GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
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You've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
donkey show
Member
That's pretty awesome! I'll be sure to share this with the rest of the team tomorrow.Boyos, I made a youtube speed paining for LBP3. Loved LBP2 and SMG as they were my favorite platformers last generation, so I included this. I usually show 90-95% of my progress before the final is revealed, but I took an extra day for this one until I was satisfied with the final result. Hope fans of the series actually enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blDi04fC6NE
This & F4 are day 1 pre-ordered.
SirMossyBloke
Member
You've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
This is why I'm never going to bother making a level. That stuff is just waaaay above my head. I'd never understand it.
krypt0nian
Banned
This and Dragon Age Inquisition are easily the defining games of this season.
The depth in this new one....
The depth in this new one....
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
That's because you're looking at the completed logic and you haven't seen each piece added one at a time. I bet even the creator of this logic couldn't tell you why he did what he did. It's like a small step that leads to another small step and before you know it you step back from the logic you've created and think: 'I did that!?' Honestly, this is from an advanced creator, and you'd be surprised what you would be able to do if you could ignore the bigger picture and just take tiny, wee steps (like me). I've made some logic I'm very proud of. Maybe not as complex as this, but complex enough to feel damned good about myself. I didn't even know what an AND gate or an OR gate was when I started but it really is quite simple.
Just make what makes you happy. Doesnt have to be a technical tour de force.
donkey show
Member
The cool thing is that you don't need to know high level logic like that to make a level. It's one of the reasons we made the Popit Puzzles to help introduce people to create mode in play mode by using the fundamental tools in a puzzle platforming manner. We've done a lot to make create and the rest of the game more accessible because it can get overwhelming when you start looking at the other end of the spectrum. ^^
JohnnyMoses
Banned
I can't wait for this! Played the demo at Best Buy today and watched someone streaming it earlier. I heard some songs that got me excited to hear all the music! I'm also looking forward to replaying the levels I made in LBP1. Although I wish I could find my Dumb & Dumber tribute level...
You've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
Ahhh this kinda stuff brings me back.
Making fighters, shooters, RPGs (a lot of RPGs), and a whole lot more. Some great memories.
Even made a whole rpg system skeleton where people could just create abilities and boom it's all ready. Unfortunately it caused a lot of lag and framerate problems.
I even made a ace attourny fan things that played like the real things. Got halfway into the first case before lag and framerate became impossible to manage.
Stuff I was making seemed to be too ambitious. Hopefully this game allows those ambitions to be met.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I barely got half of the mechanics in the first game. I guess I'll stick to making simple levels. lolYou've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I just find the logic to be aesthetically pleasing. It's like mathematical art. I'd love it if we could actually have the logic chips open and on display in our published levels.
100% agree. It's a a kind of Art in a way. The stuff I've seen, created, had to recreate. Just imagining how some people did what they did. It's beautiful.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Hugh Laurie is in it...enough said.
Americanmushroom
Banned
frankly its easier then you think. I swear.. I made a top down shooter that needed all these chips> Its just a matter of thinking. What happens if 'this' touches 'this'
Inspector Jones
Member
I hope it supports Remote Play
There's no way it will not support remote play.
3rdamention
Member
So when I load up my LBP2 levels in LBP3, will my old levels be "upgraded" to 1080p with new textures and stuff?
Are there any new graphical updates such as lighting that will be applied? I know, dumb questions...
Are there any new graphical updates such as lighting that will be applied? I know, dumb questions...
LBP1,2,PSP,Vita, and now 3. I guess racing.
Icyflamez96
Member
You don't have to use extremely complicated logic to make great platforming levels.
It's really not as complicated as that makes it look. Of course, looking at someone elses work will always seem foreign, but it's easy to keep up if you know what you're doing,
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Not a dumb question. ALL the above, yes.
Dead Prince
Banned
Microsoft and Sony taking advantage of this show right now
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Eh?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'll be mildly surprised if it scores less than an 85. Even LBP Vita(made by Sumo Digital) is an 87.
Dead Prince
Banned
Oh. Wrong thread lol. Talking about TV ads during walking thread
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Mine is shipping now. I know because I tried to cancel Far Cry 4 and it was too late.
walking thread huh?
