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Jag
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I don't (I'm in-house), but it's an area that you'll always be able to get a job and eventually be able to open up your own practice, which is probably the only way to make any serious money.
It's typically a mill type environment where you will get a bulk of cases to handle. They make money on volume so you are expected to churn cases. I don't see the experience translating to many other fields (maybe insurance defense?)
But a job's a job and working somewhere is better than not being employed at all since it's always easier to get a job when you already have one.
It's typically a mill type environment where you will get a bulk of cases to handle. They make money on volume so you are expected to churn cases. I don't see the experience translating to many other fields (maybe insurance defense?)
But a job's a job and working somewhere is better than not being employed at all since it's always easier to get a job when you already have one.
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Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Nut shell it for us.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I'm not familiar with consumer rights law. But I can't see how EA knowingly shipping a buggy product as playable, which it isn't, is reasonable. It could turn into something but if not, at least it will be a legal writing class brief exercise. That's how I learned about fair use! And mineral rights. Ugh, mineral rights...
Figure out relevant law, cases, proper arguments, similar examples. Could be fun.
Figure out relevant law, cases, proper arguments, similar examples. Could be fun.
I meant nutshell the problem with the game.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
It just doesn't run in multiplayer. At all. I know games have issues at launch. Server issues and inability to handle capacity. But BF4 is just unplayable. It'll crash during games, you can't connect reliably, some modes don't work period. I've been gaming for forever and the poor state of this game is historic.
I suspect EA shipped it buggy and knowingly, figuring they could patch it later.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I studied for three or four hours the night before.
WonkyPanda
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Wait, are MPRE results out? I'm not seeing it.
Oh, man. I've got bad news for you...
ZackieChan
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20 minutes until bar results here in CA. 20 loooooong minutes.
Edit: Passed! I am now a California attorney!
Edit: Passed! I am now a California attorney!
Random Painted HIghway
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Hilarious blog post by on psu law.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/11/the-end-of-dickinson
What a cluster. Would hate to be a new grad and see 1ls get 20k off per year.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/11/the-end-of-dickinson
What a cluster. Would hate to be a new grad and see 1ls get 20k off per year.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
To get the feel of a firm, yes. It's not a bad idea. You can also see what lawyers do, especially if you find a good mentor. Plus, being a paralegal means no huge commitments. You don't need a certain degree to do it. Major in what you want to do or as a backup to law school.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
My answer is going to depend on where you went to undergrad, what your grades were and what your LSAT score is going to be.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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that's what I did for 2 years before heading to law school. Experience the law office life if it's actually something for you.
Plus, great networking opportunity with attorneys outside of the office and it could lead to future employment. That same firm I worked as a paralegal kept on as a law clerk during summers/winters and has offered me an associate position after the bar next summer.
Pollux
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3 finals and a paper in the next 72 hours. Terrible course planning last semester.
Been interning at a prosecutor's office for a year if that counts.
Been interning at a prosecutor's office for a year if that counts.
ZackieChan
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Once you take the bar, you'll have fond memories of exam time! Good luck!
Pollux
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Not of this one...professor forgot to mention the word limit on the actual exam. Over an hour into the exam, pretty much everyone in the class is at least 1,500 words in on question 1, I was around 2,200, one of the proctors comes in and mentions..."oh yeah, the just found out...word limit on question 1 is 600 words and 2 and 3 are 300 words"
I almost threw my laptop at her.
Jag
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Laptop? Man, I am old.
Were you hired as an ASA? Are you going through the interview process now?
Pollux
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Going into my last semester of school. Will be applying there and other places in the spring.
Ello Ello Law School/Lawyer GAF, I'm in my third year of University at the moment, but I want to take the LSAT next year in November so I'm going to begin studying for my LSAT now. What resources should I buy in my quest to master the demon that is the LSAT? I've got the Powerscores logic game bible and the powerscore logical reasoning bible in my cart from amazon right now. Should be enough right? If anyone has any other resources they used and that proved helpful to them please mention them to me!! In terms of studying Ive heard simply timed LSAT practice tests where you reproduce the time limits and breaks that will be applied when doing the real lsat is the way to study. Thanks guys.
Byakuya769
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I wouldn't think you need much else, but studying a year in advance seems excessive and could lead to burn out.
Don't forget the lsat blog:
http://lsatblog.blogspot.ca/p/month-lsat-study-schedules-plans.html
Obviously ymmv but personally I spent very little time doing full tests, and more on doing questions by type ("drilling") to try and absorb the patterns. The lsat blog has all the LR questions broken up by type, and same for all games too. The reason I spent very little time doing full tests is they drain a lot of energy and I just wasn't sure how effective they were.
What helped me a lot was doing full tests in semi loud environments, like a study hall. This trained me to tune out all distractions and come test day I was so focused I barely remembered what happened in the room.
