evangelizing? Literally nothing. You're just stubborn and defending a stupid gif from @jm89 . Literally nothing but bullshit.

I can only assume that because you're unwilling to stare information regarding the percentage of your owned titles that are play anywhere that it's not looking too hot. Either that or you don't actually buy games like you claim to.

But that fits in with everything else you've been doing in this thread. Can't let people know that it doesn't do what it says on the tin now can we?

Are people seriously complaining that Play Anywhere doesn't mean you get a Steam Key?

Why not? They make us log in to their store when we purchase their games via Steam. So what's the difference to them? If they want to say "play anywhere" then one purchase should grant you keys across all the places the game exists and you should also get access to your progress.

Right now progress for their games is split across Xbox, steam and PS5. If you're going to make us sign in after having to pay for different versions of the same game then at least allow progress to carry. Even Ubisoft have this figured out by now.
 
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I can only assume that because you're unwilling to stare information regarding the percentage of your owned titles that are play anywhere that it's not looking too hot. Either that or you don't actually buy games like you claim to.

But that fits in with everything else you've been doing in this thread. Can't let people know that it doesn't do what it says on the tin now can we?
I'm at work and I don't ever do research for you and your never ending goal post moving requests. What does this have to do with anything I talked about? I've asked 3x.

Pretend the number is literally 1. 1 game. Now say your stupid argument.
 
More BS. I already said to you that Play Anywhere is not comprehensive. They list what is updated on their blog. Merging doesn't mean it's 100% complete coverage. The entire point of Play Anywhere is to merge the Xbox console store with the Windows store as much as they are allowed.

With the AMD devices, it seems like they're going to try and do a hardware BC solution as well. Then the new Windows UI is likely going to display all of it together.

I called people a liar for saying Play Anywhere is just marketing. That is objectively a lie. Look up what marketing is if you can't follow what the word means. Now put "just" before that and explain to me how that's accurate.

While you're in the dictionary, look up evangelize. It means to seek or convert, which I am not. This is a device for a niche audience and I'm not trying to convince anyone to get it. I'm merely correctly straight up inaccurate crap.
it's not BS, it is reality. it's not a merged ecosystem if 1 out of 10 of what is in ecosystem A works in ecosystem B. You can debate whether the number should be 100 or not but it definitely needs to be better than sub-10%. Microsoft is out there saying LITERALLY "THIS IS AN XBOX" so it's reasonable to say "what the fuck, how is it an Xbox if 1 out of 10 Xbox games work on it". This is to say nothing of phones and laptops and VR headsets where it is just a totally different ecosystem with streamshit.

The ROG Ally is not an Xbox, it's a PC, calling it an Xbox is just incorrect and, again, disingenuous. The ecosystems are not merged in any meaningful way.
 
I'm at work and I don't ever do research for you and your never ending goal post moving requests. What does this have to do with anything I talked about? I've asked 3x.

Pretend the number is literally 1. 1 game. Now say your stupid argument.

If its one game then the following doesn't apply to you and thus it's just marketing:

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Again. Single entitlement.

It's the same store you are accessing across two different devices.
It's a console version and a PC version. They're on 2 different stores currently. It's not even the same version of the game.

I actually believe you, my friend.
Well it's true 🤷‍♂️ I multi-task. Really it's the people here camping this thread that can't handle 1 person pointing out the objective fact that Play Anywhere is a dual entitlement program and more than just marketing. This isn't even up for debate, so it's pretty pointless to keep it going like this.
 
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Again. Single entitlement.

It's the same store you are accessing across two different devices.
It's so hilarious and ironic.

The person who was fighting with everyone about how simple it is and criticizing everyone - including Laura Fryer - who said it's becoming confusing, himself does not understand the things Xbox is doing. 😂
 
Could I ask a serious question, people? I have never had a social media, does everyone in the world have a YouTube channel and how the hell do some of you know this many people, or remember them?
 
Getting back to what Laura Fryer said, her point about "Xbox Anywhere" is that the entirety of the Xbox library is not available on the Rog Xbox Ally device. This is what she says:

"Because Xbox Anywhere means that I'm going to be able to play all my Xbox games and PC games on my handheld. And that right there could be a big selling point except it looks like that might not be the case. There's been some confusion on this point but from what I can tell Pure Xbox is correct. You won't be able to play native Xbox games. Only native PC games. This isn't great in my opinion. If Xbox Anywhere means I should be able to play all my games on the handheld device then darn it I want to play all of my games not just my PC games "
 
Getting back to what Laura Fryer said, her point about "Xbox Anywhere" is that the entirety of the Xbox library is not available on the Rog Xbox Ally device. This is what she says:

"Because Xbox Anywhere means that I'm going to be able to play all my Xbox games and PC games on my handheld. And that right there could be a big selling point except it looks like that might not be the case. There's been some confusion on this point but from what I can tell Pure Xbox is correct. You won't be able to play native Xbox games. Only native PC games. This isn't great in my opinion. If Xbox Anywhere means I should be able to play all my games on the handheld device then darn it I want to play all of my games not just my PC games "
If Microsoft never did the "THIS IS AN XBOX" campaign with a bunch of bullshit and just straight up said what they are doing, honestly, just said "we're releasing a PC with Asus and a new Windows interface" then there would be no problem.

