anonymous_abc
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And for a set that massive, that is a BIG savings.
Maybe I should get her something nice for the 25%? That should soften the blow.
And for a set that massive, that is a BIG savings.
I think you're being too kind to the Lego Group. Their current predicament is at least in part a result of their marketing almost being exclusively marketed towards boys, which - you guessed it! - will mean that boys will almost exclusively buy it.
IMO, the videos are great, and I don't find anything particularly disagreeable in them.
I think the major dearth of female minifigures - the video posited a ratio of 18:1 for male- and female-identified characters in Lego's sets, for example - will be a huge stumbling block right from the get-go, and one that is (with the exception of those sets based on external properties) incredibly easy to solve.
Oh dear,
I just bought the SSD for 323€ ...
my s.o. must never know, how to get it into the flat unnoticed? xP
The frustration is because, imo, having a set specifically tailored for girls is an unnecessary decision that (simply by existing) reinforces the mistaken notion that "regular" Lego is for boys only. What's even more frustrating (for some) is that it markets itself using somewhat reductive stereotypes about what girls enjoy.
I think if Sarkeesian's video is slightly out-of-date, however, it would be because later entries in the Friends franchise have included an emphasis away from the leisure-related and strereotypically feminine activities she mentions in the video, but I am not sure how prevalent those are in the theme.
Just out of curiosity, what is the gender ratio in those sets like? Does it approach 1:1?
Certainly, it is unfortunate the vast majority of licenses that Lego could choose from have been highly unbalanced in terms of gender representation - the Star Wars licence is perhaps one of the most egregious examples of this - but this should not deny the Lego Group's agency in choosing to acquire and prioritise those licences. (I imagine that their decision to acquire the licences of franchises targeted to boys was also influenced by the self-reinforcing results of their male-orientated marketing.)
True, but that is not how Lego markets the Friends line, as the adverts in the video show. With the main Lego lines building the set is always an integral and important part of the narrative the toy provides - "Build this set and save the day!" - but with the Friends line building the set is not emphasised. Rather, the implication is that girls should want to buy this product because they like playing with dolls and their accessories. (Perhaps, of course, more recent adverts have changed this tact.)
If you're referring to the image she used here, then I think her claim is defensible irrespective of that. Notice how the female minifigure (even with the basic smiley face) is identified: her long, feminine hair. Maybe I'm just projecting the other minifigures' genders on the basis of my own, but it seems to me that the de facto implication is that the other characters are not, then, female.
I think she dismisses the Creator sets because, unlike Lego's other lines, a minifigure-based narrative isn't at their centre.
I was going to stay away from this but having just watched the video I feel the need to share as I've now lost 13 minutes of my life which I will not get back.
Complaining that a business markets a product for profit which fits their research and is successful (Star Wars for example) and then suggesting they address these issues is kinda pointless unless gender differences are addressed within society as a whole. Lego do what they have to do to operate within society at large and of all the companies out there I think they are quite virtuous.
I'm not saying Friends has been handled in the best way possible but when I was growing up in the 80's my cousins (2 girls, got no sisters) showed zero interest in Lego and this was way before any kind of action element was introduced. The closest would have been classic space but that was gender neutral.
With Friends more girls will pick it up and play. Surely that is a good thing and they will most likely end up using other lines that Lego offer and having just as much fun as boys.
She should go look at Barbie, Cindy, Bratz and whatever else is out there now telling girls they need to concentrate on looking pretty to have an identity.
Well, to my friendly fellow AFOLs... I have been had.
I opened one of my backlog sets from over a year ago that I got from... wait for it... amazon warehousedeals.
Inside: no jabba, no gamorrean guard. Everything else SEEMS in-tact but i'm not sure if I'm going to open the bags or not yet to be certain. The bag the guard should have been in looks like it may have been resealed as it doesn't match the seal on the other bags exactly, but i'm not an expert on this.
One of the potential downsides to having a backlog... you could have sets in your collection and not know important (and expensive) parts are missing, and by the time you notice, it's been so long that probably no customer service rep will help you.
