I bet you Linus will make shitty 8k gaming build videos twice a year if they brought it backYes, let's bring back SLI. If I win the lottery, I'll buy a RTX6090 Quad SLI and play every single PT game at 4K native 240fps / Hz
Yeah that would be realy low spec wise.
Well then i want to see what devs can show off on that console.
Cerny stated the Ps6 isn't about the gpu and he's not only talking about his product, all these companies working together and decide the future of gaming tech.We have seen huge improvements in GPUs since early 2000 almost every / two years, but it seems that many people do not understand what has made this possible. It's not like Nvidia and ATI / AMD have been improving the architecture so much each year to get 2x increase in performance. The truth is that this progress has only been possible because TMSC has been able to offer more transistors at the same price every 1-2 years. Unfortunately we hit the node wall and Nvidia cannot improve performance without increasing price and power consumption anymore (RTX5090 with absolutely ridiculous 575TDP). Some people like to think that Nvidia is just greedy, but can we really expect them to cut prices when costs go up? That's not realistic.
So what does this mean for us gamers? Well, we can certainly say goodbye to cheap GPUs and meaningful improvements every 2 years.
980ti vs. 1080ti a whopping 92% relative difference even without DLSS / FG gimmicks. We can forget about such massive gains.
The good part is, current GPUs will last longer than ever.
Nor can we expect PS6 to bring the desired improvements. I doubt AMD will make APU that will be able to match even RTX4090 in the next few years. I was hoping to see PT used on the PS6, but things are not looking so good. Perhaps Sony should delay the PS6 until they can offer a meaningful performance / technology boost.
What can we do if things only get worse with our current hobby? Maybe we should get a new hobby and play some chess?
I can afford it but I'm not giving entire percentages of my income for a single part. As I said rounding my income down to 100K you're talking 1.5% of that for a single component when for the 2000 series that built a 2080 PC in full. I'm supporting AMD going forward, Nvidia can kick rocks
I bet one of the Xbox options lives up to expected numbers but comes at a cost
Not fair for me to ballpark numbers
For sure the power crown did nothing for them
I wouldnt be surprised if cross gen lasts the whole of next gen, ar least for some games/publsihers.
This.
Well at least graphics didnt stall in the PS2/Xbox gen. Games today look great on the whole, even some AA and Indie games.
I Want to be optimistic. Maybe the next gen cross gen games will be miles betyer as they will more or less runing on same architecture meaning ssd loading, ssd level design, unreal 5 optimizatiins etc.
I'm in the same camp. $2500 is less than my monthly savings but I still have zero interest in supporting this bullshit.
I don't think tsmc margins are super high considering they get lot from chips act alone. Looking at wiki they had 35% margin, you would expect like 20% for a bleeding edge tech with massive initial investment costs. So really if 4060 costs now 300 dollars and lot of its on nvidia maybe 10-20 dollar could be gotten from lower tsmc margins.
Get the average performance results from techpowerup. 1080ti was 67% more powerful on average than the 980ti. 2080ti was 35% and 3090 was around 50%.We have seen huge improvements in GPUs since early 2000 almost every / two years, but it seems that many people do not understand what has made this possible. It's not like Nvidia and ATI / AMD have been improving the architecture so much each year to get 2x increase in performance. The truth is that this progress has only been possible because TMSC has been able to offer more transistors at the same price every 1-2 years. Unfortunately we hit the node wall and Nvidia cannot improve performance without increasing price and power consumption anymore (RTX5090 with absolutely ridiculous 575TDP). Some people like to think that Nvidia is just greedy, but can we really expect them to cut prices when costs go up? That's not realistic.
So what does this mean for us gamers? Well, we can certainly say goodbye to cheap GPUs and meaningful improvements every 2 years.
980ti vs. 1080ti a whopping 92% relative difference even without DLSS / FG gimmicks. We can forget about such massive gains.
