Likely GOP hopeful Ben Carson call Obama a psychopath

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Hey, Doc! Doc! Can you give me an example of psychological projection?

Later in the exchange, Carson accused Obama of knowingly selling the American public "a lie."

"He's trying to sell what he thinks is not true!" Carson reportedly said. "He's sitting there saying, 'These Americans are so stupid I can tell them anything.'

Thanks, Doc!
 
I felt like Jon Huntsman spent the entire 2012 election in sheer disbelief that he was losing to all the crazy people.
Huntsman was everything the media tried to make Romney - moderate, charming, likable. I don't know if he could have beaten Obama but he would have been a great candidate and also one of the only living Republicans I'd trust to be president and not fuck everything up. All of these are reasons why he gained no traction.

Ben Carson is living proof that you can be a brilliant surgeon, doctor, lawyer etc. whatever and still be a fucking idiot.
 
Ben Carson is basically the only Republican black person that the old people tea party voters trust. I would gather that a good portion of voters might tend to agree with him on these statements. Of course, some of that is probably from parroting.
 
I find it hard to believe he actually believes the stuff he is saying. Surely it has to be ploy to garner the support of the really far right minority.
 
I've had a pretty damn long personal conversation with Armstrong Williams before and the fact that he's Carson's chief advisor explains so much of the crazy shit Carson says.
 
Is the GOP actually gonna go even further to the right than in 2012?

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Yep, because they believe the reason they lost last time is that they didn't go far enough.

It's going to be quite the shitshow this year.
 
So, are all the 'potential' GOP candidates throwing themselves on the crazy grenade to try and make one of them (Jeb) look normal?
 
Why are most of the people in the Republican party crazy? I don't even live in the states yet I continually hear about Republican party members stupidity. How are they even relevant? Who votes for these fucked up people?
 
Why are most of the people in the Republican party crazy? I don't even live in the states yet I continually hear about Republican party members stupidity. How are they even relevant? Who votes for these fucked up people?

Old white people vote for them, for one.
 
Yep, because they believe the reason they lost last time is that they didn't go far enough.

It's going to be quite the shitshow this year.

This false narrative of not being conservative enough being the reason for losing will destroy them yet again. And they will point to the mid-terms and be baffled once more.
 
Well, I think Carson might draw the line there for obvious reasons.
There are plenty of black people who parrot white racism: https://youtu.be/2sL2f0PoqME
I wouldn't doubt it if Carson was the same way.
I fully expect them to use that word eventually.

I am sure plenty of them already do. There are plenty of examples of elected Republicans sending racist emails... Rick Santorum almost said it once: https://youtu.be/egtaV6Pj8yI.
 
Why are most of the people in the Republican party crazy? I don't even live in the states yet I continually hear about Republican party members stupidity. How are they even relevant? Who votes for these fucked up people?

There's a social mechanism involved that you can find in a lot of countries, not only the US.

As you grow in age, you will tend to accumulate assets. Be it house, car, bank account, whatever. But the more assets and well-earned comfort you have, the more you'll resent having to pay taxes on your earnings (your improving situation reduce the subsidings you get in return), and resent seeing those taxes helping those who got unlucky in life. The right-wing of the political party is (in appearance) less of a threat to what you accumulated over your life of effort.

Of course, in the end, you will pay just as many taxes with the right wing, in addition to seeing you country's financial and social structure crumble under the assaults of private interests. But to understand that require you to pay attention to politics, and to use multiples sources of information. Which already rule out most of the population.
 
So do a lot of young folks, quite a few of them lurking this thread...

Sure some young people do, just like some black people do. But in the end there is nothing inaccurate about saying the right is largely comprised of old white voters with a male tilt.
 
The pandering to the crazy side of the Republican base continues. The Repub primaries will be about racking up the most brownie points with tea partiers by saying the innane things they want to hear, followed by rapid backpedaling during the general election in an attempt to make themselves less scary to the general populous.
 
And Carson responded: "Like most psychopaths. That's why they're successful. That's the way they look. They all look great."

Later in the exchange, Carson accused Obama of knowingly selling the American public "a lie."

"He's trying to sell what he thinks is not true!" Carson reportedly said. "He's sitting there saying, 'These Americans are so stupid I can tell them anything.'"
Congratulations, you have discovered politics! (You're not doing any better)
 
I have been wishing for years that a politician or Fox News cast member would be caught by a hot mic calling Obama that.

I think there must be a "talk" that every Fox Newser gets when they get hired telling them that they can pretty much say anything insane but just don't call anybody that particular word. Proceeded by a list of acceptable dog whistle code words that convey the same meaning.
 