Don't let it happen to you :/ Open all your sets asap.
I checked other boxes I got from amazon, not many had rare minifigures though. I'm about 95% sure they are complete. It's just that one set.
I submitted a missing parts form to lego... I have no idea what my chances are of getting the parts from them. Most of the parts were marked red instead of green in the selection menu :/
I feel bad about being upset cause the damn thing has been sitting unopened for a while now. I almost feel like it's my own fault, but I still wish whoever is responsible would have something horrible happen to them.
Ultimately what I hope happens is amazon can somehow track who returned the item and penalize them in some way but that's probably too hopeful.
I continue to disagree with this statement, at least in terms of inate preferences in toys. If this is ultimately the point you are making then I suspect we should discontinue this conversation now.
Actually, if I really wanted to disprove your argument I'd dredge up an advert from the 1950s!
I feel like I should clarify that, sure, it's OK to like problematic things. I don't exactly consider the Friends line devil-spawn, but at the same time I think Lego could be doing a lot more a lot better to make Lego "for girls".
(And, actually, anecdotal evidence of girls incorporating elements from "boys'" Lego sets into their Friends-based creations would only seem to suggest to me that good ol' regular Lego is, ultimately, what they really want.)
Ouch! In the previous LEGO thread, I mentioned buying the Harry Potter castle set and having all the minifigures missing. LEGO was willing to to send me all the minifigure parts after showing lots of proof I actually bought the set. They had me scan my receipt and tell them the part number printed on one of the manuals.
Thanks for that info. Well, I still have the "receipt" on my amazon.com order page, is that what you used? I don't have the box it was shipped in anymore, but I think all the relevant info should be on the website... I hope.
And yeah I have the manuals so I can definitely do that, but isn't that info easy to find online anyhow? I don't see what that proves.
I hope they can work with me on this cause it did put a dent in my LEGO purchasing outlook, honestly. If they can't/won't replace the parts I'm going to be a lot more apprehensive about buying expensive sets.
Reach out to lego themselves. They're fairly good in replacing items, and I think they realize that minifig pinching has become an epidemic.
And yes your Jabba crisis is much more interesting to me than the Friends debate, so don't worry about bring it up.
Thanks again BentBricks. And glad LEGO is adjusting their bag dispersion to hopefully deter theft. I looked at some videos online to compare the bags in the Jabba set to what I receied: The Jabba itself is in its own bag, so that makes it really easy to take. Still, the Ghammorean guard is (from the best I can tell) actually INSIDE Bag #2 so unless it really was never included, someone definitely resealed the bag. There's very little LEGO can do to combat that :/
Anyways, I'm determined to get it sorted. I don't want to keep dragging out the topic, so here is something LEGO related I found:
LEGO Movie soundtrack snippets!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HWJX20W/?tag=neogaf0e-20
28 tracks of goodness. I recommend NOT reading the track titles if you want to hear the clips. Just click the play buttons cause they could have plot spoilers. I personally avoided reading them.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I think this is gonna be on very steady rotation for me once it's out.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I think this is gonna be on very steady rotation for me once it's out.
LEGO has taken notice. Larger sets with multiple bags spread the minifigs among the bags instead of putting them all in bag 1.
The comment about marketing exclusively to boys IS one of the parts of the video I have issues. For her to make claims that boys bought more LEGO than girls due to the marketing, she needs numbers and dates. I would like to see the figures on what they estimated that girls bought LEGO vs boys bought LEGO BEFORE the boy marketing campaigns. This is critical data IMO not to include (understood she may not have access, but she is weaving her arguments/points without mention of it at all).
[...] IMO I think it was more likely their research indicated boys were a significantly larger demographic that buys LEGO compared to girls.
LEGO has tried to market to girls with girl targeted themes/sets in the past and failed miserably. What does the success of the Friends theme mean?
