Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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Well, we'll probably get some of that with the swamp stuff. But I doubt this season will touch on any of the spirit wilds meaningfully. Pretty sure it was just an afterthought at this point (I mean the merging of spirit and physical world).
Seems like the main focus here is government conflict and military/war. Basically a combination of the equalist movement meets The Civil War plot. So much focus will be in the Earth Kingdom.
You can't expect the integration of a whole new race and species in three years, even with the avatar.
True - just people were super pissed about that (I mean, they lost their homes and all), so Im interested to see how they explain Korra's inability to deal with the situation.
Nah, they need to end Korra's arc while is still good. 4 seasons is fine.
Also I have my fingers crossed for a new Avatar series in a post-apocaliptic setting where these new air-benders have become a conquering army and the new earth-based avatar have to defeat them (just some crazy ideas I have).
I agree that integration and the resolution of that plot isn't likely in 3 years. But the bigger issue is how much they've avoided it all together. I mean, they put so much focus on Korra leaving the portal open, and thus ushering in the age of a new world, where both spirits and the physical world have to co-exist together. THAT was the massive change from her actions.
We later find out that it also brought back the air benders (and restored some balance). However, the whole plot with Zaheer, anarchy, and governments changing was a result of a bad guy just happening to get air bending as a result of her actions. It's kind of strange to shift focus to that as the final conflict going into the end, vs the spirit/physical world change from the portals being kept open. Granted, the world was shifting anyways, and it seems like things like revolutions etc. were bound to happen. Regardless of her actions. But the way the plot is connected to her opening the portal is kind of strange. That, that's what we we really get out of the portals being left open, rather than a bigger focus on the conflicts between spirits and the real world having to co-exist.
At they very least, I kind of wish we got more of the world being changed as a result of her actions (I mean on a spiritual/physical integration level. Or the conflicts that arise as apart of it). Hell, even if just on a surface level, I wish the world had become more colorful and diverse. Even if they didn't want to touch on those things on a plot level. Doesn't really feel like the world is all that different.
I don't think spirit wilds in the middle of a city is what Korra had in mind.
I agree. I expected a huge focus on how humans and benders would deal with the spirits, such as apartheid. With such a large repercussion at the end of season 2, it was severely disappointing that only two episodes adressed these concerns. It should have been inter-winded within the series, and within the lore and atmosphere of the episodes. I wanted to see the spirits struggle/get along with the material world.
This may be a bit out there, but it feels like the creators have avoided this because of the the reaction to season 2. I can't see any other way how they could have disregarded one of the biggest storylines in the series.
NHarmonic.
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That was so hype, didn't expected a time skip at all.
And i sincerely can't wait to see Toph, this will be fucking glorious!
And i sincerely can't wait to see Toph, this will be fucking glorious!
I edited my post. But I also think on a surface level, I kind of expected like more variety with how the world has changed. Outside of a couple of scenes, it seems like the world is the same as it's always been. I kind of expected a more colorful world post harmonic convergence. So even if they didn't want to touch on this on a plot level, at least SHOW us the world has changed.
On a side note, I'm kind of torn on time skips. I do think, they can be used effectively. They are a good way to reset things, and get the ball rolling in a new direction. It's a good way to cut the fat, and move plot in a quicker direction that is needed. But I kind of also hate this idea that, we missed out on all this stuff. If we see our characters change (in terms of how they look, their behavior, who they are in a relationship with)...it feels like we missed out on that. We missed out on getting to see them become those people.
I always feel a bit uneasy about it. This trailer doesn't help, as it's pretty much about nothing and tells us nothing (well about the overall arc). I hope that they don't get too crazy with how much the characters have changed. Then on the other hand, this show has had a lot of problems with growing characters, because they've had too many to deal with. And as a result, a lot of them have become static. So maybe a time jump is what is needed to just get these characters to a place they need to be (for them to grow up and change) for the ending.
I dunno.
I always feel a bit uneasy about it. This trailer doesn't help, as it's pretty much about nothing and tells us nothing (well about the overall arc). I hope that they don't get too crazy with how much the characters have changed. Then on the other hand, this show has had a lot of problems with growing characters, because they've had too many to deal with. And as a result, a lot of them have become static. So maybe a time jump is what is needed to just get these characters to a place they need to be (for them to grow up and change) for the ending.
I dunno.
shira
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They better finish the series off proper with another time skip 20 years later. A nice wink to the camera and silence/fade to black
gotta keep a few bullets in the chamber.
They better finish the series off proper with another time skip 20 years later. A nice wink to the camera and silence/fade to black
Should end with "all is well". And showing the characters at a party with their babies and stuff. Shipper bait ending.
That reminds me, JKR totally should have stolen TLA's ending. Harry figuring out how to use the Elder Wand to make Voldemort into a muggle would be a lot cooler than (HP spoilers I guess)
him dying due to wand inheritance laws reflecting his own spell.
Yeah they went so light in regards to the two worlds being more connected now. We saw some spirits in Republic City and Misty Palms Oasis, but that was pretty much it. The world didn't feel much different otherwise.
Dreadnought
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We should have an ending like The Sopranos
So you're saying that it'll end with Korra about to kiss Mako and then it cuts to black.
Admiral Woofington
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"So Korra what will you do now?"
"Well with that done I guess Mako and I can st-"
*credits*
Oh yes this would be glorious. Even better if it cut out before Korrasami wae confirmed. I would relish the tears.
