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I don't even know what this thread's about anymore.

 

[Yaweee]

I don't even know what this thread's about anymore.

It's not about the show. It's about the characters (Erigu and Drealmcc0y)

 

[WillyFive]

Really, now.
Shit is shit is shit. I don't think one has a particularly superior flavor to the other.

We have all felt nostalgic at one point or another. What is resonant is the emotion, not what got you there. Even though what got her that nostalgia was crazy, it doesn't make it describable as excrement.

The most ridiculous thing happened with Kate, and yet people could still care for her. In another show a main character's wife died and you couldn't care less.

It's that kind of robotic examination that ruins shows. Why should I care for this person? Why should I be watching this? Why am I here?

Who wants to live next to someone like that?

Yes, you seem to understand some of the words I type. Not the sentences though.
...
Okay, look: you apparently think I care about the fact the sky turned purple specifically. I don't give a shit about the fact it's purple rather than green or yellow. My point was that the Swan station exploding apparently had some weird effect on the sky (as if something significantly weirder than a facility exploding had happened), and some characters talked about that phenomenon later in season 3, one of them going as far as to say that was why they had to get Jack to operate on Ben (but not quite as far as to explain how that works exactly, as Ben was already trying to grab Jack before the sky turned purple anyway... could it be that the writers were just carelessly making shit up? naaaah, not on Lost!).

So "thing blowing up with unknown and dangerous properties has effect on people and the area" was not enough for you? You wanted to know more about that, than say, what was actually going on in the show?

It's like wanting to know how the Empire got into the Rebel Blockade Runner in Star Wars. It sounded like they used a chain saw, but nowhere in the movies do you see that being used again. Maybe it was Vader's lightsaber, but it didn't sound like that at all. It was an important part of how the plot moved about and it did have lasting reactions to the characters, after all, with the Princess captured and C-3PO and R2-D2 having to escape. Maybe they should have explained it more.

Or maybe they should have just kept going with the story.

Anyway, Lostpedia has an article on that thing. Since what the explosion was a release of electromagnetic energy, it could have affected people around it. A spinal tumor would fit, if you wanted to have a reason for it.

It was like that "sky turning purple " above: you were missing the point so badly that I didn't even know what to tell you. I tried replying for a bit, looked back, saw what my post was turning into, wondered if it was really worth it, gave up and deleted the rest. I didn't need another headache on top of my headache.

But yeah, maybe that was a bit harsh... And I don't have a headache (yet) right now, so okay: let's see that again...

1)
After the "sky turning purple" business, you started going on about how Lostpedia says that the Lost producers used Rodriguez' drunk driving incident as an excuse to kill Ana Lucia, because the audiences didn't like the character, and the actress was being difficult on-set.
While the article I linked to does mention rumors, it also subscribes to the official version, that is to say, she was supposed to die then and there from the very beginning. There's even that caption: "Ana Lucia's death was planned from the beginning." Sounds clear enough.
And my point was that I personally don't believe in that official version, as several elements (I listed some in my initial post) hinted at further developments with her. But in the end, nothing. Same thing for Eko, same thing for Libby. Meaning all that time spent with the "tailies" was pretty much *duuun* lost.
So I don't know where you were going with that, but it had very little to do with what I was saying. I sounded a bit like you were trying to make a point about Lostpedia's reliability or lack thereof (... with something about a "Jacob car"?), for some unknown reason (besides... they list their sources, there, so...?).

The reason I used Lostpedia because you were complaining about Lucia's death. You trust Lostpedia, so I gave you what it said. On a related note, that's also where I got the Jacob Car from, which I used earlier in this discussion as an example of how over analyzing leads to thinking something is deeper than it was meant to be.

Your criticism stems from the official explanation, which you don't even believe. So why are you criticizing something you and Lostpedia believes to be fake? It's like complaining that the cake tastes bad, when there isn't a cake there.

2)
Then, you said that Michael was "brought back ("back"? ... I probably shouldn't even be asking, right?) to the light", and that doesn't sound like something that ever happened on the show, soooo...
I mean, we're probably to surmise that Walt did "help his father", based on that scene in the New Man in Charge, but...?
And then, you added Ben to the mix, as if his and Michael's situations were comparable. I don't know, Willy105. On one hand, Michael was never seen in the flashsideways (and thus in that church), was shown to be part of the whispers, and apparently needed Walt's help. On the other hand, limbo Ben simply decided not to move on right away (because staying in that bizarro world is apparently extremely punishing or something... I'm sure it makes a lot of sense, like everything else on the show, and I'm not seeing it because I'm using basic Earth logic). Ah, well.

