His D2 read looked weak as well. I can totally see scum piggybacking Kawl and voting CCS. Do you town read him?
I don't particularly town read him. So it's a matter of "Is this Stanley's usual behavior or not...?"
Is there anyone you town read?
cabot slightly, due to the fact that he's taking initiative.
Somethings I looked over observing day 1:
We know how that Sorian was town.
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Stanley's reads, and vote on CCS.
[*]We see him lump Acohrs and Ty4on together. We know Acohrs is scum. At the time of this vote, Acohrs had two votes, and Ty4on had one vote. Where did this comment of Ty4on come from, I wonder?- We see him give a pass to Acohrs not being scum with flimsy justification.
- We see him give a pass to the argument for Ty4on.
hold on what? i didnt make any connection between achors and ty4on?
or is your point that i just talked about about them both in the same post.
so not only do i not remember the content of my previous posts, but i cant even read them properly either.You lumped them together as the two people that everyone seemed to have the most suspicious of. A quick glance at the vote count suggested the opposite, however I did not read into that particular page to recall the full conversation at the time.
Also seeing as you're here Stanley, what do you make of the votes on you? You came close to being an alternative lynch to CCS.
That's a hit. Damn. Didn't Natiko even hint this was a possibility?
Cabot, I'm not scum. I'm town. Frustrated town and I disliked how CCS was playing.
I'd like to bring up this as well:
I'm not really sure why this is a worry if you think you've found a scum target.
It's very odd to note.
This gained traction, yet your vote still held on CCS. Why didn't you switch?
just to make it clear.
I was not at the end of Day 2 is because something came up and i could not follow up to even post. Yes, i know this sucks, adding to that was of course my low activity and my less than average posts.
I can of course understand your vote on me Cabot but i will try to show you that i am indeed a true Townie.
Bronx is just following along but i can also understand that fellow.
a mad list will follow as soon as a wake up.
I fail to see the problem here, nothing stopping you pushing for an answer.Asking the question yesterday leaves the door open for "lets wait for the flip and see"
Yes, expanding the discussion would have been just terrible.or expands the discussion by adding multiple different possibilities to the speculation.
Padding.Now we have a one thing to consider.
Stating the obvious again, this sentence serves literally no purpose.Not speaking about CCS here, but you.
Ok so you are pretending that CCS' flip was a surprise. This section also justifies why Kyan is looking at me - something that I don't think ever needs justifying and certainly wasn't questioned in my post.You entered the sights as a possible busser and were removed from the sights when I concluded that your potential scum play was too good to attack you for. In other words, if you were a bussing scum, you did it well enough for me to give you a free pass, until the flip brought you up again.
I explained at the time how it was simply the right move to make. Yes it was easy, the easiness of D2 vote unfortunately makes it less useful to look back on, but I don't regret it one bit.I really felt that your day two vote was incredibly easy.
This much is true at least. I thought about trying to move the discussion beyond the obvious CCS lynch, but when the lynch target is so obvious it's hard to do and ultimately I didn't bother.You could do so much more, I thought.
Again pretending to be surprised, but what I want to point out here is that this sentence doesn't follow on from the previous two, it's pure filler material.But I waited for the flip and saw.
Ok finally we get some more response to my actual post, but what are you telling us here? I already explained the benefit of asking later, your rebuttal is some nice sounding words that mean nothing. Forcing an answer tells you how cooperative am - a terrible indicator of alignment. Waiting to see if I use the information I voted for tells you if I was actually interested in using it - a better indicator of alignment.I could not contain myself, that is true. Why wait if I can control? By asking, I can force it out of you.
Meaningless, filler, not even true.By staying silent, the door through which you can flee stays open.
Alternate universe Splinter is an idiot, apparently. That question has a clear answer that I already outlined above. Asking later wouldn't even have been scummy, thus avoiding this whole song and dance."Why did you not ask me this earlier?" asked the Splinter of an alternative universe about 36 hours from now.
No shit. Do you think that a scum Splinter would be incapable of analysing a scum V town D1 vote?Now you have to provide, either an explanation or something else.
No shit. Do you think that a scum Splinter would be inca- ...Hey, waitaminute!I wish to see if your words were more than that, if you actually had some substance behind them.
Don't worry you're doing just fine 👍They are easy words to write, analyze and all. It is moderately harder to turn fluff into content.
And I won't break this last bit down, but in short: act scummy and I'm gonna call you on it.Your increased aggressiveness worries me. It is only few posts, but they stand out. You have been bit on the background in my opinion, you can be more fiery if you want. Why does the flame burn when it sees me?
How did melon get in to your null list?The best I can muster is a lean to town. I'm very afraid right now.
