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Looking to build a new PC
- Thread starter FromTheFuture
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mobo just needs to be the correct socket and have 8400's native fsb supported
edit: also to the guy spending 2k but is getting a 680i sli =0! get yourself a 780 or 790
double edit: just found this on newegg and i thought it was hilarious:
(regarding the ASUS Rampage Formula)
Pros: Absolutly nothing. The D@@@ thing will not even post. DO NOT BUY THIS MOTHERBOARD OR YOU WILL BE SORRY I PROMISE!!!!
Cons: EVERYTHING ABOUT IT INCLUDING TECH SUPPORT FROM ASUS.
Other Thoughts: I purchased this mobo with good intention of building an awesome gaming rig. I attempted to put this together when I received all of my parts but it immediately said "CPU INIT." I have exchanged this mobo to Newegg for another one, sent one in to Asus for an RMA and had them send me a new one and ALL 3 HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. In addition to that, I have RMA'd the Power Supply, the RAM and the Processor. NOTHING WORKS WITH THIS SETUP AT ALL. I have talked for hours on end to their tech support and they do not know what is going on with this problem. I am now out of return time for Newegg and will most likely be stuck with a dead motherboard. I was an Asus lover up until this. This will be my 3rd PC that i've built in a year and had high hopes for it. Those hopes are gone because Asus has failed to address any of my problems NO MATTER WHO I TALK TO. BEWARE THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU TOO IF YOU PURCHASE THIS MOTHERBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how he RMA'd every piece of his setup instead of just installing his cpu correctly =P
edit: also to the guy spending 2k but is getting a 680i sli =0! get yourself a 780 or 790
double edit: just found this on newegg and i thought it was hilarious:
(regarding the ASUS Rampage Formula)
Pros: Absolutly nothing. The D@@@ thing will not even post. DO NOT BUY THIS MOTHERBOARD OR YOU WILL BE SORRY I PROMISE!!!!
Cons: EVERYTHING ABOUT IT INCLUDING TECH SUPPORT FROM ASUS.
Other Thoughts: I purchased this mobo with good intention of building an awesome gaming rig. I attempted to put this together when I received all of my parts but it immediately said "CPU INIT." I have exchanged this mobo to Newegg for another one, sent one in to Asus for an RMA and had them send me a new one and ALL 3 HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. In addition to that, I have RMA'd the Power Supply, the RAM and the Processor. NOTHING WORKS WITH THIS SETUP AT ALL. I have talked for hours on end to their tech support and they do not know what is going on with this problem. I am now out of return time for Newegg and will most likely be stuck with a dead motherboard. I was an Asus lover up until this. This will be my 3rd PC that i've built in a year and had high hopes for it. Those hopes are gone because Asus has failed to address any of my problems NO MATTER WHO I TALK TO. BEWARE THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU TOO IF YOU PURCHASE THIS MOTHERBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how he RMA'd every piece of his setup instead of just installing his cpu correctly =P
FromTheFuture
Member
And to take another shot at this... updated build. Please tell me this one is good! =P
Case - NZXT. Apollo Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025
PSU - Corsair 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
Mobo - Gigabyte LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359
GFX - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
Memory - Corsair 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) DDR2 SDRAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
HDD - Western Digital 640 GB / 7200 RPM / 16 MB Cache / SATA 3.0 GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136298
And a few clearing up questions:
1. Is the PSU enough or should i kick it up to 500W?
2. For the HDD, should i get one with 32 MB cache instead?
3. And is the mobo good/ok? Or is there a cheaper/better/just as good alternative?
Case - NZXT. Apollo Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025
PSU - Corsair 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
Mobo - Gigabyte LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359
GFX - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
Memory - Corsair 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) DDR2 SDRAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
HDD - Western Digital 640 GB / 7200 RPM / 16 MB Cache / SATA 3.0 GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136298
And a few clearing up questions:
1. Is the PSU enough or should i kick it up to 500W?
2. For the HDD, should i get one with 32 MB cache instead?
3. And is the mobo good/ok? Or is there a cheaper/better/just as good alternative?
FromTheFuture said:And to take another shot at this... updated build. Please tell me this one is good! =P
Case - NZXT. Apollo Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025
PSU - Corsair 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
Mobo - Gigabyte LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359
GFX - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
Memory - Corsair 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) DDR2 SDRAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
HDD - Western Digital 640 GB / 7200 RPM / 16 MB Cache / SATA 3.0 GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136298
And a few clearing up questions:
1. Is the PSU enough or should i kick it up to 500W?
2. For the HDD, should i get one with 32 MB cache instead?
3. And is the mobo good/ok? Or is there a cheaper/better/just as good alternative?
That looks good.
1. Do not change the PSU
2. Yes, take this if your budget allows it kliks.
3. It is good.
You're ready to order!
Actually, this is not good. The cutoff should be 3.5GBmalsumis said:3GB of RAM or more, go with 64-bit.
Anything other than that and you might so a bit of a decrease in performance because of using more memory.
The minimum allocation of memory is twice that of a 32-bit which makes memory usage go higher (how much higher depends on what you have running.) But the end story is that you would be using more memory than what you normally would.
dasupremeone
Member
Dont forget to buy an OS...
FromTheFuture
Member
I had an OS covered, but now i'm confused on whether i should go 32 bit or 64 bit? This stuff just keeps piling on...
FromTheFuture
Member
A little bump for a little 32/64 bit OS help?