Both Michael and Ben needed to be redeemed for their bad actions. You know, lying, kidnaping children, sending people to die, that sort of stuff.

No one ever said the flashsideways was a punishing place, it was never meant to be. It was just a place to remember each other. But they didn't want to stay there because it wasn't nice, they wanted to go to someplace better, to 'move on'.

Not much to be confused about. It's when you add things to it that makes contradictions pop up.

3)
"Ah, well", indeed, because the above "it was just the same thing for Michael and Ben, like, obviously" argument was nothing compared to this "hey, maybe Walt was just another candidate, and that was it!"
Really, Willy105?
The dead birds? Klugh asking his father if he tended to, y'know, kinda teleport or project himself astrally (and he totally did! he even spoke backwards, presumably to say things like "durrr, I forgot to took my clothes off before taking a shower! what were you two doing in that tent, anyway?" what does it mean? what does it mean??)? The Others being freaked out by him? Ben helpfully saying that he was "more than [they] bargained for" before getting rid of him?
Yeah: just like the other candidates.

4)
Actually, I gave up with the above. 'Twas a bit too much.

Perhaps it was. How do the events that you described above discredit the candidates thing? Make the connection for me.

See above. I'm a poster, not a miracle worker, Jim!

Anyway, so it can't be said I'm just trying to ignore some brilliant post that proves me wrong about the show beyond the shadow of a doubt... The rest of your post:

And kidnapping a random pregnant woman and her baby is going to help... how? Couldn't they do that with one of their own? Wouldn't it be simpler? Are they in it for the sport?

Because she was already pregnant? Why risk two pregnant women when you already have one?

You get pregnant, you die. Might as well try to help the one who is already pregnant instead of adding another one to the mix. You know, Earth logic.

Juliet who thought that it was something that happened at conception and wanted to take one of the mothers off the island in order to test that theory, but Ben said "no".
Maybe it was an even day, and on even days, Jacob doesn't want you to leave the island.
Or maybe it was because Ben wanted to keep Juliet on the island indefinitely, as he's obsessed because "she looks like her" (... just not obsessed to the point of actually bringing that up again after her death).
Either way, I guess she didn't think of explaining that to other Others. Or they were just fine with their own dying for no good reason.

You got it! (except the even/odd days thing (although it would be interesting if we could see if people left the island only on odd days, using the chronology of the show with September 22, 2004 as a reference. It might be fun! (but that means you would have to see Kate again)))

Anyway, The Others knew what was going on except for the parts Ben hid from them. It was well known amongst them (unless I missed something) women couldn't have children on the island without something going horribly wrong.

So you're of the opinion that Jacob brought them on the island? That's indeed possible. In fact, it's never made quite clear if one can simply find the island by accident or not.

Well, it's an interesting question, but not something the show would divert itself to explore, unless it was to just establish a character, like your "filler".

Most of the "filler" of the show is there to tell you something about the character, like why they are like that, how they got there, and what would make them happy. You know, something you can relate with, which The Event could not do with as much an emotional connection.

I don't remember that exchange...
...
Oh. Oh, I get it. Well, I think I do, anyway.

When you said "other than whatever Widmore was supposed to do and the bad guy's name, it didn't actually play out like you said it did, unless you missed stuff", that "it didn't actually play out like you said it did" was referring to my ""it will all make sense in the end! like, in several years! just trust us!" promises (you know, the ones that were followed by "bwahaha! c'mon, don't be nerds: that never mattered! let's focus on what's really important, here: who ends up with who?")", is that right?

You got it! Since message board posts are fragmented, it's easy to not understand what was going on with the context of it, which can result in people talking about two different things. So a clear recap with different and more focused wording can help (at least for me).

I was talking about what was basically said in interviews and such (as well as implied on the show, but I'm talking to somebody who thinks that the island being submerged in the first few moments of the season 6 premiere wasn't a plot point because it was never brought up again, so it doesn't look like we're on the same wavelength for that sort of things). Promises vs. what was actually delivered.
(Lindelof in 2005: "As a member of the community who loved 'The X-Files' for all those years and felt bummed out by the end of it, all I can say is, we're cognitive of trying not to go down the same path"... also, "cognitive": already trying so hard to sound smart... I wonder how many points that word was worth)

'Implied' is different for everyone. For me, the show 'implied' that the atomic bomb created an alternative timeline, one in which the plane never crashed, and one where it did. Obviously, being based on what I thought and wanted to happen, it was bound to be proven false. You thought the island being submerged had significance in a matter I never thought about. We were both watching the same show, we just got different things out of it.

