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[SpeedingUptoStop]

Lindelof has recently said that several of the things they had planned for Mr. Eko ended up becoming part of Bens story.

What? I can't imagine. Big parts of Ben's character were his Dharma years and his daughter. What could they have given to Eko from what Ben has?

I must say, too, I can't imagine Eko in the time traveling business. He definitely would've died by S4, I think.

 

[Dead]

What? I can't imagine. Big parts of Ben's character were his Dharma years and his daughter. What could they have given to Eko from what Ben has?

I must say, too, I can't imagine Eko in the time traveling business. He definitely would've died by S4, I think.

http://www.sl-lost.com/2010/03/27/audio-meet-the-creator-event-with-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse/

At around 13 minutes

"A lot of the stuff that Eko was gonna do ended up being played by Ben Linus"

 

[Catalix]

I must say, too, I can't imagine Eko in the time traveling business. He definitely would've died by S4, I think.

Yeah, can't picture it either. Eko don't play that.

 

[Dead]

They were really starting to play up Eko's interest in the Dharma stations.

I could see them having meant for Eko to interact with the Orchid station

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

http://www.sl-lost.com/2010/03/27/audio-meet-the-creator-event-with-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse/

At around 13 minutes

"A lot of the stuff that Eko was gonna do ended up being played by Ben Linus"

Whoa, this is actually a pretty informative interview. The finale will be sent out 10-11 days before air date. So i guess the big spoilers will be out from there.


The portion where they talk about mulling over what to do about Nikki and Paulo :lol :lol :lol "We could just stop bringing them up in the show, and act like they never happened, orrrrr kill them off.":lol

 

[TheGreatDave]

Yeah, this is fascinating.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Jack is suffering from "nobody wants to be Luke Skywalker" syndrome, because Luke is kinda dull and sometimes when we write Jack to be heroic and earnest, we just wanna be like "oh Jack, just get over it, you're so sad about trying to fix things.":lol :lol

"Oh, writing Jack as Locke is very interesting."

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

On what they hope people will take away as the final message of the show:

We hope there's a very positive, hopefully message at the end of the show and this notion of live together, die alone is , this sense of the importance we all have in eachother's lives is,something that's very important to us.

We hope that whatever your reaction to the finale is, you feel that it was all worth it. As opposed to "wow, we really got burned." :lol



as for flash sideways:
"You're framing this question as if the x universe is an alternate reality, which is like saying "What is the smoke monster" when you should've been asking "who is the smoke monster?"

"There were many involved conversations about how we assigned the numbers to each characters, many writers room talks about why we choose who and maybe we'll talk about it one day, but today is not that day."

 

[Lakitu]

A new promo for tonights episode, spoilers of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POdQ_-aC8bY&feature=player_embedded

Spoiler

I hope Sayid doesn't kill Desmond , but surely the promo wouldn't make it that obvious??

 

[Solo]

Tonight's episode is the lowest rated of the remaining episodes as per Dark UFO.

 

[HowardRoark]

Tonight's episode is the lowest rated of the remaining episodes as per Dark UFO.

I can't help it, I'm pumped no matter what. This is the tail end of LOST people!

 

[Lakitu]

I can't help it, I'm pumped no matter what. This is the tail end of LOST people!

Me too -- plus they rated Happily Ever After low. I have faith I'll be blown away.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Tonight's episode is the lowest rated of the remaining episodes as per Dark UFO.

Which really isn't saying much anymore, I think.:lol

 

[Solo]

Which really isn't saying much anymore, I think.:lol

I dunno. Its rated a 7.0. The Candidate is a 9.4. 15 and 16 are in the 8s, and the finale is also a 9.4 so far.

 

[Nameless]

I dunno. Its rated a 7.0. The Candidate is a 9.4. 15 and 16 are in the 8s, and the finale is also a 9.4 so far.

Ehh. You're thinking those "sources" too seriously. I've been saying it all alone, but after 'Happily' they can hardly be trusted.

 

[brandonh83]

Tonight's episode is the lowest rated of the remaining episodes as per Dark UFO.

