jm89
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They may have.
But valve are still new to this hardware game, and nothing in their past makes them automatically smart to have locked down RAM supplies.
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[IGN] How to Build a PC Equivalent to the Steam Machine
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But valve are still new to this hardware game, and nothing in their past makes them automatically smart to have locked down RAM supplies.
existensmaximum
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I'm actually speechless over your lack of understanding how this is actually a very, very different experience. You're talking about two totally different target demographics here.
Whatever, there's no point in explaining this apparently
crackajack
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not subsidizing does not mean they will add a usual profit margin though.
mini ITX might be expensive, but Valve should get a decent price on their custom solution. Same as SFF PCs do with often completely arbitrary form factors. Unifying cooling for CPU and GPU saves also some bucks. And 750W for a console like PC, the usual 250W SFF PC from HP won't do either, but 750 is a joke, right?
So some pennies here and there in a bulk product and they might accept a paper thin margin for themselves, then 700 is kinda possible, now. Unless RAM (and SSD) or something skyrockets even more.
Quick search tells me you can get a HP or Lenovo SFF PC for around 700-800€ plus a GPU. Though I can't say that their power supplies will survive a good enough GPU addition. At most possibly an RX6400 (or RTX 3050). Which is more equivalent than a self built smallish PC. And also kinda the same price. I guess a low price can only be achieved if they remove their own margin and all suppliers agree to very thin profits.
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Zathalus
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The only difference is that one boots directly into SteamOS and comes with a controller, and the other boots into Windows and doesn't come with one. Sure, the Steam Machine is probably easier to initially use with a standard TV, but it's still a Linux PC running Proton so throw any illusions about easy and seamless out of the window.
But that's besides my original point (one you completely ignore in your rush to insult me) is that the hardware for a similar specced (actually more powerful) PC is not nearly as high as the original article claims. "But, but SteamOS" bitch, who the fuck cares when I'm directly addressing the price of similar hardware.
Poppinfresh
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Bazzite is essentially the exact same experience as SteamOS.
I'd also argue that while it's not 1:1 the same experience, something like CachyOS is superior to SteamOS
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Plug it into the TV and play with a controller from the sofa. Problem solved.
I guess you've never used a gaming laptop to say something like that.
calistan
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What sort of a monster places his TV like that? Disgusting.I feel like building your own PC to a similar or better spec is just kind of missing the point of the device. Looks and form factor matter here. The target market doesn't want a fucking Coolermaster mini-tower visible under their TV lmao.
They want this:
Actually, the target market doesn't want to even build a PC at all!
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Because that's all Valve could afford to buy and build. But their excuse is that 70% of Steam PCs have inferior specs, but I ask, in India or the United States? Because the Steam Machine will be sold only in the US.
Cyberpunkd
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why would i like to have a giant ass laptop sitting next to my TV with cables running everywhere? My TV is mounted on the wall, above the piano. I want less clutter, not more.
I swear some of you are clueless on gaming laptops. This ain't the early 2010s gaming laptops are a lot thinner now and less bulky. It's the same fuckin thing as a ps5 an hdmi cable and a plug and probably the same as a steam machine. You can even play with the lid closed on some of them and they look like a console. I have a 3070 gaming laptop and it's sits perfectly next to my PS5 when I want to hook it up to my tv.
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Senua
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Just make sure you have a desk fan pointed towards it
Horseganador
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Last year they were making news stories to show that you could build a PC more powerful than a PS5 pro for less money, now they give you a quote to match a Steam Machine (which doesn't even reach a base PS5 according to DF and costs you almost $1200 xDD).
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rm082e
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AMD is perfectly fine. Their graphics hardware powers the Xbox and PlayStation. For a budget machine, AMD has almost always been the better choice.
Fabieter
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So they are direct competition to the big three now? Interesting.
Topher
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That has nothing to do with what valve can "afford".
To keep the price low
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amigastar
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Yeah, they should. maybe with nvidia neural texture compression 8 gigs of VRAM would be enough in the future.
Why a 7600? The B580 12gb for $10 more or the 9600xt are better options. Also mini itx board and the case is micro atx? Choose a cheaper micro atx and spend that extra money on the GPU or save it. If he choose an itx board then use an itx case. The PSU for that hardware is a lot but at least the article say it.
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amigastar
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Can't argue with that, still i think they should have gone with 12 Gigs even if it would be more expensive but maybe that was not possible otherwise they would have done it.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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I like that they didn't make the parts list ridiculous by throwing in some cheap ass CPU cooler or something just to bring the price down a couple bucks. This list looks somewhat realistic. Prices are absolute garbage, though. Bad time to build.
PlayStaytion
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I'm fine with Micro ATX chassis as long there's room for fat graphic cards like the ones from Asus or Zotac.
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