Like the people who thought the clips of the old Season 1 set on the end credits for The End must have meant that everyone died in the crash.

Also, what you think is a mystery might not be a mystery at all. Like the polar bears, by The End people were still expecting to see more Polar Bears, even though their explanation and time was long done. Also, people thought the Jacob Car was real, even though it wasn't. Damon couldn't have possibly expected people to want answers to something that was never written.

Although it's interesting to see that he said there wasn't going to be any time travel.

But as for the problems with the plot, no, they weren't quite limited to Widmore's role (a mystery even to the actor portraying him) and the Man in Black's name (what does it matter, what his name is? it's just freaking unnatural/stupid to have Jacob be referred by name, and not his brother, that's all).
Say, did I spend all my time only mentioning those two? I don't think I did.

No, you mentioned more, and I responded to them. But Widmore and the bad guy's name are the only ones I agreed with, which is why I mentioned them again so that you can have solace in the fact that I was listening.

 

[butter_stick]

Everybody is wasting their time.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

It's not about the show. It's about the characters (Erigu and Drealmcc0y)

I think its about erigu and willy actually ^

 

[brandonh83]

I think its about erigu and willy actually ^

you son of a bitch don't you dare forfeit.

 

[andycapps]

Nominating Erigu for most insufferable poster on GAF for 2011. Jesus, this thread is a nightmare.

 

[threenote]

I'm with Erigu. Lost does, indeed, suck. It's a terrible show.

Spoiler

The only way to shut Erigu up is to agree with him.

 

[oatmeal]

1) Once again, you go after the guy, not his arguments, huh? That's surprising.
2) I mentioned another TV show recently enough, I believe.

I don't read every post in here... I only remember the musical chairs thing.

How am I going 'after the guy' when I ask what TV shows you LIKE? It's a simple question...you don't seem to like the format of TV dramas...

Simple question, but we've seen you struggle to reply to direct questions before. You always need to just...tilt...the argument a little bit so you jump off the point and attack elsewhere.

You'd make a great lawyer.

Dude... I already tried to make you realize this before, but maybe I should have been more direct: you sound like a complete idiot, when you post stuff like that. Why insist?

Why do I insist on talking about something I don't like?

Gosh...I don't know.

 

[oatmeal]

I don't suppose you can defend the show, instead of trying to attack me once again?

Playing the victim card again.

I wonder how many posts in this thread have you crying that "people are treating me unfairly".

 

[Solo]

Thread is worse than Across the Sea.

 

[oatmeal]

Thread is worse than Across the Sea.

:lol

Oh fuck, that doesn't work anymore.

 

[butter_stick]

I'm with Erigu. Lost does, indeed, suck. It's a terrible show.

Spoiler

The only way to shut Erigu up is to agree with him.

No, the only way would be to stop engaging with him.

It's not like the dude doesn't have valid opinions, but coming in to a show for a thread coming up to a year after it ended to tell everybody it sucks is as obvious trollfishing as you can get.

 

[oatmeal]

No, the only way would be to stop engaging with him.

It's not like the dude doesn't have valid opinions, but coming in to a show for a thread coming up to a year after it ended to tell everybody it sucks is as obvious trollfishing as you can get.

He's just a nerd on a mission. We've all been there, but some of us have things to do IRL. He can spend his time googling up ammo for his next splurge post.

Watch him respond to this message with something to the effect of "WAH WAH ATTACK THE POSTER WAH WAH"

 

[Catalix]

Thread is worse than Across the Sea.

harsh, but fair

solown'd

 

[Erigu]

We have all felt nostalgic at one point or another. What is resonant is the emotion, not what got you there. Even though what got her that nostalgia was crazy

As was what she did because of that nostalgia. And pretty much everything else in her backstory, really.
So... "resonant"? Nah. Sorry.

The most ridiculous thing happened with Kate, and yet people could still care for her.

Well, whatever made them care wasn't the writing.

It's that kind of robotic examination that ruins shows. Why should I care for this person? Why should I be watching this? Why am I here? Who wants to live next to someone like that?

