Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
C'mon, you can do better than that. I'm sure you have some stories.
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Leaked studio plans for Freddy vs Jason vs Ash 2. Micheal Myers not a good fit
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C'mon, you can do better than that. I'm sure you have some stories.
BlackBanditSho
Member
I wish I could find the Frank Miller quote where he predicted exactly this.
Sorry, but Freddy breaking the 4th wall was done a long time before FvsJ. Dude wore a fucking Power Glove in Freddy's Dead..,
Count Dookkake
Member
Why must they open these old wounds?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Wait, what did you do at AICN?
Or did you used to work at whatever weird thrift shop/pawn shop/collectible museum he & his dad used to run?
plagiarize
Banned
Kane isn't even Jason in the best movies. He tried to make the character his own (and I have a soft spot for Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X), but he isn't Jason in the way that Robert Englund is Freddy.
I don't see what FvJ would have gained from having Kane Hodder in it. There was nothing wrong with the realization of Jason in the movie as far as I can see, and wanting to make sure Jason was more physically imposing when stood next to Freddy always seemed like a good call.
Robert Englund is a good actor. He is good in other movies too.
Dude... maybe when I have time I'll make a thread.
I worked on his terrible web series.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I'm still hoping that we see Peter Jackson's Elm Street movie at some point, the concept sounded fantastic.
Do you really want Freddy running around in green screens?
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
In what way wasn't the entire Freddy's Dead a mistake?
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
The one with people going into the dreams to beat up Freddy? The main character was a cop?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Yea, I just loved the idea of him slowly regaining his power when one of the kids falls into a coma.
I wasn't suggesting he do it, just that someone makes his idea for it.
That might be the first film that I was old enough to be disappointed by. Batman and Robin then showed me true pain a few years later.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
Not a fan of JGTH. But have a soft spot for Jason X.
Kane Hodder was the actor playing Jason up to that point for 4 movies. He was also known by name by many fans. He also really wanted to play the part. Even if some fans don't like his portrayed, the hulking, heavy breathing, nonstoppable Jason that many knew the character as was Kane.
I don't see a single sound reason that trumps that.
If he wanted the part, he should have gotten it. Ronny Yu's "I want him to be like Frankenstein with platform boots" shouldn't have carried any weight in the discussion.
Fancyarcher
Member
Not sure why they're so insistent on having Ash in there. As much as I love the Evil Dead, his character is not in the same league as Freddy & Jason when it comes to name recognition. That and I'm not even sure if Evil Dead existing in the same universe as Nightmare or Friday The 13th, unless it involved Ash getting sent through another dimension or something, which I suppose could work, but hey the studios are gonna use some much bigger bullshit reasoning instead.
Their were plans to do a sequel actually, but I believe they fell into development hell, when New Line couldn't get a new director to make the sequel.
Their were plans to do a sequel actually, but I believe they fell into development hell, when New Line couldn't get a new director to make the sequel.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Oh man. Yeah, I wanna hear those stories. If I remember correctly, he didn't really plan that whole thing too well and might have mishandled kickstarter funds to a serious degree?
Something like that.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Sure it should have. He was the director and he wanted to go in another direction.
Hodder wanting the role doesnt automatically qualify him for it when he doesnt fit the directors vision.
I actually agree with Yu here. A short, squat Jason just wouldnt have worked next to tall, lanky Freddy. Making Jason a hulking badass worked well in what they did.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Having read the document at the top, the whole thing seemed reasonable to me, at least no more unreasonable than JvF was anyway. It makes sense as he is one of the few horror icons that's actually a good guy.
I will hold you to that
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
I have this rule that I think horror movies should live by; Our world but with one supernatural exception.
A guy being able to kill you in your dreams is that exception. A boy drowning but returning from the dead to take revenge is that exception. The soul of a criminal making a doll come to live is that exception.
Giving people the possibility to go into dreams and such breaks that for me. That's why I don't like the premiss of Dream Warriors. That the kids have powers in their dreams (for some reason) breaks the rule of one (exception).
That is also why I don't like Pet Sematary (not counting the bad acting and bad script) - that kid coming back as a ghost guiding the characters in the film. The supernatural exception is the Pet Sematary where dead things comes back to life. A ghost-boy is one thing too much.
Uninteresting rant. Sorry. Buy anyways.
Wasn't a fan of the Jackson idea (if I remember it correctly). I want my horror films basic. And the NOES series should have gone back to basics. Too bad it instead got killed off.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
What we got was a tall, lanky Jason with platform shoes. And calling Kane Hodder not intimidating/hulking badass is pretty silly. Jason never felt bigger and more of a crazy natural force than in part 7.
(not sure this is Kane though, haha, but the gif is to good not to post)
I think in this case, the directors vision should have had to take a back seat for the event/Celebration that the film was. I think Ronny Yu, who didn't even seem to know the characters or care for them, could have managed and the film wouldn't have been hurt one bit.
It was an event 15-20 years in the making.
Kane Hodder should have had the role if he wanted it. He had proven he could do it. He had shown he wanted it. He had earned it. That is what matters. In that case.
(And Steve Miner should have directed it)
EDIT: IMO ofc.
plagiarize
Banned
Instead of a squat bulky Jason with platform shoes. Hodder wears lifts pretty much 100% of the time.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
What we got was a tall, lanky Jason with platform shoes. And calling Kane Hodder not intimidating/hulking badass is pretty silly. Jason never felt bigger and more of a crazy natural force than in part 7.
(not sure this is Kane though, haha, but the gif is to good not to post)
I think in this case, the directors vision should have had to take a back seat for the event/Celebration that the film was. I think Ronny Yu, who didn't even seem to know the characters or care for them, could have managed and the film wouldn't have been hurt one bit.
It was an event 15-20 years in the making.
Kane Hodder should have had the role if he wanted it. He had proven he could do it. He had shown he wanted it. He had earned it. That is what matters. In that case.
(And Steve Miner should have directed it)
EDIT: IMO ofc.
Well just have to agree to disagree on this.
Im not saying Kane was a bad Jason though. Only that the imposing Jason we got worked better versus Freddy.
Look at that massive mother fucker.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
Well just have to agree to disagree on this.
Im not saying Kane was a bad Jason though. Only that the imposing Jason we got worked better versus Freddy.
Look at that massive mother fucker.
Naw, Kane would have worked as good.
And not saying Ken Kirzinger (if that's how you spell his name) was bad. The main thing, for me, is that it would have been the "morally" correct thing to do for that specific film to have Hodder. I'm not saying it would have been correct for the remake, but for FvJ it should have been Hodder. And who knows, maybe it would have helped make the movie memorable.
Thread? Hell, I'd watch a doc on that.
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