It's not like Play Anywhere is new. I bought Quantum Break digital because it was Play Anywhere and that shit is like 10 years old (and the Xbox store version is also objectively worse than the Steam version, go figure). It's just noit really been a factor for anyone because it is so poorly supported and badly done and that still seems to be the case.
 
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Getting back to what Laura Fryer said, her point about "Xbox Anywhere" is that the entirety of the Xbox library is not available on the Rog Xbox Ally device. This is what she says:

"Because Xbox Anywhere means that I'm going to be able to play all my Xbox games and PC games on my handheld. And that right there could be a big selling point except it looks like that might not be the case. There's been some confusion on this point but from what I can tell Pure Xbox is correct. You won't be able to play native Xbox games. Only native PC games. This isn't great in my opinion. If Xbox Anywhere means I should be able to play all my games on the handheld device then darn it I want to play all of my games not just my PC games "
Its important to see the words because many are taking certain liberties with what she actually said and exactly what she knows to be facts
 
I would just like to jump in and point out that the casual public was confused between wii and wii-u. How does ms expect them to not get confused between all these different products and services?
 
I would just like to jump in and point out that the casual public was confused between wii and wii-u. How does ms expect them to not get confused between all these different products and services?
My guess? They don't really expect the casual public to entertain this device and this is more for the loyal fanbase.
 
If Microsoft never did the "THIS IS AN XBOX" campaign with a bunch of bullshit and just straight up said what they are doing, honestly, just said "we're releasing a PC with Asus and a new Windows interface" then there would be no problem.

It's not like Play Anywhere is new. I bought Quantum Break digital because it was Play Anywhere and that shit is like 10 years old (and the Xbox store version is also objectively worse than the Steam version, go figure). It's just noit really been a factor for anyone because it is so poorly supported and badly done and that still seems to be the case.
They also have a cloud component and want people to try Gamepass on firestick. Their marketing campaign is completely fine. Only here do people get this worked up about commercials.

Honestly, with how much people here reference it - I'd go so far as to call it the single most successful gaming advert of the modern era. I've never seen people so fixated on a slogan and a totally meaningless ad campaign from a 3rd place console. The ad company in charge of it needs a raise. It's truly unprecedented. People can't let it go, like it's burned in their brain.
 
Could I ask a serious question, people? I have never had a social media, does everyone in the world have a YouTube channel and how the hell do some of you know this many people, or remember them?
I'm so glad you asked
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This just came across my desk and it's the best thing I've seen all week:
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Seriously though, the inquisitorius still stands, I'm sure this or many of our other brethren(Vara Dark, ect) probably have videos all about this exact thread topic already posted. I would be SHOCKED if Asmon didn't have a Laura Fryer future of Xbox video up by now.
 
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The Windows store on PC is not the same store as the Xbox console store. I don't know why you even have a problem with this point. I really wonder about you sometimes.

You log in with the same account, they have the same backend. For all intents and purposes, it's one single store and therefore one single entitlement for all purchases made.

While I'm flattered that you wonder about me, hopefully you can take a break from lusting over me to figure out the facts surrounding what you've got yourself in to.
 
They also have a cloud component and want people to try Gamepass on firestick. Their marketing campaign is completely fine. Only here do people get this worked up about commercials.

Honestly, with how much people here reference it - I'd go so far as to call it the single most successful gaming advert of the modern era. I've never seen people so fixated on a slogan and a totally meaningless ad campaign from a 3rd place console. The ad company in charge of it needs a raise. It's truly unprecedented. People can't let it go, like it's burned in their brain.
lol yea, ok "rent free", blah blah it still sucks and is retarded and is going to fail.
 
lol yea, ok "rent free", blah blah it still sucks and is retarded and is going to fail.
I look at adverts as annoying. They're jingles that stick in your head, convey a simple message, etc. I hate ads. In that context, this one was honestly probably extremely effective and well done in conveying what they wanted with limited time. It's catchy and tells you "the thing."

But yes, I don't think any of this is really catching on with people and will be for a niche audience.
 