Careful: that's also a question, right there! Don't turn into a horrible question robot!
Also: are you kidding me?

So "thing blowing up with unknown and dangerous properties has effect on people and the area" was not enough for you? You wanted to know more about that, than say, what was actually going on in the show?

What was going on on the show was that characters were saying that explosion had side-effects and was the reason Ben needed to come up with that crazy plan of his to grab Jack.
Is it really unreasonable to wonder how, when it appears to make no sense whatsoever? Is it really unreasonable to wonder why the Others did all that? What their motivations were?

Anyway, Lostpedia has an article on that thing. Since what the explosion was a release of electromagnetic energy, it could have affected people around it. A spinal tumor would fit, if you wanted to have a reason for it.

Nope, doesn't explain why they didn't simply send Ben to a facility in the first place, sorry.

The reason I used Lostpedia because you were complaining about Lucia's death. You trust Lostpedia, so I gave you what it said.

What? You... what?
You gave me what the article said (if by "giving", you actually mean "misrepresenting")... after I linked you to it in the first place?
Er... "Thanks"?

And it's not that I particularly trust Lostpedia or anything. I was talking about the producers' version of what happened with Ana Lucia. I linked to Lostpedia because they summed up the whole thing and provided sources. That's all.
You're still not making sense....

On a related note, that's also where I got the Jacob Car from, which I used earlier in this discussion as an example of how over analyzing leads to thinking something is deeper than it was meant to be.

And I still don't know what you're talking about nor how that relates to what I was saying in any way, but thanks all the same.

Your criticism stems from the official explanation, which you don't even believe.

... Are we slowly getting there? Could it be??

So why are you criticizing something you and Lostpedia believes to be fake? It's like complaining that the cake tastes bad, when there isn't a cake there.

You never disappoint!
No, Lostpedia doesn't believe in the official version either, except for that part where they apparently subscribe to it.
And yes, that cake analogy makes a lot of sense, and I can tell you understand the point I was making.
HELP, MY FINGERS ARE DRIPPING WITH SARCASM.

Both Michael and Ben needed to be redeemed for their bad actions. You know, lying, kidnaping children, sending people to die, that sort of stuff.

Look, I don't want to repeat myself... I explained the difference already.

No one ever said the flashsideways was a punishing place, it was never meant to be. It was just a place to remember each other. But they didn't want to stay there because it wasn't nice, they wanted to go to someplace better, to 'move on'.

So it wasn't a bad place, it's just that there was a better place, and Ben decided not to go to the better place right away because...? Because what?

Not much to be confused about. It's when you add things to it that makes contradictions pop up.

Yeah, I see that!

How do the events that you described above discredit the candidates thing? Make the connection for me.

I listed obvious differences in the way Walt was treated, and that, to you, "makes the connection"...
What am I even supposed to tell you? I don't know. You appear to be using an entirely new type of logic, here. I can't keep up.

Because she was already pregnant? Why risk two pregnant women when you already have one?

That makes... no sense to me.

Obviously, the Others tended to get pregnant. That, well, kept happening, apparently. And then, those pregnant women invariably died in childbirth, along with the babies.
Why were they so interested in Claire? Because her baby was conceived off the island?
Here's an idea: if the baby is born and both the baby and her mother survives, maybe it means that was the problem. And of course, you could also try and send the pregnant women off the island for the birth, just out of curiosity (SPOILERS: for some reason, that works, too!).
Why kidnap Claire though? I'm not seeing it, sorry. I mean, you could try and see if her womb looks like she's in her 70s, of course. Oh, hey, it doesn't. Well, that's it, then. Too bad you never thought of that one in almost thirty years, guys!

Look, I'm no Juliet, I'm no expert, but it seems to me like the cure is one drugged orange juice (and a submarine trip you won't even remember).
Just a band-aid? Maybe, but it's still better than letting all those women die. I think. And if all that was caused by that hygrogen bomb going off, what do you think Juliet could do to completely get rid of the problem anyway? Pee on the radiation?

You got it!

No, because the Others could apparently leave the island. Except when the show forgets about that.

Anyway, The Others knew what was going on except for the parts Ben hid from them.

No shit.
And what kept Juliet from telling them "hey, I'd like to prevent your loved ones from dying, but Ben won't let me, for some reason"?

