John Kowalski
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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
- Thread starter Dr. Buni
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Was listed as Katie, and it's a pretty common name, so I don't think it's 100 percent set that it was her buying drugs.
Frank gives her Chihuahua as her code name and most of the names are similar to personalities (Chloe-bulldog, Rott-Nathan) and that doesn't really describe Kate to me much.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Ignore it if you dont understand me
I have saved her every single time! Frank seems cool with Max, so maybe he'll save her...right? Shit, maybe Kate will get her revenge.
BronsonLee
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I wonder if Nathan having that gun is going to come into play...
In my play through he does, because I didn't let Warren get in that ass
In my play through he does, because I didn't let Warren get in that ass
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Deleted member 47027
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Not in my game...Nathan's neutered, as it should be.
I'm still undecided on Warren. At times he seems like a nice enough dude, other times there's just something off about him, can't quite put my finger on it. He has that line in ep.4 "I know how to stay inivisible here", which set my alarm bells ringing. We'll find out in ep.5 I guess.
Anyway, here's a nice cosplay of Victoria I found. So cool to see all the fan art and cosplay take off for this game.
I don't think Nathan having the gun or not will affect much. He doesn't strike me as someone that would have trouble finding another one. I think the purpose of that is for another chance to get a gun into Chloe's hand for the Frank scene outcomes. The game has offered a chance for her to lose or get a gun nearly every episode so they needed to have another chance for people that had ditched it in earlier ones.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Im gonna genderbend her style. Love her clothesI'm still undecided on Warren. At times he seems like a nice enough dude, other times there's just something off about him, can't quite put my finger on it. He has that line in ep.4 "I know how to stay inivisible here", which set my alarm bells ringing. We'll find out in ep.5 I guess.
Anyway, here's a nice cosplay of Victoria I found. So cool to see all the fan art and cosplay take off for this game.
Ultimadrago
Member
It'd be preferable if it just made good sense instead.
Teenage Timelords Photographer position here I come!
Yeah... that's my post.
I stand by it (at the time).
Given the surface evidence that you were blaming him for -- making Kate cry and run off? I think was the implication for the basis of the accusation, it didn't seem justified -- No one could call that!
People totally called that
What the fuck though, what the fuck. The fuck.
Edit: As bad as it is, I really liked the artwork they made for the photographs of tortured subjects -- context and all, sure, but that was some fine photography.
DirgeExtinction
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Holy shit at that cliffhanger for episode 4. What the fuck? Not them. 
The only reason I was the least bit suspicious of him is because he stuck around in the game and didn't really have any significance until the reveal at the end of 4, and said some odd stuff, mostly in that opening lecture. I didn't blame him trying to stay in Max's character though.
You're right about the photos. Those are well done, all the in game photos are so nicely done.
In the moment of Jefferson's first monologue I was focused on the ancillary elements around the class (character names, how interacting with the game-world for the first time works), and the rewind mechanics themselves. I never went back and just focused on more of the dialogue beyond the answers he wanted to hear (I think it was a quote from one of The Beatles, or something).
But looking at the photos around campus, that's some damn foreshadowing, but I can't see you even connecting them dots until you first enter the bunker.
And that double moon at the end, before you entered the party -- the way it flickered in the last shot -- it looked like Max's rewind visual-effects, are we to assume that that's implying something along the lines as the two timelines converging?
Also -- I'd love to get a catch all on any interesting theories and suspicions on the endgame, and predictions for the final episode. I guess what's really the reason for the storm is the big question mark.
To be honest the main thing that set people off wasn't that jefferson made kate cry, it was that he victim blamed and dismissed her. That + Chloe & Kate being date rape drugged. At the time you assume they may have been raped, and thats a fucing big thing for a teacher to be ignored. A good teacher would have gone "how are you coping with all this bullying" not "you are just doing this for attention, doncha think?"
Btw if you blame Jefferson but give him the picture of David harassing Kate, he'll use it to accuse David.
Btw if you blame Jefferson but give him the picture of David harassing Kate, he'll use it to accuse David.