I hope he formally announces soon. I didn't think it was possible to top last election's republican field of Herman Cain, Rick Perry, and Michelle Bachmann but this year if Carson and Trump run to compliment Cruz, this field might be the most entertaining yet.
 
Ben Carson is basically the only Republican black person that the old people tea party voters trust. I would gather that a good portion of voters might tend to agree with him on these statements. Of course, some of that is probably from parroting.
There's a few of them. But they are all batshit crazy. Alan Keyes, Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Alan West. They key seems to be having a hardcore conservative religious mindset.
 
Ben Carson is basically the only Republican black person that the old people tea party voters trust. I would gather that a good portion of voters might tend to agree with him on these statements. Of course, some of that is probably from parroting.

It's been a "thing" ever since Obama was elected t find the craziest, most hardcore black republicans and bring them to the forefront as a way of saying "see, we're not racist!".
 
Jeb Bush is gonna look the most sane come the primaries.

Thinking it can all be a ploy to get him the grace of all repubs.

Except, Bush needs to secure the nomination first. And while he's far more liberal and centre-right than his colleagues, they're going to inevitably drag him to the right and cost him the election. These guys will give patriotic and jingoistic speeches, shut the borders, no abortions, Christianity is America, Obama is worse than Hitler, repeal Obamacare. This will whip their voting base into a frenzy. Just look at how guys like Santorum caused the somewhat more moderates like Huntsman to drop out in 2012. And so, if Bush, who knows he needs Democratic and immigrant voters says, I won't shut the borders, he'll have a hard time first pandering to the right. Republicans are probably going to screw themselves over again. It's not their base they need to worry about, it's getting the more centre-right, centre-left, and even some extreme-left voters to vote for them. There were lots of Republicans who voted for Obama simply because he was the best choice.
 
The GQ piece: http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party

The woman answered Carson's question about political parties, telling him that there were Labor and Likud and a host of other factions in the Knesset. "And what is the role of the Knesset?"

"Perhaps we can move over here," the lieutenant colonel suggested, steering Carson's group to a quieter spot to discuss the nearby Syrian civil war. He claimed that most of the Islamist fighters weren't Syrian but came from Morocco and Europe. "It's just like the troublemakers in Ferguson," Carson said, betraying a habit of wedging the unfamiliar into a context he understands.

On several occasions, I tried to get Carson to concede that his analogy likening the U.S. to Nazi Germany was out of line (he's said that Americans under Obama are as intimidated and afraid to criticize their government as Germans under the Third Reich). But he refused to give any ground. Our longest discussion about the matter came in Jerusalem, in the cafeteria of the Holocaust museum at Yad Vashem. We'd spent the previous ninety minutes touring the museum, followed by Carson entering Yad Vashem's Hall of Remembrance and, black kippah atop his head, laying a wreath made of red, pink, and orange poppies that read "Courage and Truth Will Win: In loving memory the 6 million." Given all this, I asked Carson, did it make him reconsider his analogy?

"Not at all," he said. "It makes it even stronger."

Carson heard some noise from a construction site, and he flinched. "Was that machine-gun fire?" he asked.
 
Huntsman was everything the media tried to make Romney - moderate, charming, likable. I don't know if he could have beaten Obama but he would have been a great candidate and also one of the only living Republicans I'd trust to be president and not fuck everything up. All of these are reasons why he gained no traction.
To steal from myself:
The Jon Hunstman who signed tons of bills against abortion and wants a "Right To Life" Amendment and supports the death penalty and wants even greater laws against drugs and school vouchers and term limits for Congress and to roll back current gun control laws and wants to repeal ObamaCare and cut taxes extensively dropping the corporate and top rate to 25% and opposes any energy subsides even to green energy. That Jon Huntsman?

Or is his gay marriage support and mild support of immigration enough?
 
regarding his remarks about homosexuality it is a clear case of projection. he thinks being gay means acting gay. he doesn't understand that they actually are some people that are not attracted to men. so in his world view or he thinks being gay means acting gay it totally makes sense.
 
The thing is the "crazy wing" is pretty much half the party at this point. They simply can't afford to lose the votes since it would destroy any chance at the presidency for decades. It's also the only segment that seems to be growing, which is likely due to Obama and may perhaps fade once the Kenyan mooslum is dethroned.

The moderate Republicans brought this on themselves but sadly we are all paying the price for their lack of principals.

Oh if Hilary is elected you'll have the same bullshit just switched from racial lines to gender lines.
 
Carson's comments are so ridiculous, I had to drill down on this story. The GQ article linked to in the CNN post is quite entertaining. Check it.out, guys. Ben Carson is an interesting fellow.

I'm a little sad about not being able to vote in the primary.
 
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