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kiunchbb

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How did I miss this



I put some tips in, at the very end! I even scattered them throughout.

Some tips:

-Don't buy item based on Riot in-game recommendation, those are meant to test if new player is worthy of the game. Get it from mobafire instead.

-Look at minimap often, even in middle of team fight or farming, you might see enemy ambushing or flanking your support/carry in the back.

-Buy ward

-Fuck you're build, just buy ward.

-Don't leave base with more than 475 golds if you have empty slots, instead of saving it for expensive item, buy a doran/pot/ward, it will return your investment.

-Achtius will always be in shower, don't bother asking him to play

-Don't auto attack creep during early lane, just last hit

-Balance creep wave so it is close to your tower, but outside of its tower range.

-Last hit at tower range:
Melee creep, last hit after 2 tower hit
Caster creep, 1 auto attack, 1 tower hit, then last hit

-Farm

-Farm

-Kiunch's Eve is awesome, if Kiunch failed a tower dive, its the team fault, always.

-SummonInTrouble always ping retreat, even when your winning.

-Farm

-SweetTooth will rage at you if you do bad

-SoutherDragon will rage at himself if he does bad, ask him to play Yorick if you want to see him rage.

-75% of Gaf afk in chat room, a premade 5 vs 5 is impossible unless we have at least 25 people online.

-Only let Ferrio play Riven

-If you play less than 3 champions, in premade draft mode, GAF will ban all of your champ for easy win. WE SERIOUS

-If you play a theme premade game with GAF (ex. Yordle vs Giant), one side will always cheat and pick their best character.

-Don't talk trash back to your opponent unless your 100% sure you going to win.

All I can remember for now =/
 

Achtius

Member
Some tips:

-Don't leave base with more than 475 golds if you have empty slots, instead of saving it for expensive item, buy a doran/pot/ward, it will return your investment.

Unless you are dying a lot, don't stack doran. Always pick up a ward tho if you leave with more than 75 gold. Buy potions to if you are in a lane without a support to heal you. 1 pot is roughly the equivalent of last hitting a minion


-Achtius will always be in shower, don't bother asking him to play
The classic Achitus maneuver

-Kiunch's Eve is awesome, if Kiunch failed a tower dive, its the team fault, always.

Kiunch eve, best eve

-SummonInTrouble always ping retreat, even when your winning.
He also runs away even if you are winning

-75% of Gaf afk in chat room, a premade 5 vs 5 is impossible unless we have at least 25 people online.

GAFker

I recognize most of the names, but who is that champ at the end there?

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Idunno who she is either, but apparently i brought her before. :O

she is acutally the second champ i brought in lol, and she carried me to lvl 30
 

Flare

Member
-If you play less than 3 champions, in premade draft mode, GAF will ban all of your champ for easy win. WE SERIOUS
This doesn't happen to me anymore, HA! Also, you forgot one. Buy wards.

I love Kiunch's 1v4 dives, they're hilarious. Especially when he manages to get out alive :O

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Idunno who she is either, but apparently i brought her before. :O
I was under the impression you owned more champs than that... why are we so poor =(
 

kiunchbb

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I'm trying to win games, not dunk.

Hate to post two games in a row but c'mon, this was ridiculous:
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I hate that fizz so much, jump jump ignite dead fox, jump jump sheen proc dead fox, that happened 6 times straight.

Felt good to get carry by my team, it's like my feeding is part of the grand master plan for ultimate victory.
 

broz0rs

Member
Some tips:

-Don't auto attack creep during early lane, just last hit

this is probably the most important basic rule in the game.

another tip:

use custom game to practice. set it at 1v1 and choose a bot as your opponent. you can test builds, jungle openings, and last hitting practice. this is the equivalent of a training mode. you can quit any time, even thought it will give you one of those warnings, but there's absolutely no penalty.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
I hate that fizz so much, jump jump ignite dead fox, jump jump sheen proc dead fox, that happened 6 times straight.

Felt good to get carry by my team, it's like my feeding is part of the grand master plan for ultimate victory.
That Fizz had over 4k games played, kind of hard to compete with a tough lane like that.

Somewhat related, but I was looking through LeagueofStats and it tracks how well you do with people on your friends list. I'm not sure how up to date or accurate it is, but this is some pretty serious Voltron stuff:
O9sJs.png
 

Ferga

Member
GALIO!!!!!!!

I've been wanting to buy him for a month now but the new champs look so good so i don't think i'll ever be able to get him :\
 

bjaelke

Member
Almost won a game with Twitch, Karma and AP Ezreal on my team. Almost.
Man, it's going to be done tomorrow, no question about it. This last part is so ANNOYING though.

Take your time.

