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[Arkangelus0]

Links awakening Remake was a mistake for a Remake, the original gameboy game along with the Oracle series, played amazing to this Day (we can argue it needed extra buttons because how many times you can pause)

On other hands the only 2 games zelda REALLY need remakes are both NES GAMES, outdated, Hard as fuck, need practically a guide

Those 2 could benefit for a Remake for game play

 

[Captain Toad]

You were a mistake. Link's Awakening remake was great.

And it DID need the remake. The original had annoying limitations. Two buttons required constant pausing of the game to swap items. And the original had a super annoying feature that paused gameplay to give you a description of the item you just picked up, even if it's the 500th time.

 

[bender]

You probably start to limit your audience with games made prior to LTTP.

 

[Piercatore]

You were a mistake. Link's Awakening remake was great.

 

[Arkangelus0]

You were a mistake. Link's Awakening remake was great.

And it DID need the remake. The original had annoying limitations. Two buttons required constant pausing of the game to swap items. And the original had a super annoying feature that paused gameplay to give you a description of the item you just picked up, even if it's the 500th time.

Just because your parents dont know how to use a condom, dont need to project yourself here

And just because a game made you pause and give you item description, that its not a reason to remake a game, you can always romhack the game and patch it, like the Nintendo DX series

The game of 1993 is still top game design

 

[bender]

Just because your parents dont know how to use a condom, dont need to project yourself here

 

[Arkangelus0]

You probably start to limit your audience with games made prior to LTTP.

And what made you believe that? NES GAMES are everywhere, people alredy familiar with zelda from NES even maainstream media know nes pixel link

 

[Jennings]

Just because your parents dont know how to use a condom, dont need to project yourself here

And just because a game made you pause and give you item description, that its not a reason to remake a game, you can always romhack the game and patch it, like the Nintendo DX series

The game of 1993 is still top game design

Last I heard Link's Awakening remake sold 3 to 4 million units. That's a lot of ROMhacking that would never have happened.

The remake introduced the game to a whole new generation of gamers that don't even know what a ROM is.

 

[Arkangelus0]

Last I heard Link's Awakening remake sold 3 to 4 million units. That's a lot of ROMhacking that would never have happened.

The remake introduced the game to a whole new generation of gamers that don't even know what a ROM is..

And If it was zelda 1, Zelda 2,ALLTP or 1 of the DS games was remade instead, what made you believe they dont sell 3 of 4 millions?

 

[Bragr]

Nah, the gameboy version has some really old outdated parts, most people would never play that game or know where to find it, the remake opened it to a new audience, and it was a great and beautiful remake.

 

[Jsisto]

Perhaps the original game does still play well, but you can't expect the average gamer to track down old hardware to play it, and that's also not financially lucrative for Nintendo. Personally, I loved it, as did a lot of other people based on the sales. You can have the opinion that maybe it wasn't the Zelda most in need of a remake, that's entirely subjective, but saying it was a mistake is a bit harsh.

 

[Jennings]

And If it was zelda 1, Zelda 2,ALLTP or 1 of the DS games was remade instead, what made you believe they dont sell 3 of 4 millions?

There's no need to, children can just ROMhack those games.

 

[bender]

And what made you believe that?

God tapped me on the shoulder and whispered it into my ear.

 

[OldBoyGamer]

I thought the remake was really good myself.

 

[Kataploom]

Links awakening Remake was a mistake for a Remake, the original gameboy game along with the Oracle series, played amazing to this Day (we can argue it needed extra buttons because how many times you can pause)

On other hands the only 2 games zelda REALLY need remakes are both NES GAMES, outdated, Hard as fuck, need practically a guide

Those 2 could benefit for a Remake for game play

Damn you're so right, I've been wanting to play it btw, I should try finding a Gameboy color on my country with that very very very very niche game here (anything not Pokemon on Gameboy is niche here) instead of just buying it on Switch

 

[Arkangelus0]

Damn you're so right, I've been wanting to play it btw, I should try finding a Gameboy color on my country with that very very very very niche game here (anything not Pokemon on Gameboy is niche here) instead of just buying it on Switch

Or game and watch series released Last year, Or a cheap 3ds, and the rumored NSO gameboy

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Marin herself is the best of Links awakening

 

[Danjin44]

Not for me, I really like Link's Awakening Remake.

 

[Kataploom]

Or game and watch series released Last year, Or a cheap 3ds, and the rumored NSO gameboy

So you're telling me a game should not exist on the current platform which takes no more than opening the eShop and buying it and instead people should have just taken extra steps/longer path to play it on very very very very niche device that wasn't even produced at the same scale than the remake was sold or an old console for which eShop is gonna be closed soon and for which games are attached to hardware?

I'm probably breaking your life notions here, but games are not made out of creative impulse, but of business, so the remake was made in order to sell it to another audience. The remake is necessary for what it was created for: Selling more.