I know, I'm not really looking forward to it all that much, especially considering that Happily Ever After was kind of lowly rated and I thought it was one of the best of the season, and Hugo was highly rated and I thought it was one of the worst :lol

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I dunno. Its rated a 7.0. The Candidate is a 9.4. 15 and 16 are in the 8s, and the finale is also a 9.4 so far.

Really can't let these mofos color your expectations. JACK V. MIB!!

 

[Solo]

Ehh. You're thinking those "sources" too seriously. I've been saying it all alone, but after 'Happily' they can hardly be trusted.

Oh, I dont put any stock into it, just saying that they've been right on 10/12 episodes so far, so generally they are on or near the mark.

 

[Catalix]

Ehh. You're thinking those "sources" too seriously. I've been saying it all alone, but after 'Happily' they can hardly be trusted.

I see no reason to completely discount the reviews. They're still a fun reference point for me. A couple of "off" scores doesn't change that.

 

[Nameless]

It has less to do about them missing the mark completely in recent episodes, but more about how the current narrative structure, more specifically the consciousness mind-fuckery, translates to the page. [according to inaudible] They crapped on The Constant and they crapped on Happily Every After. Said episodes are so heavily incumbent on great editing combined with powerful aesthetic and musical touches to fully convey the story and the message they were aiming to tell, that I honestly don't see how you form an opinion on them based off of a random collection of production material.

Their outlook on the remainder of the season is mostly positive, sure. But how much of that is from the inevitable fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu moments any us would geek out over right now if we read major spoilers and how much is it is because of reading early scripts and seeing some raw footage truly gave them insight into the heart of the story? Given the direction of S6 I say the latter would be nearly impossible to discern from anything but seeing the finished product.

Looking back on these pre-reviews after the fact is one thing, but bending your expectations, which let's be honest, on some level falls on basic human nature based off this stuff is another.

 

[storybook77]

Once I saw Happily Ever After was not only a Desmond episode but also directed by Jack Bender, I knew the scores were wrong.

 

[HowardRoark]

Once I saw Happily Ever After was not only a Desmond episode but also directed by Jack Bender, I knew the scores were wrong.

That's the problem, direction had nothing to do with the score. It was all pre-production material.

 

[Lakitu]

I am quite scared, I've really avoided all spoilers besides the smaller ones like promos and just actors commenting on things. I'm just worried, especially since the producers don't really spare anyone.

 

[Catalix]

Man, you really have it in for these reviews, Nameless. :lol If anything, I think you take their very existence way more seriously than I do

When I look at these type of early reviews, I'm well aware of the extremely limited circumstances under which the "insiders" evaluate an episode's content. Post production and final edit are key components to enjoying the full LOST experience. Thing is, I read the reviews already knowing they're based on an incomplete product.

Because of that, in no way has it ever factored into my final judgment (or even initial viewing) of an episode. The views they express obviously aren't gospel, and in no way do I treat them as such. However, I'm not going to treat these people's opinions like they have absolutely no merit. Because they do. For the simple fact they've seen and heard more official material than you or me. And from there, I can easily reject or accept the opinions they've presented to whatever degree I choose.

Truth is, any pre-episode material in this thread is going to color a person's expectations. Even just knowing an episode's centricity is bound to influence you. These early reviews are just as harmless/potent as the rest of the stuff in here.

I guess I just don't understand why giving them even an ounce of merit is frowned upon. :/

 

[threenote]

Tonight's episode is the lowest rated of the remaining episodes as per Dark UFO.

Darkufo can suck on my cajones.

 

[Solo]

Catalix knows the score

 

[Nameless]

Man, you really have it in for these reviews, Nameless. :lol If anything, I think you take their very existence way more seriously than I do

When I look at these type of early reviews, I'm well aware of the extremely limited circumstances under which the "insiders" evaluate an episode's content. Post production and final edit are key components to enjoying the full LOST experience. Thing is, I read the reviews already knowing they're based on an incomplete product.

Because of that, in no way has it ever factored into my final judgment (or even initial viewing) of an episode. The views they express obviously aren't gospel, and in no way do I treat them as such. However, I'm not going to treat these people's opinions like they have absolutely no merit. Because they do. For the simple fact they've seen and heard more official material than you or me. And from there, I can easily reject or accept the opinions they've presented to whatever degree I choose.