Edit: Looks like I'm just having a bad day. Enemy team with 4 x Guardian Angels. They were so tanky at the end, that I felt insignificant in the team fights. Sona kept getting caught out of position. Irelia would farm top all day and eventually teleport if there was a fight happening. Just look at that farm >_<

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Anybody know of a really good jungling guide?

so far I'm interested in learning how to jungle properly with Yi and Tryndamere.

Like, what rune builds, masteries, items, and sequence, etc.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Anybody know of a really good jungling guide?

so far I'm interested in learning how to jungle properly with Yi and Tryndamere.

Like, what rune builds, masteries, items, and sequence, etc.
Hard to find many guides lately that properly reflect the new jungle.

Runes are pretty open to preference. If you're still learning you should take armor yellows. Reds can be Armor Pen or Attack Speed (Attack Speed tends to win out). Blues suck no matter what so take what you want with them (I like Cooldown Reduction because it has the most value, but you can get more early game out of something like attack speed). Quints again are choice. Attack Speed/Armor Pen/Move Speed are all good choices.

I find this mastery set to be the most beneficial to offensively oriented melee junglers:
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Items depend. Yi can start armor and five pots if you really want to play it safe, but realistically the best start on both Yi and Trynd is the Vampiric Scepter. Build Wriggles from there. Buy basic boots early on your first back but don't upgrade until Wriggles is done. Not a big Trynd player so I can't speak too in depth about his build, but for Yi after Wriggles the build order I tend to use is Beserker's Greaves, Youmuu's, Warmog's, Atma's. Build last item as the game calls for and go tankier if you are dying (MR if their mages are out of control) or damage if you're pulling ahead. Yi has low survivability, so you have to build him with a mix of tankiness in order to get your damage off.

Only route for champions who use mana is just Wolves -> Blue -> Wraiths -> Golems -> Red if you want to gank somewhat early. If you want an easier route start at Blue and get a leash, this can help open up earlier ganking opportunities as well because you'll have more health. After that clear the jungle as needed and available, and take advantage of red buff to gank. If you know a lane is warded don't be afraid to pop your ult in the river to come in extra fast.
 

bjaelke

Member
You can start with Doran's Blade on Tryndamere. Runes are attack damage marks (+8.5), armor penetration quintessences (+9.5) and standard glyphs/seals. With the new masteries (those Dance In My Blood listed) you can gank at level 2 (red buff) with more than half health and crit for >200 damage. Wraiths -> Golems -> Lizard -> Gank or Wraiths (->Wolves -> Blue Golem).

You don't need any help to pull that off, so you can test it alone if you feel like it.
 
Awesome, thanks for the tips!

I'll try out Tryndamere first, since I have more experience with him. I haven't really used him since after the rage buff/nerf, lol
 
I now own every champ. God I've put so much money into this "free" game.

That comic posted earlier fits me perfectly :(

Ever since I completed my rune sets I've been buying the champs from cheapest to most expensive IP-wise. I'm still on the 1350IP guys but I've got 35 total.

The only champs I ever bought full price were Xerath and Kog'Maw because when I have an artillery character I can more easily carry my ranked teams. This also allows me to blame them for everything that goes wrong since it is never my fault when I lose.
 
Hmm, I already have health seals from a while back, should I just go straight up vamp scepter then? assuming my runes are:

DMG marks / HP seals / Cooldown Glyphs / Armour Pen quints
 

Vanillalite

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Items depend. Yi can start armor and five pots if you really want to play it safe, but realistically the best start on both Yi and Trynd is the Vampiric Scepter. Build Wriggles from there. Buy basic boots early on your first back but don't upgrade until Wriggles is done. Not a big Trynd player so I can't speak too in depth about his build, but for Yi after Wriggles the build order I tend to use is Beserker's Greaves, Youmuu's, Warmog's, Atma's. Build last item as the game calls for and go tankier if you are dying (MR if their mages are out of control) or damage if you're pulling ahead. Yi has low survivability, so you have to build him with a mix of tankiness in order to get your damage off.

Only route for champions who use mana is just Wolves -> Blue -> Wraiths -> Golems -> Red if you want to gank somewhat early. If you want an easier route start at Blue and get a leash, this can help open up earlier ganking opportunities as well because you'll have more health. After that clear the jungle as needed and available, and take advantage of red buff to gank. If you know a lane is warded don't be afraid to pop your ult in the river to come in extra fast.

IDK I still go all attack speed. Key here is after I build wriggles, boots, phantom dancer, and ghost blade I try and build starks. So the extra LS from that on top of wriggles keeps me alive with my insane attack speed from items + Ulty. Plus he gets the extra static movement boost from the PD so you can haul ass around the map later on in game especially if you have flash/ghost + ghost blade + Ulty.

Key IMO if you want to get as many hits in on an enemy in the short times possible while your E is still proc'ed so you get the double AD damage. Then just chain your Ulty with the kills.