Well, it's an interesting question, but not something the show would divert itself to explore

Yeah, I noticed that. Too bad, because it would be nice to know why the Others would be so "hostile" to Jacob's guests. But yeah, who cares about their motivations, right? Details like that would just get in the way of the plot.

unless it was to just establish a character, like your "filler".

That makes no sense, but okay...

Most of the "filler" of the show is there to tell you something about the character, like why they are like that, how they got there, and what would make them happy.

Aaaand you don't understand what I meant. I'm so surprised. And tired.

'Implied' is different for everyone. For me, the show 'implied' that the atomic bomb created an alternative timeline, one in which the plane never crashed, and one where it did. Obviously, being based on what I thought and wanted to happen, it was bound to be proven false.

"Obviously"?
No, the show implied that. "It worked", for example.

You thought the island being submerged had significance in a matter I never thought about.

Well, I think shots like that better have some kind of significance.
The Lost writers apparently don't give a shit.

Like the people who thought the clips of the old Season 1 set on the end credits for The End must have meant that everyone died in the crash.

Considering Christian had just spelled out that everything that happened on the island was real, they weren't paying attention.
(it sure was an odd idea to show that during the end credits though)

Also, what you think is a mystery might not be a mystery at all.

Yeah, we probably weren't meant to think anything of the damn island being submerged.

Damon couldn't have possibly expected people to want answers to something that was never written.

Stupid audiences, seeing mysteries where there aren't any...
Oh, wait:

Lindelof: Should you infer that the detonation of Jughead is what sunk the island? Who knows? But there’s the Foot. What do you get when you see that shot? It looks like New Otherton got built. These little clues [might help you] extrapolate when the Island may have sunk. Start to think about it. A couple of episodes down the road, some of the characters might even discuss it. We will say this: season 6 is not about time travel. It’s about the implications, the aftermath, and the causality of trying to change the past.

... Yeah.
Well, they weren't done writing the season, back then!

Although it's interesting to see that he said there wasn't going to be any time travel.

He says a lot of stupid shit:

Lindelof: We're still trying to be firmly ensconced in the world of science fact. I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function in. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and being in a place where they probably shouldn't be, but nothing is flat out impossible.

Suuuure, Lindelof.

I don't read every post in here...

Honest mistake: when you say that I never mention any TV show that I like, it kinda makes it look like you do follow the topic and simply choose to ignore whatever is inconvenient for you.

we've seen you struggle to reply to direct questions before.

Could you show some examples? (<- oh, I think that's a direct question! so I can expect an actual answer from you, right? right?)

Playing the victim card again.

Just saying you're trying to discredit me instead of tackling my arguments.
Note the "trying": such pathetic attempts can't do much harm.

coming in to a show for a thread coming up to a year after it ended to tell everybody it sucks is as obvious trollfishing as you can get.

Yeah, I'm sure the response would have been completely different during the show, or only a few months after it ended. It's not like some Lost fans say the darndest things to try and exonerate their show from criticism (or discredit its critics)...

 

[Drealmcc0y]

So what episode(s) does anyone think is truly underrated?

For me its personally its Something Nice Back Home.

I think its a fantastic look into the psyche of Jack. He is such a tortured soul.

Now looking back after the show has ended it became really important that he got his appendix taken out.

 

[EliCash]

So what episode(s) does anyone think is truly underrated?

For me its personally its Something Nice Back Home.

I think its a fantastic look into the psyche of Jack. He is such a tortured soul.

Now looking back after the show has ended it became really important that he got his appendix taken out.

Stranger in a Strange Land, Sup.

 

[threenote]

So what episode(s) does anyone think is truly underrated?

For me its personally its Something Nice Back Home.

I think its a fantastic look into the psyche of Jack. He is such a tortured soul.

Now looking back after the show has ended it became really important that he got his appendix taken out.

Flashes Before Your Eyes.

One of my personal favorites. Also one of the most shocking plot twists.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Flashes Before Your Eyes.

One of my personal favorites. Also one of the most shocking plot twists.

Flashes is a beloved episode though.

SNBH gets quite a bit of hate.

 

[threenote]

Flashes is a beloved episode though.

SNBH gets quite a bit of hate.

Alright, then I choose Catch-22.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Alright, then I choose Catch-22.

Yes, definetly.

THis is episode is brilliant!

I mean its not on the level of LTDA, Flashes, The Constant or HEA but this is such an overlooked Desmond episode!