They lost the moment the corpost smelled the money on the Xbox 360. Remember this is the company that though that a good console was something that actually only have netflix, a couple of games and a connection to the DVR back with the Xone. This idea went on multiple meetings and they all agreed it was the way to go.

Now they speak of "Xbox harware" and not "the next Xbox", they killed the brand.
 
They lost the moment the corpost smelled the money on the Xbox 360. Remember this is the company that though that a good console was something that actually only have netflix, a couple of games and a connection to the DVR back with the Xone. This idea went on multiple meetings and they all agreed it was the way to go.

Now they speak of "Xbox harware" and not "the next Xbox", they killed the brand.
All they had to do was drop the damn xbox 720...
 
They lost the moment the corpost smelled the money on the Xbox 360. Remember this is the company that though that a good console was something that actually only have netflix, a couple of games and a connection to the DVR back with the Xone. This idea went on multiple meetings and they all agreed it was the way to go.

Now they speak of "Xbox harware" and not "the next Xbox", they killed the brand.
40 seconds of destruction that started the Xbox demise



 
All they had to do was drop the damn xbox 720...
Even if they realize it, they couldnt. They replaced, brainwashed or simple put to the side all the people that made the good Xbox and Xbox 360 great. Just look at the second half of the X360 life: heavily chasing the market the Wii discovers, trying to appeal to the masses with motion controls, "Not-Miis" that looked that crap, and very tame/lame games.

Maybe they world should have ended on 2012.

40 seconds of destruction that started the Xbox demise





Oh good, I forgot how awful that was. My boy... it is dead.

At least they dont bother project like Insignia that is practically Xbox Live for the OG Xbox, maybe when they manage to recreate some sort of X360 live we can all pretend that MS just got bored after the 360 and abandoned the IP and the game market
 
40 seconds of destruction that started the Xbox demise





And they use it as an excuse to this day with the "worst generation to lose" narrative.

They conveniently forget that thought that you can attract new customers to gaming if the platform is appealing enough. The notion that every single current customer will be indefinitely tied to one product doesn't wash either.

If they had enough compelling content last generation they wouldn't have done as badly as they did. It was excuse after excuse and when you compare it to Sony content , it was embarrassing to be honest.
 
Honestly, with how much people here reference it - I'd go so far as to call it the single most successful gaming advert of the modern era. I've never seen people so fixated on a slogan and a totally meaningless ad campaign from a 3rd place console. The ad company in charge of it needs a raise. It's truly unprecedented. People can't let it go, like it's burned in their brain.

Here's another campaign and product referenced (and laughed at) a lot

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Their messaging around "play anywhere" and what this actually means, is getting heavily misinterpreted. It's their own fault for their shocking level of communication and marketing. Even in that video, I think she wasn't even fully understanding it. Which is a massive problem.
 
Their messaging around "play anywhere" and what this actually means, is getting heavily misinterpreted. It's their own fault for their shocking level of communication and marketing. Even in that video, I think she wasn't even fully understanding it. Which is a massive problem.

In the video, she is actually highlighting the confusion around Play Anywhere and the fact that folks very well may think they are getting all their Xbox console games "anywhere" but that's not the case.
 
It says on news.xbox.com that Microsoft is making future first party consoles.


Laura Fryer was in charge of gears of war, right? I don't know where the idea that MS Xbox was officially going full on software-only started. Spencer said in an interview that there would always be MS Xbox hardware, the implication was for the foreseeable future I believe.
 
It says on news.xbox.com that Microsoft is making future first party consoles.


Laura Fryer was in charge of gears of war, right? I don't know where the idea that MS Xbox was officially going full on software-only started. Spencer said in an interview that there would always be MS Xbox hardware, the implication was for the foreseeable future I believe.

She's in this Gears documentary

 
It says on news.xbox.com that Microsoft is making future first party consoles.


Laura Fryer was in charge of gears of war, right? I don't know where the idea that MS Xbox was officially going full on software-only started. Spencer said in an interview that there would always be MS Xbox hardware, the implication was for the foreseeable future I believe.

It started because people simply do not believe a word that comes out of their mouth. They've intentionally tried to mislead people for a very long time now and people just don't trust them.
 
And the imaginary public owns an Xbox.
He asked about the casual public. Numbers don't lie. I sold my Series X when GS gave me over $400 for my launch console. The writing is on the wall. This is the 1st time since the OG Xbox I have not owned their console. They needed to correct course years ago, and Phil kept pointing the ship towards the rocks right next to the whirlpool. Leadership failed the Xbox brand, and its why people like me no longer believe in their hardware business and see through their lies.
 
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