Town Leans
6. [m] Ty4on
7. [m] AbsolutBro
14. [m] Kyanrute
Null
20. [m] MagnumBoy20xx
1. [f] Sophia
5. [f] Melonrabbit
11. [m] *Splinter
16. [m] Ynnek7
Scum Leans
17. [m] Nin1000
18. [m] Bronx-Man
Scum
2. [m] StanleyPalmtree
19. [m] Pop-O-Matic -> [m] Terrabyte20xx
How did melon get in to your null list?
When did Terra become scum? I don't remember you mentioning him before.
Maybe I've been misreading the room, but I feel like melon was pretty much the top scum suspect yesterday. She certainly had more than just you suspecting her, I feel like you're just using this idea to excuse your survival.I'm struggling to see scum keeping me alive when I went so hard on melon yesterday. It could be a double bluff, but it's certainly forced me to reboot my read.
Terra hasn't been mentioned because I've been waiting for him to deliver something of use, all I remember was him throwing shade on me once and Pop's inactivity in D1 which was a scumtell to me.
Maybe I've been misreading the room, but I feel like melon was pretty much the top scum suspect yesterday. She certainly had more than just you suspecting her, I feel like you're just using this idea to excuse your survival.
Also Pop's inactivity is a scumtell? Lover pls
An considering how many NKs we've had, you're okay with that mentality?
we've wasted a mislynch on someone who you seemed to believe was a nuisance more than being scum.
You didn't answer my question.
Why are you even frustrated?
You had one person tunnel on you and it didnt even end with your lynch, there were still a few people clearly disagreeing with my stance?
Why exactly does that frustrate you?
This is the question
Most of us where on CCS, I know I'm not the only one who had melon as a top suspect though.there was reasonable heat on melon, but only three people ended the vote on her, with a significant amount hitting stan instead, that doesn't show me she was the 'top scum' because it wasnt everyone abiding by a CCS lynch.
1) Plenty of people were wrong about melon, I don't think killing you would have made her lynch any less likely. If anything killing you would make it more likely as you wouldn't be here to change your mind.Could I use this as an excuse for survival? yes.
Could scum keep me alive for 1) I'm wrong about melon and they expect me to tunnel her for a second day in a row and 2) It is beginning to be suspicious that I'm still alive. Also yes.
Not really stronger one way or another there, lover.
Do you think Pop lurked so hard he accidentally subbed himself out of the game? I'm not going to discuss this point further because Terra has done literally nothing to inspire confidence, but mentioning Pop's inactivity just seemed like a weird justification of a scumread to me.Why is Pop's inactivty worthy of a brush off?
Do you remember love boat? Kawl went AWOL, flipped scum.
1) ]Oh, now, I'm null to you.
Scum's laughing at us.
My mentality has nothing to do with NKs. I believed CCS was scum based on how anti-town he was playing. We've been over this. Several times.
2) Get over yourself. I'm frustrated with myself and wish I had a better handle on the game. I've contributed quite poorly overall.
3) My voting for Stan wouldn't have gotten him lynched and last vote shenanigans are frowned upon, no?
I would be more worried about those who chose to withhold their vote, despite being there end of day.
I'd flip CCS for the anti-town shenanigans, lack of caring or attempting to contribute (even when pushed), sheeping, and other frustrating behavior. Without it we can't close the loop with acohrs. And I recognize it could just be me getting such scummy vibes from this play style.
I will put my vote down for now.
vote: CCS
However, I am willing to switch my vote to Stan, if that gains traction or if there's a tie.
Most of us where on CCS, I know I'm not the only one who had melon as a top suspect though.
It is interesting that Stan had more votes than melon, however.
1) Plenty of people were wrong about melon, I don't think killing you would have made her lynch any less likely. If anything killing you would make it more likely as you wouldn't be here to change your mind.
2) Pretty pointless risk for a player of unknown role. Noone had even mentioned this before today.
Skipping your paragraph on Natiko/Tim but I agree and think Natiko was likely the scum kill.
Do you think Pop lurked so hard he accidentally subbed himself out of the game? I'm not going to discuss this point further because Terra has done literally nothing to inspire confidence, but mentioning Pop's inactivity just seemed like a weird justification of a scumread to me.
Do you think Pop lurked so hard he accidentally subbed himself out of the game? I'm not going to discuss this point further because Terra has done literally nothing to inspire confidence, but mentioning Pop's inactivity just seemed like a weird justification of a scumread to me.
It is interesting that Stan had more votes than melon, however.
1) Plenty of people were wrong about melon, I don't think killing you would have made her lynch any less likely. If anything killing you would make it more likely as you wouldn't be here to change your mind.
1) I've explained clearly my thinking, if you're Town surely you see the logic? Please shitpost instead though.
2) Please, this isn't narcissism, if you're frustrated with yourself what are you going to do about it? Step up.
3) Garbage. If you think Stan is more likely to be scum, then you'd hit there and yes, you could have brought him ahead.
Seems your intentionally downplaying the fact I'm the most active player and also hard tunneled into melon yesterday, also the fact she wasn't even second in the final tally counters your theory that my NK 'wouldn't make a difference'. If the town leader can't force a switch to even get her into second place, then I don't think her lynch is likely.
