LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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esc said:
You can tell because no-one who seemed to like the finale is willing to acknowledge his arguments.

Yeah, that's hilarious because as someone who loved the finale I brought this very same point up on the previous page. Hey, continue to ignore it though... Seems like some of you are enjoying trying to get Lost fans agitated.
 
What about all the other people in the flash sideways that were not on the island? Jack's son? Who is this kid? Just someone that Jack created?
 
LM4sure said:
What about all the other people in the flash sideways that were not on the island? Jack's son? Who is this kid? Just someone that Jack created?

Yep. Everybody was in their "happy place" in the flash sideways. While things weren't perfect there, they were still leading happy lives.
 
LM4sure said:
What about all the other people in the flash sideways that were not on the island? Jack's son? Who is this kid? Just someone that Jack created?
Yep, you heard John, Jack doesn't have a son.
 
joelseph said:
The ending was too easy, the closure felt contrived.
:lol
Half the board doesn't get it! There was nothing easy about that conclusion although the contrived part is subjective I guess- especially if you have a better conclusion for it.

You must be an advanced philosophy major!
 
YoungHav said:
Hey hey hey. Don't worry about that, this show is about the characters. Not about mysteries or consistent story telling, the characters!


Hurley realized he'd never have another Big Mac again.

I mean, no need to be a jerk about it. Like I said, I absolutely loved the ending and thought they crafted in a completely satisfying manner.
 
I guess my dislike for this episode stemmed from the fact that I wanted the series to go more along the lines of the scince fiction-esque genre. All throughout S6 I have really disliked all the mystical stuff. The Temple, Jacob, Electromagnitism, Walt, Time Travel Desmond being special, All of it felt like it was for nothing.
 
Solo said:
I said I would hate a reset. What we got is anything but. What we got was a very profound and touching epilogue wherein all the people whose lives had been ruined and lost could come together again and be at peace finally.
Except for the black people and redshirts, of course. It's a very monochromatic afterlife
 
echoshifting said:
Man I hated the last 15 minutes. There wasn't a single episode of any season I didn't enjoy in some way (including this one). I don't see how anyone can look at every red herring thrown our way this season and then act like they did us some big cosmic favor with this ending.

The sensitivity in this thread is mind-blowing. This was the very definition of deus ex machina, and a lot of people dislike deus ex machina. It's a perfectly valid reaction to the ending for the X timeline that they chose to throw at us. From my point of view they just couldn't come up with a way to bring the two timelines together and at some point they gave up. I can't wait for them to try and justify all of the false "hints" implanted in the alternate timeline.

I can't wait until this season comes out on DVD and the people caught up in the emotional weight of the show ending and "the characters" have a chance to go back through S6 episode by episode...do you really believe you'll still be satisfied with the ending? Personally I feel this will make S6 extremely difficult to watch again (and I LOVED it unlike many here).

I so desperately wanted to be satisfied by the finale. I was ready to accept just about anything. Not this, though, and not presented in this fashion. Deus ex machina just sucks.

All of the "hints" planted in the sideways world make sense with what we ended up seeing.

They had to "wake up." Charlie was one of the first to do so, and he prompted Desmond, who started the chain reaction and brought the necessary people together.

You can say you hate it; that's fine. But for people to say the ending came out of nowhere is disingenuous. It fits perfectly with everything that came before it. It may not answer enough for people, or be satisfying enough, but it certainly does fit.
 
tabsina said:
Welp.. I just watched it

Loved the ending, it was truly a fitting ending to the show in my eyes

Wow.. I didn't realise I was posting that right in the middle of pointless bitching and whining
 
Just got back form Vacation, so i had 4 hours of Lost waiting for me.
Awesome finale, cried like a little girl, but that could be part of the jetlag's problem
Still find it hard to believe this was it, no more Lost. Damn
 
StrikerObi said:
Yep. Everybody was in their "happy place" in the flash sideways. While things weren't perfect there, they were still leading happy lives.

