LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)
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And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
I'm just glad Darlton gave me a chance to lower my expectations concerning some of the show's lingering mysteries.
If I hadn't kept up on interviews and such (gained the creators' insight) leading up to the final season, I probably would've been a little upset myself in the end. I've had nearly a year and a half to "let go" though, so it's all good.
Besides I give them major props on what they HAVE answered along the way, and the manner in which they did it. That's very easy to downplay, it seems.
edit: yeah, right on Drealmcc0y
If I hadn't kept up on interviews and such (gained the creators' insight) leading up to the final season, I probably would've been a little upset myself in the end. I've had nearly a year and a half to "let go" though, so it's all good.
Besides I give them major props on what they HAVE answered along the way, and the manner in which they did it. That's very easy to downplay, it seems.
edit: yeah, right on Drealmcc0y
There are also things which are simply NOT mysteries that people insist ARE mysteries.
For example Libby.
I use her as an example because I used to bitch about her stuff not getting answered all the time, but when someone points you to her lostpedia page and you read it... Its all there. Its not a mystery.
There are a bunch of coincidences on LOST that people feel need an explanation beyond "fate" or "destiny" and I simply can't imagine what those answers would even be.
If LOST bothers you don't you dare read any charles dickens
For example Libby.
I use her as an example because I used to bitch about her stuff not getting answered all the time, but when someone points you to her lostpedia page and you read it... Its all there. Its not a mystery.
There are a bunch of coincidences on LOST that people feel need an explanation beyond "fate" or "destiny" and I simply can't imagine what those answers would even be.
If LOST bothers you don't you dare read any charles dickens
why lost sucks -
i taught that this MUST be important, and, it's left out, as allmost EVERY thing that boggeled my mind before. pay attention to the end of the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kpVq_vW5w
i taught that this MUST be important, and, it's left out, as allmost EVERY thing that boggeled my mind before. pay attention to the end of the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kpVq_vW5w
New Theory:Igoritza said:
Hurley is the voice of the average audience member
Miles is the voice of the audience who actually pays attention
The missing scene from the finale is:
Jack: "wait so we were dead all along?"
*Miles busts in*
Miles: NO! No, no, no... you fucking moron.
ALSO, the answer to why Ben didn't remember was provided rather weakly on the show at some point if I remember correctly
Dead said:
your point being ?
it is never explained, and we can assume as we always do - "that must be some devious plot from Ben"
im pretty sure that i took notice of all important facts during the show, and the show - sucks. i was actually the one who defended the show on other forums, and between friends, saying - it will all come in place, Lindelof said so - but he lied to us.
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And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Miles: Has it occurred to any of you that your buddy's actually gonna cause the thing he says he's trying to prevent? Perhaps that little nuke is the incident? So maybe the best thing to do... is nothing?Staccat0 said:
I'm glad you all thought this through.
Drealmcc0y
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Maxrunner said:
you should probably go to a lost forum
wait a second!
Maxrunner said:
What do you want to know? I really think that people are making the ending out to be more cryptic than it actually was. The events of the island happened, the flashes during season 6 all took place in a type of afterlife. Everyone dies at some point, so whenever each person happened to die, they went into the purgatory that season 6's flashes were in. Once they all were able to meet each other and then remember the lives they had led, they were able to move on to heaven, or whatever you would like to call it.
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The obnoxious Sherlock Holmes analogy from like, 60 pages ago, was totally spot on. I read Sherlock Holmes because I love the characters and figuring out how they work in a world of the writer's creation (so much so that one of the best stories spends half it's time not even being narrated by Holmes).
Other people just read SH for the mystery and to be done with it. That's wasting time when you could've just read a short wiki instead - and even if you did, you may dismiss it because you didn't like the answer, even though it may have been a powerful reveal within the story itself.
Stories, especially great ones, are not about solving for X.
Other people just read SH for the mystery and to be done with it. That's wasting time when you could've just read a short wiki instead - and even if you did, you may dismiss it because you didn't like the answer, even though it may have been a powerful reveal within the story itself.
Stories, especially great ones, are not about solving for X.
BenjaminBirdie
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JGS said:
:lol
THANK YOU!!
:lol
Drealmcc0y
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I wonder if Igoritza will reply with an apology of his mistake
im doubting it
im doubting it
I don't think thats exactly fair.Solo said:
I think the problem comes mostly from people "catching up" with lost later and watching all the seasons in a month.
We've all had time to let each episode cook and come to reasonable conclusions about a lot of the mysteries on the show.
People who blew through it all probably expected some blatant answers like Micheal's answer about the whispers in season 6.
Mysteries were a big part of why I watched the show, but I don't need them specifically and canonically addressed on the show to consider them answered. Its far more fulfilling when they just give you all the hints and peices to the puzzle.
Fisticuffs
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so what happened to all the extras from the plane crash? the ones from oceanic. I know the ones from Ajira died.
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They were waiting for a real world explanation for things that don't exist in the real world, basically. Now that it'll never come, they'll never let go. They're trapped on the island, and we moved on, Solo.Solo said:
Drealmcc0y
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Solo said:
I have a friend who said he hates lost now after the finale, he was talking about how the show is all stupid now, and i was like "they moved the island with a freaking frozen donkey wheel, yet THIS is a problem!?"
He was obviously just looking for reasons that the show sucked that wernt there.
He has also come to the conclusion that they were definetly making it all up as they went along, even though hes only been watching the show for a few months.
He also asked questions like "why was Lockes dad on the island, this show is so shit!"
We are no longer friends :lol
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Lolo will agree with this.Dead said:
Dead said:
yeah, you wanted it so here you go, you're the one who didnt pay attention, suck it now -
1. Alpert told that Ben wouldnt remember, but based on what ? based on the healing pool - the same pool that had healing properties but NOT the memory wipe ? (lots of people healed, and still aware of everything)
2. Ben was fully aware of his previous life with Dharma being himself that told Alpert he didnt want to go back to Dharma, he wanted to be the Other
3. Ben's actions do not imply that he actually remembered being shot by Sayid, and it seems so as if he had forgotten.
so, what you want to say actually is another of those "fancy" explanations people provide today:
Healing pool heals people. but, it can also randomly wipe someones short term memory, with no one else than Richard Alpert knowing when the randomness will occur.
on the other hand, we DONT KNOW how richard can do that, knowing that he only received immortality from Jacob, so that also is left for speculation.
or, you're going to say something like - Jacob did it.
let's explain everything with - Jacob did it, shall we ?
Drealmcc0y
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Igoritza seems to know the ins and outs of magical healing pools it seems :lol
SpeedingUptoStop
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He was also killed, so it is kind of hard to say whether or not he ever was supposed to forget anything.:lolBlader5489 said:
Igoritza said:
Ben forgot the shooting, he didn't forget his 12 years of life.
It doesn't happen randomly, forgetting the trauma seems to be a consequence of being healed in the spring (which makes sense, since the spring seems to be reserved for traumatic injuries that the island can't naturally heal itself). We don't know of anyone but Ben being healed by the temple spring, so I don't know where you're getting the idea of others being healed but still remembering.
ugh, whatever, why am I even bothering.
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