Labombadog
Member
If you want to fully utilize all of your 4gigs of ram then I would definitely go for the 64bit route. Good luck!
why do you think that?zoku88 said:Actually, this is not good. The cutoff should be 3.5GB
and again, why is that?Anything other than that and you might so a bit of a decrease in performance because of using more memory.
I think you're mixing something up here, or I don't understand your point completely. You should explain yourself more clearly and in deep.The minimum allocation of memory is twice that of a 32-bit which makes memory usage go higher (how much higher depends on what you have running.) But the end story is that you would be using more memory than what you normally would.
Like I said. 3GB or more = 64bit. You'll have 4GB of RAM ant that alone is 64-bit for me.FromTheFuture said:A little bump for a little 32/64 bit OS help?
Metal Gear?!
Member
SH/SC Parts Guide - Building, Upgrading, Prebuilt, and Hardware Advice megathread
1) Rosewill is Newegg's house brand but there is no reason to bother with their PSUs. Antec Earthwatts (rebadged Seasonic), Corsair, and Seasonic are all good PSUs and between them at least one should be on sale from time to time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...chReport&cm_mmc=OTC-TechReport-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...chReport&cm_mmc=OTC-TechReport-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
1) Rosewill is Newegg's house brand but there is no reason to bother with their PSUs. Antec Earthwatts (rebadged Seasonic), Corsair, and Seasonic are all good PSUs and between them at least one should be on sale from time to time.
The Tech Report Christmas Guide has some good recommendationsFromTheFuture said:Eh one last problem, can someone suggest me a mobo again? I don't know exactly what mobo is compatible with the E8400, and if the mobo has to be a certain type...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...chReport&cm_mmc=OTC-TechReport-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...chReport&cm_mmc=OTC-TechReport-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
I just wanted to know what everyones opinions were on PCs built specifically to get the most out of programs like Maya,3DSMax,Zbrush,Mudbox etc.The reason I ask is because I'm a game major who lacks a decent workstation at home and NEED a new PC when I'm unable to work at my school lab.
I was able to get by on a Dell that was made for the family around 2002 for a couple years but with the newer versions of programs being implemented I end up falling behind whenever I'm at home due to my computer not being fast enough to support it or being so slow that my progress comes to a crawl.Compatibility issues also come into play whenever I try saving something in an old version and bring it into a newer version(broken meshes missing data,and other bs that made working at home pointless -_- )
Like many others I'm on a college budget (aka I'm broke and have loans out but have some family support) so I'm looking to spend money on the things I NEED.I don't need a burner,HDD or other stuff that can easily be transfered from computer to computer.
Heres a general list. . . .
This will also be the first time I will be putting a computer together.I've seen video tutorials and a friend put his together so I shouldn't have too much trouble in that department when the time comes.
I was able to get by on a Dell that was made for the family around 2002 for a couple years but with the newer versions of programs being implemented I end up falling behind whenever I'm at home due to my computer not being fast enough to support it or being so slow that my progress comes to a crawl.Compatibility issues also come into play whenever I try saving something in an old version and bring it into a newer version(broken meshes missing data,and other bs that made working at home pointless -_- )
Like many others I'm on a college budget (aka I'm broke and have loans out but have some family support) so I'm looking to spend money on the things I NEED.I don't need a burner,HDD or other stuff that can easily be transfered from computer to computer.
Heres a general list. . . .
- flexible enough so it's easy to work with for future upgrades
- fast and stable enough for multitasking
Ex.Having photoshop up for tweaking textures while keeping Maya up to see how it looks and then going into Torque or Source to check on collisions etc. - decent for rendering.It doesn't have to be the end all be all,just good enough for general clips and stills for demo reel purposes
- anything else that may be beneficial that I don't know about or didn't mention :lol
This will also be the first time I will be putting a computer together.I've seen video tutorials and a friend put his together so I shouldn't have too much trouble in that department when the time comes.
brain_stew
Member
FromTheFuture said:I had an OS covered, but now i'm confused on whether i should go 32 bit or 64 bit? This stuff just keeps piling on...
If you're building a new PC and not going 4GB+ RAM and 64 bit then you're doing it wrong. There's no reason to stick with an outdated OS, Vista x64 is the real deal.
Caj, 4GB RAM + 64 bit Vista and a quad core would be a good place to start.
Thorhald said:Throwing a post in here as I too, am looking to buy a new computer, however i'm looking to spend around 2,000 or so since it should last me [like my last one] 3-4 years.
So, since I don't know much about CPU and MOBOs, are those pretty good to go? Also, is it worth getting SLI GTX260's ? Or just one is good enough?
The 260/280/etc cards are becoming so fast in SLI that a socket 775 cpu will be the bottleneck. If you don't mind waiting a couple months (and spending a lot, though that doesn't sound like a huge problem) then I'd grab an i7 processor (which requires a new motherboard with the 1366 socket).
Though your resolution matters a bit too, even SLI 260s will struggle a bit at 2560x1600.
Excellent article comparing SLI (x2, x3 or even quad crossfire) and current cpu's versus i7 here
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/
Comparisons start at page 6 or so. There are some pretty significant gains just changing cpu to i7, from upwards of 50 FPS gain at 1024x768 down to 10+ gain at 2560x1600
To summarize, if you want to go uber-enthusiast then I'd wait till Jan or Feb or whatever for i7. However, even just getting a single 260 or 280 with that rig will still give you at least 2, possibly 3+ years of pretty cranked graphics. =)