Let's Save the Neo Geo

My friend had a neo geo. I asked my parents for one. They saw the price and
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I was way too young when this came out but my uncle's friend had this console. We would play Samurai Showdown all night. Good Times. If anybody is interested, amazon's prime gaming has some of the Neo Geo games for free if you have prime. I keep em tucked away on my Pc in case I'm feeling nostalgic.
 
My pal had one of these (only child, Dad had loads of money! :messenger_tears_of_joy:)

Used to love playing Fatal Fury and Nam 75 on it. Everything about it was so premium, the joysticks in particular felt incredible.
 
Last Blade 2 all day, still today my favourite fighting game

I remember one of my friends had a Japanese imported one in the early 90's, he had to have a fan running constantly against the power supply otherwise it would overheat lol
 
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Console was doomed from the get go being that expensive and having no third party support. Hell, the price of the console was today's PS5 Pro price. With today's inflation, it should be more than US$1500

But was a nice machine that still holds up
 
deriks said:
Console was doomed from the get go being that expensive and having no third party support. Hell, the price of the console was today's PS5 Pro price. With today's inflation, it should be more than US$1500

But was a nice machine that still holds up
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That's how much the PS6 will cost...(1500) :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
Methos#1975 said:
It's sorta of crazy we haven't seen a Neogeo collection on a modern console. We need a 2nd SNK collection.
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Digital Eclipse did the SNK 40th collection which was 80s pre-NeoGeo stuff.

Then there's the ACA (Arcade Collection Archives) releases, some are individual games while others are bundled.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...a-neogeo-selection-vol-1-and-vol-2-for-switch

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/search/aca neogeo/

Or smaller series focused bundles like the Samurai Shodown one: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0576-CUSA17134_00-SAMUSHOCOLLEUS00
 
I had an Atari 2600 and then a SEGA Genesis for most of the early-mid 90s. It was either SNES or Genesis at school. I used to go over to my friends house all the time to play to his old NES too until I got one from my older cousin. Got like 200 hundred NES games from the video store for like a $100 when they blew them out. Then bought a SNES off of him for cheap.

I don't think any kids in my town were getting a Neo Geo no matter what. If you were getting another console it was the Nintendo or SEGA you didn't have. Then we all moved on to either to the N64 or PS1 and went to your buddies house to play the one you didn't have. As much as I was a SEGA kid nobody got a Saturn. Personally I went from Genesis to N64 for the wrestling games and Goldeneye then to PS2 to play GTA 3.

BTW Sega Lord X is awesome
 
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RAIDEN1 said:
One curious thing comes to mind, the Neo Geo never really had a game like Top Gear?
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Yeh it didn't have a single "behind the car" view game like outrun

It did have some good racing games however, like Thrash Rally, Neo Drift Out and Overtop

The Hyper Neo Geo 64, which was an arcade upgrade to the standard Neo Geo, had a game called Roads Edge that is like outrun but is fully 3D

 
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ReasonBeing said:
?? MVS cartridges (the arcade carts) didn't fit in the AES and vice versa.
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I don't remember using an adapter or if the board was modified(?) but I do remember I could only use specific carts. All I know is it did work with some games. The next time I travel to my brothers I will see if he still has any of it. If not, no big deal. I am not one of those prove it on the internet kind of people.
 
RoboFu said:
Fighting games are the most shallow. doesn't have anything to do with game mechanics which is a totally separate thing. all you have is 2 characters battling each other at a time in a laddered progression. the total game package is inherently shallow. its why they come with single player story modes these days.

getting good at a fighting game is like someone playing super Mario world 1- 1 over and over again to get the best time. There is depth to the gameplay but it's just one level.
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As a complete fighting ignorant I agree with you, however the genre is deep enough when you start looking at the different subgenres. Which is why when they add one character from one subgenre (Akuma) to a different subgenre (Tekken) it completely breaks the game (28:20, though the whole video is pretty interesting).

 
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SkylineRKR said:
There were phantom converters who did just that. It was lucrative for certain games like Metal Slug and Kizuna which used to be cheap on MVS.
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It makes sense that such a product existed. If I recall correctly, the only difference in the carts where the physical shape and "pin" layout. I was just thinking to myself "where would an arcade operator find such a product in the days before the internet", but then I remembered that's what the back of magazines were for, all the shady shit.
 
RAIDEN1 said:
One curious thing comes to mind, the Neo Geo never really had a game like Top Gear?
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My guess is that this is done with a ton of 1 pixel high sprites that they scroll left/right, but that's just a guess. It can't be done the same way as on other console since there is no background tilemap.
 