Ohhh...ok so maybe part of Jack freeing himself involved the feelings he had about his father and how he wasn't a very good father. So he didn't want to be the same way. He started the season that way in the flash sideways but by the end he was father of the year material!
 
If the Flash Side world was simply a purgatory, a place for the ka-tet to meet up and move on to the next phase of “life, then why was Jack getting those parallel cuts on his neck? Didn’t seem like anyone else suffered the parallel synchronicities.
 
Now that its all over; why was Desmond trying to run Locke down AGAIN? :lol He had already connected him and Jack by that point.
 
DoctorWho said:
I'm a little miffed they would reveal this outside the context of an episode. They should have kept it a mystery.

Well, it sounds like Damon and Carlton never did want that to come out, but it was in scripts that people already saw. I'm going to go back and spoiler the name in my post, would you mind doing the same to the name in your quote of my post?
 
chidrock said:
I guess nobody who made it off the island had anything else important happen to them in their lives since they made this "church" to meet up with old friends and to revisit the most import thing that happened in their lives.

Apparent.

Solo said:
Now that its all over; why was Desmond trying to run Locke down AGAIN? :lol He had already connected him and Jack by that point.

Desmond is full of random rage?
 
Mr. Snrub said:
I mean, no need to be a jerk about it. Like I said, I absolutely loved the ending and thought they crafted in a completely satisfying manner.
I agree with you. I was just parodying the apologists. Post was sarcastic.
 
OptimoPeach said:
Except for the black people and redshirts, of course. It's a very monochromatic afterlife

lost-rose-bernard-vincent.bmp
 
Solo said:
Now that its all over; why was Desmond trying to run Locke down AGAIN? :lol He had already connected him and Jack by that point.
:lol
 
thekad said:
:lol

:lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol

Wait...what are we laughing at? DID I PUT ENOUGH SMILEYS??

Kuroyume said:
Yeah, that's hilarious because as someone who loved the finale I brought this very same point up on the previous page. Hey, continue to ignore it though... Seems like some of you are enjoying trying to get Lost fans agitated.
You brought up what point? Interfectum made some very well reasoned arguments that were blatantly ignored. If someone could counter his points perhaps I could actually see the ending from your perspective.
 
Someone was asking this a few posts back.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/24/early-lost-finale-ratings/

Early 'Lost' ratings: Solid, not spectacular

UPDATE: We interrupt your morning-after Lost finale debate to bring you some early ratings data from last night’s polarizing climax.

According to Nielsen, the two-and-a-half hour finale averaged a decent 13.5 million viewers and a 5.6 in the 18-49 demo. That marked the show’s highest rated telecast in two years, but it’s far from a record-breaking performance. The Lost clip show that preceded the swan song drew 9.8 million viewers.
 
oktarb said:
If the Flash Side world was simply a purgatory, a place for the ka-tet to meet up and move on to the next phase of “life, then why was Jack getting those parallel cuts on his neck? Didn’t seem like anyone else suffered the parallel synchronicities.

Probably because he was the most resistant to letting go.
 
Keamy guys, Keamy was in the purgatory only to be shot by Sayid :lol
 
Solo said:
Now that its all over; why was Desmond trying to run Locke down AGAIN? :lol He had already connected him and Jack by that point.

Was he? Or was he there just to make sure everything was going to keikaku?
 
Acosta said:
-Walt's importance is not the point, if they introduce it they have to do something useful with all or it´s a script faliure, so what's the point?

-We know how Sharks arrived, but again what's the point?

-Are you serious? Just tell me why MiB coulnd't go to the other side, or what is the point of defending a cave that can not be found, what Jacob's mother was doing there before there was any MiB? If she didn't want people corrupting the island she could have killed everyone from the beginning.

-If writers say "We don't know how to do satisfying finale with all the shit we have used all these years, fuck off" in advance, don't expect we don't call out them when they deliver.

-What point is he was a special person who came to this special place. I don't see the point in explaining WHY or HOW he is the way he is. Which is why I'm glad they didn't attempt o explain Hurely or Miles either. The main result of Walt being special is that the Others agreed to let him go.

