London GAF - Single fares on public transport frozen until 2020
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Drama Zed Nod
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i've actually not had issues travelling in either of those places.
In fact the staff in any given underground station Tokyo are some of the most pleasant and helpful people you would ever hope to meet.
Obviously the % i have travelled in those places is tiny compared to London and they still deal with the same issues of overcrowding at certain periods. That's not so much my issue, its all the issues as well as that.
My commute is half the price getting a train season ticket than it use to be getting a zone 1-4 travel card for the underground. What transport links do you think are more expensive in London that the tube?
I usually do out of choice because some of their trains go direct to my station in the south coast (and said station typically only gets one train per hour even in its area) and when going up to London, it's only £17.80 or so compared to £30.00+.
But nothing really needs to be added on how bad the service was becoming this year, particularly from stations like Victoria. Was relieved to see their services was back in order right around and after Christmas.
Above all this, still find Southern way more reliable than the bus services in the south coast.
Stallion Dan
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Doesn't really do much. Anyone travelling regularly isn't gonna use single fair as they cost considerably more than getting a weekly or monthly pass.
For the rare traveller the prices going up won't be noticed.
For the rare traveller the prices going up won't be noticed.
using pay-as-you-go on my Zone 1 journeys works out about the same as getting a Zone 1 travel card for the year
and it's probably cheaper when you take out non-working/travelling days
is this still in gaming? MODS HELP!
kqedequalsvolvo
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That's actually a very good pragmatic response, Thanks for that
It annoys me so much as I've traveled a lot and seen how the rest of the world does this. With the exception of LA and Paris every other underground network seemed better to me (NY is about on par with London).
I also understand the issues with our systems and the limitations they face. It's a rock and a hard place. Not Southern though, They are straight up twats.
I actually moved so i could avoid getting the tube or southern rail as it was all too much of a pain.
Removing them from my life improved my days 10 fold.
I'm at a point where i can't accept a 3 hour journey to work. Changing my life was the only thing that made sense to me, not wanting London and it's transport to accommodate my needs for something better.
Funny thing was though, when i first moved here i thought the tube was the best service ever. Now im just a bad tempered bastard like the rest of London ¯\_(ツ_/¯
All good, appreciate the reply
.Agree that the NY subway seems the closest comparison in terms of service levels - though the tube 'feels' better maintained and the wait times seemed a bit shorter here to me, but not by much. The travelling is a difficult comparison to me as it's hard to compare ad hoc travelling with commuting. Last trip I did was to Berlin and the subway seemed super efficient and reliable, but then I'm not riding it every day for a long period of time at peak hours, because I'm a lazy fucker and won't get up early on holiday.
Yeah, can't actually see any mitigation for Southern really. Makes me pissed off because I feel like, at it's root, they just know they've got guaranteed income from commuters on the outskirts of London no matter how shit the service is. Which makes a mockery of the arguments of why they privatised stuff like that in the first place - if you make bank regardless of poor performance, where's the incentive?
That's great that you've moved somewhere and are a lot happier for it - much as I rate it, commuting on the tube network is still a grind and the cumulative effect can be a proper strain on people day after day. I had to start consciously stopping myself getting too pissed off with it (like when you're knackered from work and someone's pulled the sodding emergency alarm) by accepting it's out of my control (bar moving).
Haha I hear that about being a grumpy bastard. I'm saved by having a proper chip on my shoulder of being defensive about London. Grew up here then moved to the countryside in my teens and had years of people telling me that London was an overcrowded shithole that they'd never consider living in. When you move back from the middle of nowhere it makes you view it through rose-tinted specs
.kqedequalsvolvo
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I found the Tokyo subway relatively quiet and easy to get around and I expected it to be absolutely crazy. Though I think that's the big issue with comparing stuff abroad for a trip vs regular use somewhere else - if I worked in Tokyo and travelled on it to busy hubs in peak hours, I may well have found it to be soulcrushingly bad.
As someone who studied in London for 7 years, I really didn't mind the tube. It was efficient enough to get me from point A to B but hated it during rush hour.
The only thing I abhor about it was the price of it but I suppose if you got a decent job in London, the Travel pass is a pocket change.
The only thing I abhor about it was the price of it but I suppose if you got a decent job in London, the Travel pass is a pocket change.
I used to buy weekly/monthly cards for years. Then I worked out that a single journey to and from work 5 days a week is actually cheaper.
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