How'd everyone do with the couple of actual sorta-proper puzzles in episode 4?
The actual break down of evidence I thought was great -- albeit involving a fair bit of trial and error. Although I was proud of the fact that I didn't just brute force it, the solutions were sensible, and quite captivating to find through attentive deduction, cross referencing all that info was satisfying -- it's something I would have loved to see in The Wolf Among Us, or something, it's a really good gamification of detective work, I believe this stands proudly next to something like L.A. Noire.
The second thing that stumped me was the 3 digit code to the bunker -- I went over every piece of evidence in the barn many, many times. I tried 722 and 724 -- for the dates on the old Prescott letter, and some of the prices for the groceries (and cocaine) on the old receipt. I even tried fruitlessly to find the keycode referenced in my diary, as I remember a 3 digit number in red text, it was on a piece of paper used to break into Nathans phone, but I couldn't find it despite flicking through every note in the game -- I looked out the front of the barn for a mailbox with address numbers on it, I looked on the broken car for a license plate with 3 numbers, I feel like I tried everything
But it turns out I was just supposed to press the variations of the 3 different numbers that were worn down -- something that I was only prompted to by Max after capping out my attempts on the keypad -- I kept rewinding after each failure, so I hear that hint for quite a long time.
Was there an another solution? Just curious if anyone else was trying to work out that code with the same mindset I had, or I just thought about it the wrong way.
Sorry for the excessive amounts of posts, coming off playing episodes 3 & 4 after a break from Kates suicide at the end of episode 2 has been quite a rush. I'm also the guy playing every Metal Gear for the first time this month, so between MGS and Life is Strange, good god has it been a good month for narrative and intrigue.
The actual break down of evidence I thought was great -- albeit involving a fair bit of trial and error. Although I was proud of the fact that I didn't just brute force it, the solutions were sensible, and quite captivating to find through attentive deduction, cross referencing all that info was satisfying -- it's something I would have loved to see in The Wolf Among Us, or something, it's a really good gamification of detective work, I believe this stands proudly next to something like L.A. Noire.
The second thing that stumped me was the 3 digit code to the bunker -- I went over every piece of evidence in the barn many, many times. I tried 722 and 724 -- for the dates on the old Prescott letter, and some of the prices for the groceries (and cocaine) on the old receipt. I even tried fruitlessly to find the keycode referenced in my diary, as I remember a 3 digit number in red text, it was on a piece of paper used to break into Nathans phone, but I couldn't find it despite flicking through every note in the game -- I looked out the front of the barn for a mailbox with address numbers on it, I looked on the broken car for a license plate with 3 numbers, I feel like I tried everything
But it turns out I was just supposed to press the variations of the 3 different numbers that were worn down -- something that I was only prompted to by Max after capping out my attempts on the keypad -- I kept rewinding after each failure, so I hear that hint for quite a long time.
Was there an another solution? Just curious if anyone else was trying to work out that code with the same mindset I had, or I just thought about it the wrong way.
Sorry for the excessive amounts of posts, coming off playing episodes 3 & 4 after a break from Kates suicide at the end of episode 2 has been quite a rush. I'm also the guy playing every Metal Gear for the first time this month, so between MGS and Life is Strange, good god has it been a good month for narrative and intrigue.
I'm pretty sure the code is on one of the pieces of evidence that's on Nathan's part of the board in Chloe's room. I didn't even notice that some of the numbers were worn down but remembered that one of his notes had a three digit number on so I checked the note in the pause menu then entered that code and got it first time.
I just butchered my execution then. I couldn't find Nathans note, so I assumed some of the key evidence from that last scene was no longer available for viewing. I just couldn't filter it out of everything else. That's my bad, completely -- but I'm glad to know the solution is there as theorized, and I'm even happier that there is an alternate solution, alternate solutions are always appreciated.
BronsonLee
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I loved the puzzles. The piecing together of the evidence was nice and simple, but it felt like you were making progress.
The phone reset thing was weird. I didn't get it right, so I had to enter the PUK, but it's nice that they had it fork a bit and not just be 'hey, enter all these numbers!'