 

[Arkangelus0]

God tapped me on the shoulder and whispered it into my ear.

Well imaginary friend give you imaginary facts

So you're telling me a game should not exist on the current platform which takes no more than opening the eShop and buying it and instead people should have just taken extra steps/longer path to play it on very very very very niche device that wasn't even produced at the same scale than the remake was sold or an old console for which eShop is gonna be closed soon and for which games are attached to hardware?

I'm probably breaking your life notions here, but games are not made out of creative impulse, but of business, so the remake was made in order to sell it to another audience. The remake is necessary for what it was created for: Selling more.

No, im saying its a mistake to remake a game Who dont really needed a Remake when it has an amazing gameplay to this Day, when there are other games on the saga Who really need remakes like both zelda nes games

And im saying the original GBC should be avaible to play on modern consoles

about busisness perspective, what information made you believe links awakening Remake could sell more then zelda 1 remake?

 

[bender]

Well

 

[Kataploom]

Well imaginary friend give you imaginary facts

No, im saying its a mistake to remake a game Who dont really needed a Remake when it has an amazing gameplay to this Day, when there are other games on the saga Who really need remakes like both zelda nes games

And im saying the original GBC should be avaible to play on modern consoles

about busisness perspective, what information made you believe links awakening Remake could sell more then zelda 1 remake?

None, they just decided to remake that one. They'll remake others later eventually.

 

[Jsisto]

Hmmm…only thing I'd say is that Links awakening is a significantly more modern game in its design compared to Zelda 1, making it much easier to remake for a modern audience. Zelda 1 by comparison is very archaic in just about every area and would not hold up as well without significant gameplay tweaks. It would take a lot more than a shiny new coat of paint. I am hoping we get a LttP remake soon, though!

 

[Sleepwalker]

I didn't play the original but liked the remake, and no, I wouldn't have played the original, still won't.

 

[Gamer79]

Links awakening Remake was a mistake for a Remake, the original gameboy game along with the Oracle series, played amazing to this Day (we can argue it needed extra buttons because how many times you can pause)

On other hands the only 2 games zelda REALLY need remakes are both NES GAMES, outdated, Hard as fuck, need practically a guide

Those 2 could benefit for a Remake for game play

It's one of the best Zelda games in years. Probably top 5 game on switch. You have piss poor game judgement.

 

[bender]

It's one of the best Zelda games in years. Probably top 5 game on switch. You have piss poor game judgement.

What information were you given to make you think he has piss poor judgement? Imaginary facts! Do your parents know how to use condoms?

 

[Gamer79]

What information were you given to make you think he has piss poor judgement? Imaginary facts! Do your parents know how to use condoms?

The best part of you ended up in one.

 

[bender]

The best part of you ended up in one.

From a business perspective, what makes you think that?

 

[Max_Po]

I thought it was great. I finished it twice.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

 

[Tams]

It is beautifully made and introduced an old game to a lot younger people who never would have even heard of it otherwise. It also fixed some issues and sold very well.

Most people are not going to emulate games, tracking down ROMs in a legal grey area. And old games often do not hold up well.

tl;dr: OP, you're clueless.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Finished it twice. once on Switch and again on Yuzu @4k/60fps. The game is piss easy, but I still enjoyed it. I just wish the bosses were more thought provoking and lasted longer than a min.

 

[Boy bawang]

I generally dislike 1:1 remakes. Link's Awakening was good enough in 2D as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Chastten]

Well, I for one enjoyed it. I never really played it as a kid, and without the nostalgia goggles, its hard to go back to Game Boy games.

The Switch game played perfectly however. Had it not existed, I would've probably never played Link's Awakening.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

The GB original is one of my favorite games and one of my fondest gaming memories. I've played it more times than I can count. And I, too, would want it available on every Nintendo hardware.

That said, the remake is excellent and it was needed to introduce the game to more people, especially with the Switch's success. Fewer people are interested in old games than you think. Making GB games playable on Switch wouldn't mean people would go and try them, even if it's Zelda.

While the remake is so faithful that I finished it twice in the span of a day, and while I'd have done some things differently, I still like that it exists.

 

[SantaC]

Lazy remake with no extra content

 

[Doctor Hades]

Personally, I thought Link's Awakening remake was lacklustre. The visuals are nice and gameplay is fine but it ran poorly with stuttering which is not something I expected from a key Nintendo franchise.. I just stopped playing it for that reason as it never felt smooth for very long.

 

[Knightime_X]

You're wrong, and that's not how mistakes work.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Personally, I thought Link's Awakening remake was lacklustre. The visuals are nice and gameplay is fine but it ran poorly with stuttering which is not something I expected from a key Nintendo franchise.. I just stopped playing it for that reason as it never felt smooth for very long.