I hope I didn't bring negative vibes to this forum posting the videos. If girls truly are interested in "regular" LEGO, then Friends will help bring that about. As more girls will venture to Creator and other themes. I was a kid in the 70's when LEGO was more gender neutral and my anecdotal experience was boys were more into LEGO than girls. Not that girls didn't play with them, but not as much.
My next Friends set I get will be the Cinderella carriage set. LEGO combined 2 girl stereotypes and will make a killing. Disney Princesses and Friends.
Hope we all had a chance to speak our thoughts on this and we can move on to the usual happy vibes in this thread.
They should bring back the front flap with clear window underneath, seems like that's the only way to deal with the problem outside of packaging sets in plastic clamshells.
I think what Sarkeesian finds frustrating, however, is that Lego has decided to expand its audience in a way that then implies implicitly that its other lines are not for girls, and then perpetuates other stereotypes in other ways - why, for example, for a brand of brick-based construction toys is the building element of the Friends line minimised in its own advertising?
Furthermore, it is clear that the Friends line has a very strong fanbase among AFOL fans, especially in being a source of pastel colours for collectors to use. But why not introduce those colours into its main lines, instead of including them primarily in a line targeted towards girls (and so then also implying that boys cannot like pink or purple)?
I'd go on, but at this point I'm just regurgitating the points the video itself makes.
New modular looking good Phon! Started on my own police station and I'm finding that it's more difficult to create my own modular (versus a castle or some other diorama). I want to limit myself to one baseplate so I'm finding space a premium for the details I'd like to include.
Also finished the Palace Cinema the other day. A bit uninspiring on the inside I thought, but I really like the outside detail and look.
I want it for all those colored tiles and those inverted 2x2 tiles.
Just built this. Hinge works quite well actually.
Anyway, LEGO should make an official Raspberry Pi case Gonna try my hand at a few designs I think.
Just built this. Hinge works quite well actually.
Anyway, LEGO should make an official Raspberry Pi case Gonna try my hand at a few designs I think.
What is that, an official set?
Yes. I've only seen it on the S@H site though - http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=40114-1
I was hoping someone could help me out with putting together the curtains for the restaurant modular. Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't actually build it the way the instructions suggest. The 1x2 bracket would need to be about 1/3 higher, otherwise the 1x1 brick doesn't fit.
Thanks guys.
Hehe, same mistake I did, turn the bracket around. Put the 2x1 plate on the other studs, it's a bit longer in one direction.
Yes. I've only seen it on the S@H site though - http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=40114-1
Hehe, same mistake I did, turn the bracket around. Put the 2x1 plate on the other studs, it's a bit longer in one direction.
Man it's tough not to buy some of these Lego Movie sets, I don't really love many of the sets but they have so many great minifigures.
Visited the Lego Store today and noticed they had those green leaf branch thingies...not sure if anyone was looking for those or not.
These?
Or these?
And which color? Was it the really bright green, or the medium or dark green? If the medium or dark green, I would love to have either. If bright green, I have a ton. I dont have any of the smaller ones.
Just built this. Hinge works quite well actually.
Anyway, LEGO should make an official Raspberry Pi case Gonna try my hand at a few designs I think.
More disappointment. I still need to get the turtle minifigs from the other sets though.
Baxter Robot is only 19.99 on LEGO S@H. You get April and nice mech.
Baxter Robot is only 19.99 on LEGO S@H. You get April and nice mech.
Thanks for sharing the TMNT set pics. I'm for certain getting them all, because I love those characters and universe so much. The Nickelodeon show is so very good.
As sets on their own, yeah, I'd probably find them underwhelming. That's okay. I can build my own sets! Another goal of mine is to build a large sewer lair replica from the show. So I need a lot of these elements regardless. Sadly larger projects do have to wait until I move
This. This is amazing.
That whole MOC last year was amazing - all the vignette scenes stuffed into it.
Edit:
Found some shots on his Flickr. I think he posted some better ones while it was in progress but I don't have them.
Batman vs Bane by Brent Waller, on Flickr
TMNT by Brent Waller, on Flickr