The code to the bunker I got IMMEDIATELY only because it was a 3 digit code, and there was one on Nathan's piece of paper. It was the only 3 digit code. Pop it in, bewm.
The phone reset thing was weird. I didn't get it right, so I had to enter the PUK, but it's nice that they had it fork a bit and not just be 'hey, enter all these numbers!'
The code to the bunker I got IMMEDIATELY only because it was a 3 digit code, and there was one on Nathan's piece of paper. It was the only 3 digit code. Pop it in, bewm.
ironichaos
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For the phone, I think it was the digits of his B-Day (month and date). For the barn, it was the red colored numbers on his note.
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Deleted member 80556
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It was a bit obvious for me. I hear one time that your average teenager uses his or her birthday date as a phone password. And considering we're in USA I though it used MM/DD format, and apparently that worked for some people!
I used DD/MM format because I thought "hey the devs are French, and they couldn't have possibly have been that meticulous!" And yet they were, pretty awesome.
Love the reaction.
all you had to do was submit your photo
you blamed him in episode 2? that doesn't even make sense, he wasn't suspicious at that point and had nothing to do with Kate trying to jump
Victoria is mean but if you're not an asshole to her in episode 1 you can see she's actually a good person but obviously insecure and desperate to succeed
Warren is fucking trash, i was super sad that they didn't let me lower his score in Ms Grant's class
He told you to enter your fucking photo. Now he has Max to take all the photos in the world.
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Deleted member 80556
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I understand you guys not liking Warren and I am on the group who wants to leave him in the friendzone, but going out of your way to fuck a friend over is just wrong lol.
BronsonLee
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Typical victim blaming, why it gotta be Max's fault?!
And yeah, Warren's going to save the day because Jefferson is trying to stop you from Going Ape
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A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
I disagree, when you talk to him after Kate runs away from him crying, if you talk to him about her, he tells you she brought it on herself and it was all her fault. I doubt he was much kinder to Kate herself.
Warren risked getting shot to defend you. He might be thirsty as fuck and a bit of a creeper but this is an action of someone is, as many of you are quick to point out, a "good" person, deep down, or at their core, or whatever.
Fucking seriously! Some of the things you guys are saying are just incredible.
The one good thing that can be attributed to Victoria in this game is that she was nice to Taylor at some nonspecific time a while ago. That's it! She's never once shown any other trace of goodness, but you guys are so quick to defend her because, what? Is it because she's hot? If Victoria looked like Alyssa would you feel this way too? Because that's the only way I can explain this.
Fucking seriously! Some of the things you guys are saying are just incredible.
The one good thing that can be attributed to Victoria in this game is that she was nice to Taylor at some nonspecific time a while ago. That's it! She's never once shown any other trace of goodness, but you guys are so quick to defend her because, what? Is it because she's hot? If Victoria looked like Alyssa would you feel this way too? Because that's the only way I can explain this.
BronsonLee
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Warren is Skylar from Breaking Bad. That's why people don't like him.
There's also a lot more characterization to Victoria so far. She seems more complex. Warren's just a dude!
Also freaking lol at Victoria just bodying Max in the all negative interaction. Max can't handle the banter
There's also a lot more characterization to Victoria so far. She seems more complex. Warren's just a dude!
Also freaking lol at Victoria just bodying Max in the all negative interaction. Max can't handle the banter
I think they're both about even in terms of complexity.
You know who's just a dude?
Zachary. He's the dudest dude.
Oh right. Let's not forget Victoria was sexting with Zach and then pinned it on Juliet's dormmate, Dana (both of these girls are pretty cool actually, if not very developed).
But still a "good person" if you just look past her completely assholish behavior.
You know who's just a dude?
Zachary. He's the dudest dude.
Oh right. Let's not forget Victoria was sexting with Zach and then pinned it on Juliet's dormmate, Dana (both of these girls are pretty cool actually, if not very developed).
But still a "good person" if you just look past her completely assholish behavior.
I'm curious to know why there's a general dislike towards Warren. In my playthrough, seems to be a bit of a dork, but I'm sure he means well. If anything, the guy probably never had a serious relationship before & he doesn't have a clue with how to approach talking to women.