I also didn't do that well (164) so you should take what I said with a grain of salt lol.
Start studying about three months out. Take a full test every two weeks. Full test means a timed test simulating test conditions, including break. In between these "progress checks", focus on the patterns as mentioned. Identify the type of questions you are struggling with and drill down on those.
Take a full test every week for 4 weeks before the test. Worked for me.
Also,
What a douche statement.
Take a full test every week for 4 weeks before the test. Worked for me.
Also,
What a douche statement.
A friend of mine is trying to apply for an LL.M degree at an American university. We know that some of them, like Harvard, have already passed, but others are still open.
I'd like to ask, is there anyone here that has experience with these application procedures? More in particular, we could use some help in writing a good personal statement. It would be fantastic if one of you would be willing to give the current draft a read through, even just to check for structure and correct vocabulary/grammar.
I'd like to ask, is there anyone here that has experience with these application procedures? More in particular, we could use some help in writing a good personal statement. It would be fantastic if one of you would be willing to give the current draft a read through, even just to check for structure and correct vocabulary/grammar.
Byakuya769
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K, law school scam has been good for getting more people to realize how hard it is to get a law job that is worth the investment. However, kind of getting tired of the snarky predictions of legal sector armageddon where only fools think they'll be able to keep the job they already have.
Advocatus Diaboli
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I'm applying for an LL.M. at Georgetown right now, so I can provide an assist on the procedures. However, the schools always have different application guidelines for U.S.-trained lawyers and foreign lawyers. Send me a PM and I'd be happy to have a look at the personal statement, though.
Thanks man, sent you a PM.
SouSouRocket
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Yo, I'm so sorry I missed this! This thread disappears from my radar for months at a time sometimes since it moves so slowly.
I haven't really caught up on the thread but I'll chime in on these two posts.
I agree with this assessment. If none of these things apply, the opportunity cost of going to law school will most likely outweigh actually going to law school. Especially if it's not from a top university, a JD does little to make you more employable than a bachelors.
I agree with this assessment. If none of these things apply, the opportunity cost of going to law school will most likely outweigh actually going to law school. Especially if it's not from a top university, a JD does little to make you more employable than a bachelors.
I want to add that even those applying to top-tier schools need to appreciate the immense financial cost and the lack of guarantee for employment (or employment you may want).
A great idea to get a feel for what the practice of law is all about.
brucewaynegretzky
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::raises hand::
Advocatus Diaboli
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Me too.
Well, I suppose it's quasi-traditional, in that I joined the military instead (and do practice law about 5% of the time, sort of), at least until I'm force shaped out due to budget cuts.
Vincent Alexander
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Random question: is there a legal GAF OT where I can seek legal advice? I'm looking all over and can't seem to find one...curious if anyone here knows as I have a question about changing a minor's name in IL without a biological parent's consent.
I have friends who went to law school with me who are now:
- a bartender
- hostess at a restaurant
- real estate agent
- started an online business
- dog walker
- went to business school
etc etc
Jag
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It's viable, but expensive. That's also three years of working experience you aren't earning (unless you do the night or part time thing). As others have said, I know plenty of people that ended up in a non-legal or quasi-legal jobs after law school. The education and training is fairly useful, but whether it's worthwhile will be hard to determine in advance.
Wonder who is happiest now
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The fun of litigating against a large firm.
Yesterday - I get a call from the senior attorney on a case that he's not going to oppose our request for a continuance and that he wants to work on settling the case.
Today - I get a 35 page vigorous opposition from the associate. We call him and ask "WTF?" and he's like, "oh, I never talked to either the client, the insurer or the senior partner so I just went ahead and wrote this huge opposition and filed it."
Yesterday - I get a call from the senior attorney on a case that he's not going to oppose our request for a continuance and that he wants to work on settling the case.
Today - I get a 35 page vigorous opposition from the associate. We call him and ask "WTF?" and he's like, "oh, I never talked to either the client, the insurer or the senior partner so I just went ahead and wrote this huge opposition and filed it."
DoktorEvil
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So I have a strong interest in becoming a lawyer or at least going to law school.
I live on the East Coast near NYC, and knowing a bit about the costs associated with Law school, have not made the plunge yet.
Knowing all that, would it be wiser to go to a lesser law school to save money? Does the ranking system really matter? Is it all purely networking and having well known alums at reach?
I'm so frustrated with all of these admissions officers and alums telling me about the luxurious 6 figure salary I will make, but they won't tell me what I have to do to get to that point.
I live on the East Coast near NYC, and knowing a bit about the costs associated with Law school, have not made the plunge yet.
Knowing all that, would it be wiser to go to a lesser law school to save money? Does the ranking system really matter? Is it all purely networking and having well known alums at reach?
I'm so frustrated with all of these admissions officers and alums telling me about the luxurious 6 figure salary I will make, but they won't tell me what I have to do to get to that point.
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