I think the remake did bring the game successfully to a new audience, but I would encourage people to try to play the old game again (I would love for a pixel art remake, maybe an HD-2D version?). Still, you touch in a good point, it was uncharacteristically unpolished performance wise at launch even DF noted in their video review. It was not the worst game ever performance wise, but it had more problems than Nintendo games usually have.

 

[TintoConCasera]

The stuttering it had when changing screens and specially in the swamp are criminal, specially for a Zelda game.

That aside, the game looked cute as fuck and I had a lot of fun with it. Will probably replay it soon, wonder how it looks/runs on an emulator.

 

[lostinblue]

Links awakening Remake was a mistake for a Remake, the original gameboy game along with the Oracle series, played amazing to this Day (we can argue it needed extra buttons because how many times you can pause)

I love the original game dearly, but there's nothing wrong with updating a masterpiece for a new crowd.

They were thankfully respectful with the content and didn't try to re-imagine it or cut content so it's all good.

If anything, it's a pity they didn't do Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons next.


Also a shame they didn't redo Link to the Past after A Link Between Worlds remaking and sharing the overworld.

The stuttering it had when changing screens and specially in the swamp are criminal, specially for a Zelda game.

Yeah, they discovered it was due to Unreal Engine being used.

Bound to be fixed on the Switch 2/Pro. The issue of course is how underpowered the system is.

Lazy remake with no extra content

The game already has a lot of extra content from Link's Awakening DX

Finished it twice. once on Switch and again on Yuzu @4k/60fps. The game is piss easy, but I still enjoyed it. I just wish the bosses were more thought provoking and lasted longer than a min.

Hard to disagree with that.

Bosses and difficulty are always what Nintendo could rework and make better but never does when it comes to reworking games. They've even gone as far as making them shittier (Majora Mask 3D)

 

[AV]

Need is a weird word. You're right, it didn't really need one, but it was still amazing. Only real ones know LA is actually the best Zelda game.

That said, they really need to let Capcom remake the Oracle games for Switch in one bundle that seamlessly links the games.

IMO If you remade Zelda 1 or 2 now and made a ton of changes to modernise those games I think they'd lose all their flavour. There's really not much reason to go back and play them beyond curiosity as a fan of the series, you're not missing out on some legendary experience.

 

[cireza]

Don't touch the first two games. They are the best from the series.

They should simply re-release the GB games in a collection. The Switch should be able to handle as much.

 

[Business]

I thought it was fantastic, the new art style was beautiful too.

 

[lostinblue]

That said, they really need to let Capcom remake the Oracle games for Switch in one bundle that seamlessly links the games.

They don't need Capcom.

Flagship dissolved aeons ago and the Director of Oracle of Ages/Seasons works at Nintendo now. He is the director behind Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild.

 

[AV]

They don't need Capcom.

Flagship dissolved aeons ago and the Director of Oracle of Ages/Seasons works at Nintendo now. He is the director behind Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild.

Either or - I assume Capcom must still retain some Flagship talent even today and it would feel "right" in some way for them to handle remakes/remasters of the 3 mainline Zelda games they made, going hand-in-hand with their recent string of remake successes.

That said, I really don't mind who takes care of it, I just need it in my life. Those games are deeply underrated and a remake rolling them together with a few QOL tweaks (ring system) would be so nice.

 

[Tams]

Lazy remake with no extra content

Mate, they pretty much had to make a whole new game. Sure, no new story to come up with or gameplay and design, but it still all had to be coded and the art designed.

 

[lostinblue]

Either or - I assume Capcom must still retain some Flagship talent even today and it would feel "right" in some way for them to handle remakes/remasters of the 3 mainline Zelda games they made, going hand-in-hand with their recent string of remake successes.

Apart from the director, they did retain most people yes. (I looked it up on Mobygames a good source for this sort of thing)

That said, I really don't mind who takes care of it, I just need it in my life. Those games are deeply underrated and a remake rolling them together with a few QOL tweaks (ring system) would be so nice.

I agree, they're the perfect footprint of a portable game that doesn't just play homage to the real thing.

Minish Cap is also good, but not as good.

Mate, they pretty much had to make a whole new game. Sure, no new story to come up with or gameplay and design, but it still all had to be coded and the art designed.

I agree. If there's anything Grezzo isn't, is lazy.

They should be expanded and handle everything that's an enhanced remake for Nintendo, Mario games, Zelda games, Metroid games. They're the one Nintendo dev that could remake something like Rareware's Donkey Kong Country trilogy with all remade assets and looking mostly the same. Their attention to detail is staggering.

The one thing they can be faulted is that despite the fact that everything they do is a work of labour, they're still bound to whatever Nintendo tells them to do.

 

[Jim Ryan other Clone]

OP thread is shit but his banter is top quality.

 

[Trilobit]

You know what...I didn't care much for Link's Awakening when I played it on the Switch. It had limited exploration and was very confusing when you needed to go to the next objective. I often thought that I would have preferred a remake of ALttP instead.

It was gorgeous, but felt very outdated otherwise.