Main problem Yi use to have is his mana usage SUCKED early game, but they ended up buffing that during the Voli patch by reducing mana costs. Now he's way easier to play.
 

bjaelke

Member
Hmm, I already have health seals from a while back, should I just go straight up vamp scepter then? assuming my runes are:

DMG marks / HP seals / Cooldown Glyphs / Armour Pen quints

Tryndamere is a pretty safe jungler. You can start with Vamp and build that into a Wriggle's Lantern later on. It only hinters your early gank potential, which is why I recommended Doran's Blade.

You should probably go with armor seals to compensate for the lack of Cloth Armor in your early build. You can also go Boots + 3 x Potions.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Hmm, I already have health seals from a while back, should I just go straight up vamp scepter then? assuming my runes are:

DMG marks / HP seals / Cooldown Glyphs / Armour Pen quints
If you are running that rune set you should probably start cloth armor and pots. Trynd is best with early ganks, so I would also say the recommendation for a Doran's Blade from bjaelke is the optimal opening if you can grab an easy level two with it.
IDK I still go all attack speed. Key here is after I build wriggles, boots, phantom dancer, and ghost blade I try and build starks. So the extra LS from that on top of wriggles keeps me alive with my insane attack speed from items + Ulty. Plus he gets the extra static movement boost from the PD so you can haul ass around the map later on in game especially if you have flash/ghost + ghost blade + Ulty.

Key IMO if you want to get as many hits in on an enemy in the short times possible while your E is still proc'ed so you get the double AD damage. Then just chain your Ulty with the kills.

Main problem Yi use to have is his mana usage SUCKED early game, but they ended up buffing that during the Voli patch by reducing mana costs. Now he's way easier to play.
I don't feel like I could seriously play Yi this way. It's just too risky to rely on lifesteal to keep you alive on a melee glass cannon. It's not uncommon to have to run from a situation, or to be unable to get an auto-attack in because you can't close the gap at that moment.

Building all of one stat can seriously hamper your play as it doesn't really stack all that well. In most situations it behooves you to diversify your stats to maximize their cost effectiveness. Even if you build Yi tanky your DPS can go unrivaled, and it allows you to stay in combat longer and not have to wait for the fight to be almost over to enter the fray. It's important for the jungler to be the backbone for a team, and that includes being a part of team fights once the game shifts to that. Having a good transition into end game is important, and I don't really see how melee glass cannons who rely on always being in melee range fit into that.
 
dears, I used to play DotA for 6 years until I gave up two years ago. I bought HoN last year and gave up after 3 months. Flaming players.

I picked up LoL the day before yesterday, and although my W/L is 4/2, I should say it is really good!

Please welcome me!
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
If you are running that rune set you should probably start cloth armor and pots. Trynd is best with early ganks, so I would also say the recommendation for a Doran's Blade from bjaelke is the optimal opening if you can grab an easy level two with it.

I don't feel like I could seriously play Yi this way. It's just too risky to rely on lifesteal to keep you alive on a melee glass cannon. It's not uncommon to have to run from a situation, or to be unable to get an auto-attack in because you can't close the gap at that moment.

Building all of one stat can seriously hamper your play as it doesn't really stack all that well. In most situations it behooves you to diversify your stats to maximize their cost effectiveness. Even if you build Yi tanky your DPS can go unrivaled, and it allows you to stay in combat longer and not have to wait for the fight to be almost over to enter the fray. It's important for the jungler to be the backbone for a team, and that includes being a part of team fights once the game shifts to that. Having a good transition into end game is important, and I don't really see how melee glass cannons who rely on always being in melee range fit into that.

Your always in range because of your movement speed. Once you build out boots + pd your stock movement speed is extremely fast. That's not counting your q to engage with, your ulty which makes you super insanely fast, and your ghost blade + flash or ghost.

If you can't always be in melee range with that it's more of a you problem IMO(not you specifically just general you). Plus that build gives you team utility in team fights with Starks Aura for all.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Putting a chat message with a green or pink ping saying someone has placed a ward might be nice to have, especially if it was an option that could be turned off.

As for the jungle, I still feel like about 75% of the time that GAF has a jungler and the other team doesn't, since the jungle mastery changes, GAF loses. Of course presumably 75% of that 75%, I'm the jungler and I'm terrible, but still. I have been trying to do jungle Gangplank but I can't nail down a route for sure, and if I do try to rush a route and buy shoes or something, it means everyone is level 3-4 and/or gave first blood before I have a legitimate gank chance.

Last night I had a terrible gangplank game (10 deaths, nearly unheard of for me, nearly caught up to Kiunch levels of deaths though he still beat me that game) in the jungle, and we basically only won because of the most perfectly timed lag I have ever seen. They had wukong, katarina, and nunu for crazy AOE ult power, but at least 3 of their team suddenly froze/lagged at exactly the same time right as a fight was starting, and we got 3 turrets almost immediately. They came back and respawned and we didn't win immediately, but the momentum changed completely and it was basically over after that point.
 