1.) I don't understand your first point. So, I neither agree nor disagree.
2.) Why didn't I think of that?! You are so much better at mafia than me.
3.) Obviously didn't think Stan was more scummy than CCS or more likely. I don't fucking know now.
I'm 100% not defending you, you're still my top suspect. I think "wrong" was supposed to be "scumreading", no idea why I typed that.Splinter is (somewhat) defending me? This is the darkest timeline.
Interesting phrasing.
Also, tell me about how pretty my eyes are.
A wrong town leader left alive will continue to lead, and may change target.Seems your intentionally downplaying the fact I'm the most active player and also hard tunneled into melon yesterday, also the fact she wasn't even second in the final tally counters your theory that my NK 'wouldn't make a difference'. If the town leader can't force a switch to even get her into second place, then I don't think her lynch is likely.
A wrong town leader left alive will continue to lead, and may change target.
A dead town leader is wrong forever.
1) My theory that if you're Town, scum keeping me alive makes sense because I was tunneling on you as a Town. That's an easy lynch to follow and then subsequently put suspicion on me the following day when you flip Town.
2) Uh-huh.
3)
Why did you mention switching to Stan then?
1.) Since I am town it is either likely correct or you're scum.
Kyan's post is wordy and has a ton of filler, so I'm gonna break it down to highlight that. Filler cuz Kyan wanted to have fun. No fun allowed.
I fail to see the problem here, nothing stopping you pushing for an answer. Did not think you were problematic at the time.
Yes, expanding the discussion would have been just terrible. Shade, meant that I find it easier to speculate about more concrete things than n amount of possibilities.
Stating the obvious again, this sentence serves literally no purpose. The purpose is fun.
Ok so you are pretending that CCS' flip was a surprise. This section also justifies why Kyan is looking at me - something that I don't think ever needs justifying and certainly wasn't questioned in my post. Of course CCS was a surprise, meaning that I was not sure what his alignment was. The rest, just me explaining the way I think.
This much is true at least. I thought about trying to move the discussion beyond the obvious CCS lynch, but when the lynch target is so obvious it's hard to do and ultimately I didn't bother. Cool.
Again pretending to be surprised, but what I want to point out here is that this sentence doesn't follow on from the previous two, it's pure filler material. This nitpicking is so scum Splinter.
Ok finally we get some more response to my actual post, but what are you telling us here? I already explained the benefit of asking later, your rebuttal is some nice sounding words that mean nothing. Forcing an answer tells you how cooperative am - a terrible indicator of alignment. Waiting to see if I use the information I voted for tells you if I was actually interested in using it - a better indicator of alignment. Forcing an answer gets the discussion moving. I have felt that it has not been moving enough and for now would prefer to actively move it around instead of looking and thinking.
Meh. Either scum or a major playstyle disagreement up to the point that I do not care if I am wrong.
VOTE: *Splinter
I'm 100% not defending you, you're still my top suspect. I think "wrong" was supposed to be "scumreading", no idea why I typed that.
I would totally lynch someone for that, lol
Have you come up with a reason for this one, yet?
Really? I give you a nice compliment and that's all you want to focus on.
You said it yourself -- you being alive today looks suspicious.
Either your theory checks or you are scum. The only universal truth I know is that I'm town. But I believe your theory, for the moment.
Do you think Bronx NKed Sorian out of spite?
That vote justification is garbage but I just remembered you're probably town, so whatever.Meh. Either scum or a major playstyle disagreement up to the point that I do not care if I am wrong.
VOTE: *Splinter
Compliments don't help us win this game, only good pre-dates to get the confidence going.
Being a SK allows you to be like that, Bronx specifically killed me in WWE Mafia as SK because I was pushing him as a lynch target. It's not out of character, though I wouldn't necessarily say it's only true to Bronx's character either. You can kill for whatever you like as SK.
That vote justification is garbage but I just remembered you're probably town, so whatever.
Compliments don't help us win this game, only good pre-dates to get the confidence going.
Being a SK allows you to be like that, Bronx specifically killed me in WWE Mafia as SK because I was pushing him as a lynch target. It's not out of character, though I wouldn't necessarily say it's only true to Bronx's character either. You can kill for whatever you like as SK.
That vote justification is garbage but I just remembered you're probably town, so whatever.
He had one post making me think scum versus nothing making me think town.So your analysis of his post was what, he's town but made one scummy post?
or he was scum, and this subsequent vote is so poor I now think he's town again?
I speculated that scum chose to steal from Natiko N1 because Sorian was their NK target. Sorian is usually a PR magnet. Kinda ballsy tho when you've just lost your ninja.
Yeah did noone do their homework? Ty4on where you at?Did Kawl make any mention or hint of his role? Or breadcrumb anyone he may have watched?