The good part is, current GPUs will last longer than ever.
Nor can we expect PS6 to bring the desired improvements. I doubt AMD will make APU that will be able to match even RTX4090 in the next few years. I was hoping to see PT used on the PS6, but things are not looking so good. Perhaps Sony should delay the PS6 until they can offer a meaningful performance / technology boost.
What can we do if things only get worse with our current hobby? Maybe we should get a new hobby and play some chess
The game is very scalable and still looks very good even with lumen.
Could you imagine if the PS5 couldn't even match a Maxwell Titan? (For reference it matches the Pascal titan in performance) That's basically what the 4090 is to the PS6. Sad times.We have seen huge improvements in GPUs since early 2000 almost every / two years, but it seems that many people do not understand what has made this possible. It's not like Nvidia and ATI / AMD have been improving the architecture so much each year to get 2x increase in performance. The truth is that this progress has only been possible because TMSC has been able to offer more transistors at the same price every 1-2 years. Unfortunately we hit the node wall and Nvidia cannot improve performance without increasing price and power consumption anymore (RTX5090 with absolutely ridiculous 575TDP). Some people like to think that Nvidia is just greedy, but can we really expect them to cut prices when costs go up? That's not realistic.
So what does this mean for us gamers? Well, we can certainly say goodbye to cheap GPUs and meaningful improvements every 2 years.
980ti vs. 1080ti a whopping 92% relative difference even without DLSS / FG gimmicks. We can forget about such massive gains.
The good part is, current GPUs will last longer than ever.
Nor can we expect PS6 to bring the desired improvements. I doubt AMD will make APU that will be able to match even RTX4090 in the next few years. I was hoping to see PT used on the PS6, but things are not looking so good. Perhaps Sony should delay the PS6 until they can offer a meaningful performance / technology boost.
What can we do if things only get worse with our current hobby? Maybe we should get a new hobby and play some chess
They are not selling to gamers but to companies pushing AI.
Besides doom 2016 there were quite a few games in techpowerup review, where 1080ti was 90%+ faster compared to previous generation.
Besides doom 2016 there were quite a few games in techpowerup review, where 1080ti was 90%+ faster compared to previous generation.
Anno - 28fps vs 54fps 93% relative difference
Battlefield 1 - 36fps vs 69fps 91% relative difference
COD Infinite Warfare - 44fps vs 84fps 91% relative difference
Fallout 4 - 40fps vs 78fps 95% relative difference
GTA5 - 44fps vs 84fps 91% relative difference
Hitman - 33fps vs 70fps 112% relative difference
Mafia 3 - 21fps vs 42fps 100% relative difference
Rise Of The Tomb Raider - 27 fps vs 52fps 92% relative difference
The Witcher 3 - 31fps vs 59fps 90% relative difference
Total War Warhammer - 22fps vs 42fps 90% relative difference
Watch Dogs 2 - 21fps vs 41fps 95% relative difference
There were also quite a few games with 80-89% relative difference. I think some games were CPU limited as well.
Based on all 25 games tested the 1080ti was 85% faster on average compared to 980ti, so IDK where you find that 67%.
The RTX4090 was only 46% faster on average compared to the 3090ti and I havent found a single raster game where the RTX4090 would be 90% faster compared to previous generation, or even close to 80%. The RTX4090 can be 2x faster, but only in RT, or if you use Frame Generation.
I'm glad you mentioned 2080ti. The RTX2080ti was released in 2018 and it took 7 years before console (PS5Pro) could match it's performance (the 2080ti is still faster, especially in RT, but not that much). How many years do you think it will take for AMD to build an APU that will be able to compete with the RTX4090, let alone the RTX5090?
Is this the Xbox I can play my Steam games on?
Please read what they wrote at the bottom.
You are looking at 1080p results, probably CPU bottlenecked with old i7. At 4K the 1080ti was 85% faster compared to the 980ti.
will pay more and more,