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Mephisto40 said:
Yeh it didn't have a single "behind the car" view game like outrun

It did have some good racing games however, like Thrash Rally, Neo Drift Out and Overtop

The Hyper Neo Geo 64, which was an arcade upgrade to the standard Neo Geo, had a game called Roads Edge that is like outrun but is fully 3D

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Hyper Neo Geo 64 is a cool concept, too bad it was overengineered. Different genres really didn't need their own boards that were incompatible with other boards.

Certain parts of Hyper Neo Geo 64 just seem contrarian to Neo Geo's design philosophy out of spite.
 
You don't cut corners on luxury items. Trying to sell a cheaper SKU would have cheapened the brand.
The NeoGeo lasted a long time (1990-2004), way longer that the competition. It doesnt need saving.
 
deriks said:
Console was doomed from the get go being that expensive and having no third party support. Hell, the price of the console was today's PS5 Pro price. With today's inflation, it should be more than US$1500

But was a nice machine that still holds up
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How is it doomed from the get-go, yet survived for 14 years? And that was during a time when consoles had about 5 years of longevity before getting the heave-ho for newer tech. To say nothing of the fact that it's still revered today, still gets 3rd-party games from indie studios, and the games were popular enough that they still see fit to port them to every single console under the sun even today.

It was a niche platform that was successful within that niche. I don't know how some people are construing that as a failure.
 
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I mean let's face it, there wasn't many that could claim they had a 24 bit system at the time, when others were firmly focused on the 16 bit scene...do the math!
 
Yeah, like most kids wanted Ione so bad. Also like most kids it was a pipe dream with that expensive (for 1990) console and those $200+ games (still insane to fathom).

Of course, I did have that one friend with "money was no object" grandparents that bought them everything- and got to play a fair bit over there. It was pretty insane- arcade perfect games (actual not even "arcade perfect" but actual arcade games at home which was unheard of in times where NES games were still releasing). Those game cartridges that were as large as a hardcover book, full arcade-stick controller. Amazing. God, I wish I was alive then with the money I got now, I'd be so broke :)
 
I was lucky enough to own one. Expensive fucker but being 12 with a paper route and no bills, plus an obsession with arcade quality games, and I spent way too much on that machine. It's hard to explain if you didn't live through that time, but for many many years console gamers would get inferior arcade ports of games and the dream of actual arcade quality games at home was a thing.

Sadly SNK couldn't help themselves in chasing that Street Fighter 2 money and the library got less and less diverse as it became increasing focused on 2d fighters. Where's my Magician Lord 2 you bastards!
 
Yeah the library is rather one note in the end. Its riddled with fighters, and the problem with fighters that there are only a few go to's people want to invest time in to learn. You don't need like 60 on a console. I doubt many gamers in the world cared about Karnov's Revenge, Savage Reign or Voltage Fighter and a dozen of others (to be honest, I think Kizuna and AoF suck ass too).

I thinned out my AES collection years ago, I sold a lot of fighters like AoF1 and 2, LB, Real Bout 2, KOF99 and 2k.

I kept KOF 98, FF Special (and FF3, because its secret a top 3 NG game for me), SS1 and 2 and thats it I think. The essentials are enough. I kind of regret selling Last Blade... but I am a total sucker for Samurai Shodown anyway. For me SS2 is the best 2D fighter of all time. Last Blade is... how do I put it, great music (some tracks actually hit my feels still). but I find the cast boring and the swordplay feels like they're hitting with paper... compare it to a counter hard slash in Shodown and you know what I mean.

I also still own Burning Fight. Speaking of, with so many good fighting games its a bit weird that with scrollers they absolutely missed the mark. None of them are as good as Final Fight in my book. Sengoku 1 and 2 have sort of lame gameplay and animations, Burning fight lacks impact and feels sluggish, Robo Army is.. kinda limited? Sengoku 3 is probably the best one, it looks amazing, has a good moveset but came out very, very late. And it removed the one cool thing about Sengoku, the morphs.

Its indeed a bit of a bummer SNK never made sequels to Magician Lord, Top Hunter or Spinmaster. Or improved on concepts like Super Spy or Cyber Lip (which I think was different enough from Slug). In the beginning they really did do some different things outside of fighting.

The melancholy in this track hits me in the feels (I kinda cheat with the CD ver. because its fucking flawless:





I think these are 10/10.

Little rant about NeoGeo CD: THIS SYSTEM HAS THE GOAT GAMING MUSIC. I'll die on this hill, the arrangements are generally that good. Like, Pasta from FF2.. jesus christ this was good. Or Way of rebirth, Kyo theme and K theme from KOF, total SS and Last Blade OST, AoF, Real Bout AST's...
 