BronsonLee
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Not even close. Warren's pretty easy to follow. And he doesn't have a lot of character moments until Ep 4, where he can beat the fucking shit out of Nathan. In terms of character development, it basically goes Max -> Chloe -> Victoria. She's got a lot going on.
Again, when it comes to blaming Jefferson in Episode 2, it is the only thing that you can 100% be sure you have proof of when you point the finger. Why? Because the game puts it in your way. You literally have to see it go down to progress.
At that point you don't have hard proof against Nathan nor do you necessarily have proof that David tried to interrogate Kate.
It may seem weak on the surface, but like at the beginning of Episode 1, it's right there in your face. It's obvious. Why would the game force you to see something like that if it weren't super important?
At that point you don't have hard proof against Nathan nor do you necessarily have proof that David tried to interrogate Kate.
It may seem weak on the surface, but like at the beginning of Episode 1, it's right there in your face. It's obvious. Why would the game force you to see something like that if it weren't super important?
What's the difference between seeing David bullying Kate yourself and seeing Jefferson act cold to her?
You have no proof in either case (well, you can have proof for the David thing), just your first hand witness account. Both are required to progress.
That's not what I was talking about. I'm was speaking of the sum of their character, and Victoria's not really that much more complicated than Warren. She and her gang are the Mean Girls transliterated to an artsy fartsy school.
Witnesses. When Max runs into Kate and David, no one else sees what's going on. Everyone can see Kate leaving the school after talking with Jefferson, even the Principal. It's simply that Max is there to hear some of the details. But with the David situation, you have a choice to interrupt or take a photo. So if you don't have that photo, you don't have proof on David, nor do you have anyone to corroborate the story, ESPECIALLY if Kate is dead.
So assuming the main story is 100% linear, David being the bad guy is simply not an option because the bad guy of the story has to be an absolute. You're down to Nathan and Jefferson at that point, but you simply have nothing on Nathan at that point.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Is there any way to resize display area in this game? Or do I just have to do it from the PS4's settings OS.
Ultimadrago
Member
all you had to do was submit your photo
I don't think I'll ever not find that joke funny.
Also, even though I'm Team "Chloe (RIP) holding censored hands with Max", Warren's a great bro. Hesitates none to save our ass from Coo-Coo Nathan and helps us make makeshift bombs to open Principal doors.
Cheers to you, man.
It made decent sense to me, but not in the direct way that most would think. I didn't think he was a murdering, drugging psychopath, but I did run a process of elimination to choose him.
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Deleted member 80556
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That joke will be the GOAT forever.
Thunder Monkey
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all you had to do was submit your photo
you blamed him in episode 2? that doesn't even make sense, he wasn't suspicious at that point and had nothing to do with Kate trying to jump
Victoria is mean but if you're not an asshole to her in episode 1 you can see she's actually a good person but obviously insecure and desperate to succeed
Warren is fucking trash, i was super sad that they didn't let me lower his score in Ms Grant's class
I blamed everyone.
First time through Nathan. Second blamed David. Third blamed Jefferson.
I'm one of those peeps story branching devs hate. "This one of his Shephards fell in love with Jacob." "This one too... no wait, he died on the suicide run." "This one too!" "Dammit, they both have different endings for his loyalty mission."
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Deleted member 80556
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Maybe it's a love-hate relationship, at least the content they made is being seen by more people!
Usually, the real limit on branching stories in voice-acted games is simply budget. The more detailed the cutscenes are, the more expensive it is to really branch and it has diminishing returns since most players won't see everything despite all of it still being made.
So really, Monkey, you're the kind of player that story devs love most, because they know none of their work is going to waste. The ones they hate are the people who never think to replay a game to do things differently. In that cause they just wasted a 2/3rds of their budget creating content players won't see.
So really, Monkey, you're the kind of player that story devs love most, because they know none of their work is going to waste. The ones they hate are the people who never think to replay a game to do things differently. In that cause they just wasted a 2/3rds of their budget creating content players won't see.