Boken

Banned
When are those Shen changes coming?
Probably "when they're ready" (tm). In my opinion though, theres a high chance it'd be soon (next patch or after) since the changes weren't game breaking.

As for the jungle, I still feel like about 75% of the time that GAF has a jungler and the other team doesn't, since the jungle mastery changes, GAF loses.
You have to have your best player take the 1v2 lane. 1v2 isn't exactly an easy thing to do. Blind pick doesn't help either, since you'd like a champion who can 1v2.

Flaming players made you leave? Well it was nice knowing you!

Best idea ever: Motivational Wards
This is funny.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Your always in range because of your movement speed. Once you build out boots + pd your stock movement speed is extremely fast. That's not counting your q to engage with, your ulty which makes you super insanely fast, and your ghost blade + flash or ghost.

If you can't always be in melee range with that it's more of a you problem IMO(not you specifically just general you). Plus that build gives you team utility in team fights with Starks Aura for all.
In theory you are always in range, in practice this is never the case. Hard CC exists all over LoL, and so do dashes, dodges, and other tricks that loads of champions have as a means of escaping or turning the tables.

Then you have to look at a variety of situations. What happens when you are at a stand off against a champion with strong poke? Or in a teamfight where you can easily be bursted down during a CC? I think it's unrealistic to expect lifesteal alone is enough to keep you alive, particularly on glass cannon champs.

Part of being able to do damage is staying alive to do that. No other champion pretends they can get by on just lifesteal to live. I just don't see the viability of a build like that outside of pub stomping.
As for the jungle, I still feel like about 75% of the time that GAF has a jungler and the other team doesn't...
This is only a bad thing sometimes because GAF always plays blind pick and sometimes runs low sustain tops without teleport. Once you know how to 1v2 a lane and last hit under the tower it is remarkably easy, and you could only take half of the creep wave and still come out ahead of the lane with two. If the other team has no jungler they are giving up tons of buff control, and the mid and bottom lanes can push with little fear of any surprises.

And you don't really need a route to jungle anymore. Kill stuff that's up and put pressure on lanes. Jungling isn't something that's very rigid anymore.
 

Blizzard

Banned
And you don't really need a route to jungle anymore. Kill stuff that's up and put pressure on lanes. Jungling isn't something that's very rigid anymore.
That's what one would think, but when I try unorthodox routes and such I always end up with no health, no mana, no gold, 3 levels behind, that sort of thing. I feel like with gangplank I either need to rush the jungle as quickly as possible (losing most of my health in the process and/or using up all my health potions by the time I finish golems), without ganking, or else I'm behind on levels and hugely behind on gold...unless I go sit in someone's lane after ganking (which probably failed), and then I'm stealing their XP. It's even worse if your mid person is someone who wants blue buff for the mana, since Gangplank has so little. Sheen helps eventually but I'm currently trying to build it after infinity edge which means it's like 5k-6k gold into the game, and the game is 60% over, before I get ANY mana help.

Mana regen runes is one of the standard answers, but presumably they don't regenerate much, and/or don't regenerate much early on unless you get flat mana regen (and everyone will tell you to get per level mana regen, even though early levels are when mana is more of an issue).

If I were using a 21/9/0 mastery set instead of 21/0/9 it would be even worse since blue would run out more quickly.
 

Ferrio

Banned
That Fizz had over 4k games played, kind of hard to compete with a tough lane like that.

Somewhat related, but I was looking through LeagueofStats and it tracks how well you do with people on your friends list. I'm not sure how up to date or accurate it is, but this is some pretty serious Voltron stuff:
O9sJs.png


Man, we need to duo queue ranked....
 

Achtius

Member
Somewhat related, but I was looking through LeagueofStats and it tracks how well you do with people on your friends list. I'm not sure how up to date or accurate it is, but this is some pretty serious Voltron stuff:
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Not sure how that works, because when I checked mine, it say i played only 7 games with bind, but I am pretty sure I played WAY more than that.

we played at least 70 games together. XD
 

Blizzard

Banned
Not sure how that works, because when I checked mine, it say i played only 7 games with bind, but I am pretty sure I played WAY more than that.

we played at least 70 games together. XD
Yeah it shows very few games. It claims I have won 100% of the games I have played with ufokidd or J Rizzle, but it says there are only 8 of each. Maybe it only started tracking recently?
 

Ferrio

Banned
Yeah it shows very few games. It claims I have won 100% of the games I have played with ufokidd or J Rizzle, but it says there are only 8 of each. Maybe it only started tracking recently?


Ya just check myself, it isn't that it just tracked recently, because it's all screwed up on my end. That's disappointing.

Neat to see a breakdown of who my best chars in rank are though.
 
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