-The point was that the Dharma's interest in the zoological aspects the Island. This is the problem right here. How people expect to be some huge mystery behind everything.

-What do you mean by other side? But the cave could be found, didn't you watch the finale? She was guarding the island. Why does it matter who came before her, or who came before them? When do the questions stop if that's the kind of pointless shit you're focused on?

-Again this is nonsensical. There's no part of the storyline that I "don't get" because the writers didn't answer something. LOST has always been a show more about showing rather than telling. It's told strictly from the perspective of the characters, which is where people seem to get confused.
 
According to Nielsen, the two-and-a-half hour finale averaged a decent 13.5 million viewers and a 5.6 in the 18-49 demo. That marked the show’s highest rated telecast in two years, but it’s far from a record-breaking performance. The Lost clip show that preceded the swan song drew 9.8 million viewers.

I called 14 million in the last thread. threenote called 20+ million :lol
 
oktarb said:
If the Flash Side world was simply a purgatory, a place for the ka-tet to meet up and move on to the next phase of “life, then why was Jack getting those parallel cuts on his neck? Didn’t seem like anyone else suffered the parallel synchronicities.
I take it to be him attempting to 'wake up'. The same way in a dream, strange things happen you can ignore, but if you're very aware of dreams, you can notice them, and wake up within them.
 
esc said:
:lol :lol :lol

Wait...what are we laughing at? DID I PUT ENOUGH SMILEYS??


You brought up what point? Interfectum made some very well reasoned arguments that were blatantly ignored. If someone could counter his points perhaps I could actually see the ending from your perspective.

I've gone back 6 pages and all I've seen is him complaining about a magic dildo and being mad the X world was all for naught. Point me to his post that actually has some well reasoned arguments.
 
YoungHav said:
I agree with you. I was just parodying the apologists. Post was sarcastic.

Oh, sorry! :D

One question about the knife wound showing in the alt-verse: if the knife wound to his neck appeared...why didn't the gaping hole in his ribs appear, too?
 
esc said:
You brought up what point? Interfectum made some very well reasoned arguments that were blatantly ignored. If someone could counter his points perhaps I could actually see the ending from your perspective.

The fact that the smoke monster was able to appear off the island to Jack, Michael, and Hurley. I don't know... Maybe you could try reading the thread before making stupid statements or maybe not bother making them at all.
 
oktarb said:
If the Flash Side world was simply a purgatory, a place for the ka-tet to meet up and move on to the next phase of “life, then why was Jack getting those parallel cuts on his neck? Didn’t seem like anyone else suffered the parallel synchronicities.

I'm assuming because there is no "now", when you are born in the real world, you're also born in the "after life". Your body ages in the after life as it does in the real world so anything that happens to it irl also happens there. (it's pretty stupid)
 
Apoc29 said:
Why is Kate marked as 'deceased' on Lostpedia?

Hmm... very interesting. I don't know if I'd mark some of these characters as deceased. I'd mark them as how we last saw them in the island time line before the purgatory epilogue.
 
Solo said:
I called 14 million in the last thread. threenote called 20+ million :lol

The numbers will probably go up a little when they add the +24 DVR numbers. But probably not enough to make it 20m.
 
Why do nonreligious people get so offended by religious imagery during the end? The show has always been about faith versus science. It is funny seeing people think it was just Christian symbolism at the end when they didn't even look and see the symbols from the various religions in the room.
 
chidrock said:
I guess nobody who made it off the island had anything else important happen to them in their lives since they made this "church" to meet up with old friends and to revisit the most import thing that happened in their lives.

Yeah, that's kinda bugging me. I think I'll just pretend that the Ajira flight crashed on the way home.
 
Mr. Snrub said:
Oh, sorry! :D

One question about the knife wound showing in the alt-verse: if the knife wound to his neck appeared...why didn't the gaping hole in his ribs appear, too?

He asked his mom when did he get his "appendix" removed during one of the al-verse scenes...he couldn't remember when it had happened.
 
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