Kuvira does seem to be in control of a good chuck of the Earth Kingdom:
The old guy to her...left? Was the Earth Queen's Grand Secretariat. He got a job with the new boss.
Poor Suyin :S What the hell happened to the Metal Clan. Looks like the people of the Earth Kingdom begged for order after the Red Lotus insurrection, much like the Communist in China after the fall of the last Dynasty and the Civil War.
The old guy to her...left? Was the Earth Queen's Grand Secretariat. He got a job with the new boss.
Poor Suyin :S What the hell happened to the Metal Clan. Looks like the people of the Earth Kingdom begged for order after the Red Lotus insurrection, much like the Communist in China after the fall of the last Dynasty and the Civil War.
Jesus Christ, thank god. I replied in the Trailer thread, without realizing that it's a separate thread and was utterly confused when I looked back here again and found that neither my post nor the posts I saw before were here. My post history wasn't up to date either. Thought I was man in blacked for a minute. @.@
She look awfully like Mako in that shot.Kuvira does seem to be in control of a good chuck of the Earth Kingdom:
The old guy to her...left? Was the Earth Queen's Grand Secretariat. He got a job with the new boss.
Poor Suyin :S What the hell happened to the Metal Clan. Looks like the people of the Earth Kingdom begged for order after the Red Lotus insurrection, much like the Communist in China after the fall of the last Dynasty and the Civil War.
He
kinda looks like him, also seems to have also grown a beard since Book 3.
Wonder which ruler he prefers working under Kuvira or The Earth Queen.
Wonder which ruler he prefers working under Kuvira or The Earth Queen.
Dreadnought
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What if Toph actually isn't in Book 4. Korra just stumbles into a cave and finds the remains of Toph
The Scollard
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That trailer got me so hyped up. It's only a week until the premiere, yet I still can't wait. So excited.
Novel Mike
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I'm kinda surprised, I didn't see Mako, I assume I missed him but really looked like he wasn't getting much if any screen time in the trailer.
Admiral Woofington
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Yeah not that much footage of him but he is in there a couple of times and he's also sporting a new style.
Dreadnought
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Dreadnought
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I knew those ruins in the swamp were going to be explored!
I love how it's hinted at in ATLA
Septimus Prime
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You know what would be crazy? What if Bolin ends up being a bad guy? Since Korra is supposed to be the complete opposite of Aang, it would provide a nice contrast to Zuko turning good by the end of Avatar.
Same thing I posted in the other thread.
probably not a bad guy but unwittingly working for the bad guys
it kinda looks like he's pitched against Korra, Mako and the rest of the crew
Admiral Woofington
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That's definitely a possibility, but it looked more to me that
he's part of the metal city guard to be with Opal/train as an earthbender in combat, and is fighting people trying to take it over for the earth reich, hence Suyin looking captured/defeated/sad
This would be an absolutely terrible idea for an evolution in his character. I wouldn't mind much him unwillingly working for them due to Opal, but even that is very weak since their relationship on screen has also been weak and ineffective. The motivation isn't believable to the audience.
Admiral Woofington
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his biggest issue will probably be that he's an easy going guy and a military-like lifestyle isn't for him.
Point is this is the most interesting choice they probably have done with his character. I doubt he'd
betray the krew
they're all in a difficult position and possible being taken over by the reich, and he wants to stay to protect them
That arc wouldn't feel earned with his character. I fear the writers abuse the time skip and try to pull some wonky character shit. Nothing this extreme though. But yeah, time skips can either be used really effectively or can be mishandled and be a crutch for lazy writers.
Edit: I agree it will be more like a dilemma where he's become apart of the metal clan military during the time skip and has become deeply involved with Opals family. But when all hell breaks loose and the army splits and pushes for power, he'll be caught in the crossfire. I could see it tearing him and Opal apart. But no way will he become evil. At best you might get him sympathizing with the army at first assuming their intentions are well. But he'll ultimately come back to team Avatar.
...is that a cabbage stand in the background?
Blargonaut
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caaaaaannnnnn'''tttttttttt waaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiittttttttttt
This time, I won't let internet criticism dampen my viewing mood like with Seasons 1 and 2 (silly, I know, but it somehow always does).
I'm just going to recline in solitude and sip Season 4 like a fine wine, and not pay attention to any debate anywhere. Total discussion black-out and I'm never lurking in these Korra threads ever again
. Thanks for the intelligent reads and insights over the past few years, Korra-GAF.
I'm simply going to try and enjoy this final spectacle as-is in my mind and savour the flavour for eternity, whatever the outcome.
So, uh, hello and goodbye from a long-time lurker, I guess.
my body is ready
This time, I won't let internet criticism dampen my viewing mood like with Seasons 1 and 2 (silly, I know, but it somehow always does).
I'm just going to recline in solitude and sip Season 4 like a fine wine, and not pay attention to any debate anywhere. Total discussion black-out and I'm never lurking in these Korra threads ever again
(well...maybe until mid-2015 or something)
I'm simply going to try and enjoy this final spectacle as-is in my mind and savour the flavour for eternity, whatever the outcome.
So, uh, hello and goodbye from a long-time lurker, I guess.
my body is ready
OldAsUrSock
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I wish they 2d animated those titanfall machines.
Yes, that's my worry about the time lapse too. I'm already questioning whether three years is enough time for Kuvira to grow and build strong motivations on what it seems to be 'taking the Earth nation to rebuild it', growth for the Metal Nation and lebensraum. She was only mentioned once or twice in the last season as a foreshadowing.
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