Its also the funniest episode of lost imo.

 

[YoungHav]

After watching The Shield (thats how you pull off an endgame), lost fell down a notch for me.

Thread is worse than Across the Sea.

lmao.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Some Like It Hoth, tied with The Beginning Of The End.

Both Hurley Powerhouses and, in retrospect, the true core of the show: Hugo's general sense of decency, loyalty, and the ability to change things for the better.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Some Like It Hoth, tied with The Beginning Of The End.

Both Hurley Powerhouses and, in retrospect, the true core of the show: Hugo's general sense of decency, loyalty, and the ability to change things for the better.

Some like it Hoth crossed my mind. Hurley Miles are pretty awesome together. Im glad we got the miles story, it was nice. "Miles, I need you!"

Hmm I cant say I would agree with TBOTE, its among the weaker premieres for me, but still great. "I wanna do a cannonball"

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Hmm I cant say I would agree with TBOTE, its among the weaker premieres for me, but still great. "I wanna do a cannonball"

Well, it was really more for Hurley siding with Charlie, in the emotional centerpiece of the entire series.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Well, it was really more for Hurley siding with Charlie, in the emotional centerpiece of the entire series.

This was the moment Hurley and Jack friendship started falling apart and they didn't get it back until they came back to the island, which I always found interesting.

Talking of Hurley centrics, Everybody hates hugo(not ELH from S6) is pretty awesome after all things are said and done. It makes you wonder did the writers know as far back as season 2 that Hurley would be the protector.

 

[Catalix]

Alright, then I choose Catch-22.

Damn, stole my answer I've always had a soft spot for Catch 22, often dubbed 'the weakest Desmond episode.'

I dunno, I just thought there was a lot more to chew on in that 44 mins than most people gave it credit for. Desmond investigating the helicopter crash from his vision, along with wrestling over the issue of sacrificing Charlie, kept me hooked throughout. A lot of fun little moments too, like: Jin's ghost story, the Superman vs. Flash debate, and finally getting a sense of how Desmond's visions worked. Plus, the Naomi reveal at the end was highly intriguing. I remember it being a turning point in season 3 for me.

Oh yeah, Des and Penny also meet for the first time. Lovely.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Oh yeah, Des and Penny also meet for the first time. Lovely.

This is such a great moment, one of my favourite moments between.

Jack and Sawyer playing table tennis is so funny too.

Sawyer making Kate a mixed tape lol. "The best of Phil Collins huh?" "If Bernard asks, I dont know a thing about it" ha!

On darkufo.blogspot.com they had people vote on episode quality from season 3 onwards and out of the 70+ episodes, Catch 22 was 13th from bottom! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/S_utTcdzXCI/AAAAAAAAzYw/GCkqzUY34c8/s1600/Clipboard03.png

I think this was one of those episode where hype got the better of them after "flashes" aired

 

[Catalix]

This is such a great moment, one of my favourite moments between.

Jack and Sawyer playing table tennis is so funny too.

Sawyer making Kate a mixed tape lol. "The best of Phil Collins huh?" "If Bernard asks, I dont know a thing about it" ha!

Definitely. I appreciate seemingly innocuous character building moments like those; just watching these guys bond and converse... which is why I looooved Tricia Tinaka is Dead. The whole episode was built on that foundation.

One more: A Tale of Two cities. Seeing Jack's unrelenting stubbornness being slowly broken down over time kinda got to me. Juliet also makes her debut as a cunning and captivating badass. I was sold on that character from the get go. And of course "Is she happy?" gets me every time.

Season 3 <3

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Season 3 <3

Yes! Definetly one of my favourite seasons along with the 1st and 6th. It can be a bit weak at times in the first six episodes, but theres so much greatness!

 

[butter_stick]

Yeah, I'm sure the response would have been completely different during the show, or only a few months after it ended. It's not like some Lost fans say the darndest things to try and exonerate their show from criticism (or discredit its critics)...

I'm sure you'd be met with just as much opposition, seeing as typically people only post about shows they like, but at least there would be a point to it and the thread wouldn't be completely based around people arguing with you about mundane, pointless shit.

 

[oatmeal]

Honest mistake: when you say that I never mention any TV show that I like, it kinda makes it look like you do follow the topic and simply choose to ignore whatever is inconvenient for you.

Not sure what you're saying here...you have trouble making sense some times, but seem to think by linking to random things, you win the argument.