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SkylineRKR said:
Yeah the library is rather one note in the end. Its riddled with fighters, and the problem with fighters that there are only a few go to's people want to invest time in to learn. You don't need like 60 on a console. I doubt many gamers in the world cared about Karnov's Revenge, Savage Reign or Voltage Fighter and a dozen of others (to be honest, I think Kizuna and AoF suck ass too).

I thinned out my AES collection years ago, I sold a lot of fighters like AoF1 and 2, LB, Real Bout 2, KOF99 and 2k.

I kept KOF 98, FF Special (and FF3, because its secret a top 3 NG game for me), SS1 and 2 and thats it I think. The essentials are enough. I kind of regret selling Last Blade... but I am a total sucker for Samurai Shodown anyway. For me SS2 is the best 2D fighter of all time. Last Blade is... how do I put it, great music (some tracks actually hit my feels still). but I find the cast boring and the swordplay feels like they're hitting with paper... compare it to a counter hard slash in Shodown and you know what I mean.

I also still own Burning Fight. Speaking of, with so many good fighting games its a bit weird that with scrollers they absolutely missed the mark. None of them are as good as Final Fight in my book. Sengoku 1 and 2 have sort of lame gameplay and animations, Burning fight lacks impact and feels sluggish, Robo Army is.. kinda limited? Sengoku 3 is probably the best one, it looks amazing, has a good moveset but came out very, very late. And it removed the one cool thing about Sengoku, the morphs.

Its indeed a bit of a bummer SNK never made sequels to Magician Lord, Top Hunter or Spinmaster. Or improved on concepts like Super Spy or Cyber Lip (which I think was different enough from Slug). In the beginning they really did do some different things outside of fighting.

The melancholy in this track hits me in the feels (I kinda cheat with the CD ver. because its fucking flawless:





I think these are 10/10.

Little rant about NeoGeo CD: THIS SYSTEM HAS THE GOAT GAMING MUSIC. I'll die on this hill, the arrangements are generally that good. Like, Pasta from FF2.. jesus christ this was good. Or Way of rebirth, Kyo theme and K theme from KOF, total SS and Last Blade OST, AoF, Real Bout AST's...
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I never knew anyone with a NEO GEO back in the day, but my local arcade had a MVS machine, so I don't really have much nostalgia for the games aside from Metal Slug and Puzzle Bobble (I was young) and I'm not much for fighting games, but I recently picked up a 8bitdo NEO GEO controller and finally after all these years decided to go through and actually play these games via emulation, and I must say that Cyber Lip was a standout title! I had NEVER heard of it, and I think you are the first person I've seen mention it around here. Very cool game and a shame it didn't get a sequel.
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I generally know every NG game. I've owned some 20 ish carts. I've played a few dozen in the arcade. And I had them all on Neorage back in the late 90's emulation days.

Neogeo was this moby dick. Drooling over the arcade cabs, seeing the likes of Samurai Shodown and weeping at my 16-bit console. In the end, many Gen/SNES games are actually better in hindsight, but it was about these sick visuals (the zoom effect in Shodown and bruises in AoF for example), loud sound effects etc. It was just bad ass. Unaffordable too, it had a certain grandeur. I remember reading a review of some NG cart, and then the RRP was listed (adjusted to dollars: 199 bucks) I was thinking this must be a typo. But it wasn't lol.

So, you become an adult, start to get disposable income. And in some impulse I just bought one in the early 2ks. I was lucky, because it turned out to be a low serial # with excellent RGB picture. And believe it or not, you could still get a small library for a reasonable price. Games like Shodown 2, FF Special, Sidekicks 2, Soccer Brawl, Nam 75 ... they were relatively cheap... usually below 50 bucks. But start today? Stay away. Nothing is cheap anymore. Better emulate, get an aliexpress x in 1 cart or w/e. I haven't bought a cart since... maybe 2009 or so. I'm good.

Cyber Lip I played in the arcade. It was one of the first NG games I saw and played back in 1991 or so. I've always wanted it for my machine. I should've bought it when the carts were at an all time low around the turn of the millenium. A few weeks ago I was actually searching the PS store for it, but it seems Hamster never ported it. Give Top Hunter a try, its kind of a different take on the run 'n gun. Spinmaster as well.
 
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NEO GEO is my go-to example when ever GAF decide to make another thread about wanting a powerful console. The companies are not stupid, they remember NEO GEO and how it was received. That is why Consoles are the budget option for gamers.
 
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