SirMossyBloke
Member
Well...enough people have told me to try it, so I probably should lol
I've played both ps3 versions and never tried. I guess I should give it a go and see what happens. I'll be using YouTube a lot for tutorials mind you.
I've played both ps3 versions and never tried. I guess I should give it a go and see what happens. I'll be using YouTube a lot for tutorials mind you.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Head over to LBPcentral. Go into the LBP3 forum section and look at my lbp3 tutorial directory which is stickied. Watch all of the featured tutorials at the very start of the list. Those are the best tutorials to start with and give you a good grasp of the logic.
SirMossyBloke
Member
I'll do exactly that. Cheers.
He could, if he used the sticky-note commenting system on it. The problem is, you can't comment it like a program with /* or // or variants of that for each step of the process/logic for people to follow.
It's partly why I haven't really delved into the create mode too much. The "logic" is a bit cumbersome and mindblowing in what you want to do but not too sure how you can do it.
3rdamention
Member
Wow, awesome....thank you
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
That's been in LBP2 for a while now. It came with the muppet level kit but it's now just part of LBP3. It's a special material called Attract-o-gel, and there is logic to allow you to make any material have this ability. The sound you heard and the visual effect can be turned off, and you can adjust how much 'pull' the material has on sackboy and at what distance. Lots of chaotic fun can be had combining it with the new wind material (which can be set to blow sackboy) and the new 'force' chip which can push or pull objects/materials/sackboy.
There are so many additions to LBP3, it's difficult to know where to start. For instance, if you take a material ... let's say sand, and add a physics tweaker, you can turn off the physics so sackboy can just walk through it. You can do this with the dephysicaliser tool but it means you can't turn it on and off (which is more convenient). Then you take the same material and place it in exactly the same position as the dephysicalised sand. You'll need to adjust the sub layers a little to stop any glitching (there are 20 sublayers per layer). Then take a piston and attach it to the bottom of the physicalised sand and attach an impact sensor to the piston set to invert/play once (I think). When you jump the material should return to its original position. Instant quicksand.
Heh the one DLC pack I didnt pick up. Had no idea about that.
In this 3D platformer beta video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOMXf9Ls-w
Are those actual costumes for Toggle?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
No, I think they've stickered Little Toggle red, enlarged him and added some horn decorations (they could be shells stickered black. I don't know).
Damn nice....needs more advertisement otherwise it might go largely unnoticed.
You've not even seen the logic in LBP2? Here's what it looks like. Don't let it scare you because it's more complex in LBP3:
Confession: It scares the hell out of me.
That looks gross and unorganized! Like something I would have made during the first three months of LBP 2.
Edit: no, even then I was more organized than that. My design wasn't optimal (I got a lot better), but it was at least organized to some degree.
Icyflamez96
Member
Interesting! I had no idea you could make the camera go all the way to the background like that! I guess it's a no brainer, but in all of the videos I've seen where they go far into the background, they don't bother to zoom in back there so I just assumed you couldn't for whatever reason.
My main concerns with this game is just how much it can handle without slowing down. That level already looked like it ran slow and the detail was basic. I just came off of LBPV and you could barely have 3 layers of good detail without slowdown... So of course these 15+ layers worry me.
Unoptimized beta.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Icyflamez96
Member
What is dynamic thermo?
It lets you tell the game to load only what's on screen, opening up level space immensely, and presumably improving performance for dense levels. You also have a host of tools that let you specify objects that should always be loaded, what should be given priority, how big the loading area is, etc. etc.
It's a great tool for gigantic levels. Lets you get rid of three of the level borders too (bottom stays, but the others are endless)
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You have two setting for the thermometer now. One is the thermo as we know it and the other is the dynamic thermo. The dynamic thermo allows for levels up to 200 times bigger than the normal thermo. It does this by streaming information into the level ONLY when it's needed, so only the part of the level you are playing is actually present in the level and once you've passed that part, it gets deleted (unless you return and then the action is reversed). You have options for how much you want streamed in.
edit: beaten
Icyflamez96
Member
Heck ya! No more emitting and destroying whole f****** sections of the level just to fit in a good amount.
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