Could you show some examples? (<- oh, I think that's a direct question! so I can expect an actual answer from you, right? right?)

Read: This thread.

I don't pour over everything written in here. I don't have the time. But there have been tons of situations where someone corrects you and you refuse to acknowledge, but instead turn the conversation elsewhere. Sorry sweetheart, just stating facts.

Just saying you're trying to discredit me instead of tackling my arguments.
Note the "trying": such pathetic attempts can't do much harm.

Sounds like I've taken the 'Erigu' approach.

I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU, DAD.

I quoted THREE separate things...and I'm incredibly tired of it. You have the patience of a saint, and I'm assuming the time of a social recluse.

But we already knew that.

 

[Erigu]

I'm sure you'd be met with just as much opposition, seeing as typically people only post about shows they like, but at least there would be a point to it

?
What would the difference be?

 

[oatmeal]

I'm sure you'd be met with just as much opposition, seeing as typically people only post about shows they like, but at least there would be a point to it and the thread wouldn't be completely based around people arguing with you about mundane, pointless shit.

In what world is arguing over whether or not the outrigger shootout meant anything in the final story of a television program pointless?

You sir, butter_stick, are an idiot.

Excuse me while I dig up interviews from 4-6 years ago that almost help my argument.

 

[butter_stick]

?
What would the difference be?

The point is there would be more than just two or three people going back and forth over the same shit over and over. This thread has been Erigu Erigu Erigu for the last, what, half a year? More?

 

[Erigu]

Read: This thread.

I asked for some examples of my struggling to reply to direct questions.
And of course, you dodged. I almost feel bad about pointing out the irony. Too obvious.

there have been tons of situations where someone corrects you and you refuse to acknowledge, but instead turn the conversation elsewhere.

If there were "tons" of them, it really shouldn't be too hard to give some examples. Go ahead.

In what world is arguing over whether or not the outrigger shootout meant anything in the final story of a television program pointless?

Yes, obviously, there are much more important things to talk about in a Lost topic than Lost. Like, say, taxes. Let's talk about taxes.

 

[oatmeal]

The point is there would be more than just two or three people going back and forth over the same shit over and over. This thread has been Erigu Erigu Erigu for the last, what, half a year? More?

More.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

In what world is arguing over whether or not the outrigger shootout meant anything in the final story of a television program pointless?

You sir, butter_stick, are an idiot.

Excuse me while I dig up interviews from 4-6 years ago that almost help my argument.

lmao

 

[oatmeal]

I asked for some examples of my struggling to reply to direct questions.
And of course, you dodged. I almost feel bad about pointing out the irony. Too obvious.

When have I ever shown that interest to go back 20+ pages to find examples of things? I don't. It's fun to watch you do it, though.

Fail.

If there were "tons" of them, it really shouldn't be too hard to give some examples. Go ahead.

I like watching you flail for references. That's not my game. I care much less than you think.

Fail.

Yes, obviously, there are much more important things to talk about in a Lost topic than Lost. Like, say, taxes. Let's talk about taxes.

Yes, I have expressed interest in talking about taxes a number of times. You are on point with a reply...yet again.

MY FINGERS, THEY ARE DRIPPING WITH SARCASM. PLEASE GET ME A TOWEL TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS.

Fail.

 

[WillyFive]

My favorite underrated episode is Expose. It was brilliant.

No, the only way would be to stop engaging with him.

It's not like the dude doesn't have valid opinions, but coming in to a show for a thread coming up to a year after it ended to tell everybody it sucks is as obvious trollfishing as you can get.

I guess you're right.

I mean, look at that mountain he just submitted. Most of it are literally detours or repetition, all coated in thick sarcasm. I really want to Reply to it, but it will just never end.

Especially when you use interviews that intentionally threw out fake clues because the TV show was still airing.

But at least Erigu is firm in his beliefs, and can use whatever logic he can to support it. He is definitely more motivated than I am.

Anyone else want to jump in the cage with Erigu this time?

 

[oatmeal]

I mean, look at that mountain he just submitted.

It's pretty amazing.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

My favorite underrated episode is Expose. It was brilliant.

It really is. I would go so far as calling it a classic. Its the ultimate filler episode though lol.

Although smokey indirectly kills them by paralyzing them and getting them buried alive, which is pretty cool.

 

[Erigu]

The point is there would be more than just two or three people going back and forth over the same shit over and over. This thread has been Erigu Erigu Erigu for the last, what, half a year? More?

Not following your train of thought, sorry. Are you saying that I'm trollfishing because there are only a few people left in the topic, now? And it would have been fine back when there were more? Whah?

When have I ever shown that interest to go back 20+ pages to find examples of things? I don't.

No, I can see you're not interested in backing up your claims when you try to discredit me. Could it be because you can't?

Yes, I have expressed interest in talking about taxes a number of times. You are on point with a reply...yet again.

Well, I dunno, man, you apparently think discussing the plot of a television program is ridiculous and pointless. I would have thought it was somewhat on-topic, in this thread, but...?
Like I posted right above: some Lost fans really say the darndest things to try and exonerate their show from criticism (or discredit its critics)...

Especially when you use interviews that intentionally threw out fake clues because the TV show was still airing.

Oh, right: they were misleading people, in those interviews! Of course!
Because they couldn't, I dunno, just shut up and let the show do that, apparently.

 

[oatmeal]

No, I can see you're not interested in backing up your claims when you try to discredit me. Could it be because you can't?

Nope, sorry. It's because I don't have the time to go BACK and look at OLD stuff over and over and over and over and over and over (insert Erigu-style repeating of self)...

Well, I dunno, man, you apparently think discussing the plot of a television program is ridiculous and pointless. I would have thought it was somewhat on-topic, in this thread, but...?
Like I posted right above: some Lost fans really say the darndest things to try and exonerate their show from criticism (or discredit its critics)...

I never said it was pointless... I love talking about LOST, its follies and its triumphs. But it's more interesting to talk to those who are capable of talking like an adult, like like a petulant child who is crying to attention.

You haven't done that yet. You're a joke, and it's fun to watch you spend all of your time here like the good e-warrior you are.

(EDIT)

BTW, what TV shows do you like?

 

[Erigu]

Although smokey indirectly kills them by paralyzing them and getting them buried alive, which is pretty cool.

For some reason. Let's not question his motivations.
And too bad he didn't think of doing that with the candidates, huh?

Nope, sorry. It's because I don't have the time to go BACK and look at OLD stuff over and over and over and over and over and over

But you have more than enough time to show up and throw random accusations at me.
Well, aren't you an ass, oatmeal.

it's more interesting to talk to those who are capable of talking like an adult, like like a petulant child who is crying to attention.
You haven't done that yet.

Oatmeal? Why don't you just shut the fuck up for a while? Seriously. It's embarrassing.

BTW, what TV shows do you like?

US TV shows? Arrested Development and the Wire are obvious picks. More recently, I liked what I saw of Mad Men and Community.
If you extend that to English-language ones... Gervais' stuff? Sherlock was entertaining, too.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

US TV shows? Arrested Development and the Wire are obvious picks. More recently, I liked what I saw of Mad Men and Community.
If you extend that to English-language ones... Gervais' stuff? Sherlock was entertaining, too.

Uh, seriously, stop posting in this thread and catch up.

 

[oatmeal]

But you have more than enough time to show up and throw random accusations at me.
Well, aren't you an ass, oatmeal.

Easy to refresh while I edit. It's a job. Three letter word...Nevermind, I don't want to spoil it.

Oatmeal? What don't you just shut the fuck up for a while? Seriously. It's embarrassing.

If I could :lol you, I'd do it a few times over.

:lol Manga :lol

US TV shows? Arrested Development and the Wire are obvious picks. More recently, I liked what I saw of Mad Men and Community.
If you extend that to English-language ones... Gervais' stuff? Sherlock was entertaining, too.

See? Now that wasn't hard. That's all I wanted to know all 3 times that I asked. But noooo, you had to act like I was being a big ol' meanie.

 

[oatmeal]

Uh, seriously, stop posting in this thread and catch up.

We both know that isn't going to happen. ^_^

 

[Erigu]

Uh, seriously, stop posting in this thread and catch up.

I will, I will. I'd rather watch the whole thing in one go (or close enough), and I can't really do so comfortably, right now.

See? Now that wasn't hard.

'Cause I had never mentioned my appreciation for the Wire, huh?

That's all I wanted to know all 3 times that I asked.

Yes, I'm sure that's all you wanted. It's not like you wanted to make it all about me once again, and to portray me as someone who simply doesn't like TV shows (which would explain why I don't like Lost... what else would there be?). Or if it was, it was so subtle no one could possibly notice.