Truth is, any pre-episode material in this thread is going to color a person's expectations. Even just knowing an episode's centricity is bound to influence you. These early reviews are just as harmless/potent as the rest of the stuff in here.

I guess I just don't understand why giving them even an ounce of merit is frowned upon. :/

Hey, I wouldn't be a GAFer if I didn't bitch about something. :lol Again, to look back at these scores as a goof is fine. But I can't think of a single conclusion I would take seriously A. Not knowing the criteria by which the opinion was formed. B. What, specifically, was being judged. C. The conclusion itself being vague & undefined.

I'm sure that if before the season began, you took 5 members of LOST-Gaf and told them rate each episode's preview on their own 10-point scale, that the aggregate wouldn't be too far off from GAF's ultimate consensus of the season. It might even be spot on some some weeks. Still, that wouldn't make it a credible way of judging the merits if each episode.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Excluding tonights..

They were wrong about two episodes, right about the Kate episode anyone could predict would be the weakest, and say the rest will be good.

They could have chose any episode to do a break after, and I don't think it'll be after a weak one. Jack + Locke!

 

[Nameless]

Catalix knows the score

Christ, Solo. :lol

 

[Solo]

Excluding tonights..

They were wrong about two episodes, right about the Kate episode anyone could predict would be the weakest, and say the rest will be good.

They could have chose any episode to do a break after, and I don't think it'll be after a weak one. Jack + Locke!

Next episode is Jack/Locke's ep. Not tonight's.

Also, they were right about Sawyer's ep (who would have thought it would be the second weakest?) and right about the Sun/Jin ep (who would have thought it would be awesome?).

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

is it confirmed that the next ep is Jack/Locke centric? I can't remember.

 

[Solo]

is it confirmed that the next ep is Jack/Locke centric? I can't remember.

According to the Wired mag article, it is. Thats the closest we have yet to a confirmation.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

According to the Wired mag article, it is. Thats the closest we have yet to a confirmation.

jack and locke.....


Jack and Locke.


No X.

 

[Solo]

SOLO VINDICATED


?


Send me yer monies and apologies, ma'fuckers

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Next episode is Jack/Locke's ep. Not tonight's.

Also, they were right about Sawyer's ep (who would have thought it would be the second weakest?) and right about the Sun/Jin ep (who would have thought it would be awesome?).

I'm talking about the jack/locke scenes on the island. I've been waiting a long time for their conversation.

 

[Solid Moustache]

jack and locke.....


Jack and Locke.


No X.

I know you're joking but episode 4 was like that..

 

[Catalix]

Hey, I wouldn't be a GAFer if I didn't bitch about something. :lol Again, to look back at these scores as a goof is fine. But I can't think of a single conclusion I would take seriously A. Not knowing the criteria by which the opinion was formed. B. What, specifically, was being judged. C. The conclusion itself being vague & undefined.

I'm sure that if before the season began, you took 5 members of LOST-Gaf and told them rate each episode's preview on their own 10-point scale, that the aggregate wouldn't be too far off from GAF's ultimate consensus of the season. It might even be spot on some some weeks. Still, that wouldn't make it a credible way of judging the merits if each episode.

That's part of the fun for me. Finding out if the "essence" of the episode was able to resonate that early on (without major post work) is kinda neat. No way is it a detriment to my LOST viewing experience, but it has become a meta-game of sorts. :lol

I hear ya though dude, just don't think I quite agree on this one

 

[Solid Moustache]

Guys, I accidentally read an spoiler... well, it's a new rule (like "you can't kill the candidates"). It's very interesting and it will supposedly be revealed in this episode. Let's just say you'll have to rewatch and analyze previous episodes after knowing about this rule...


Any interested ones PM me.

Note : I don't know the veracity of the spoiler because I got the fuck out of there fast.

 

[Dead]

Guys, I accidentally read an spoiler... well, it's a new rule (like "you can't kill the candidates"). It's very interesting and it will supposedly be revealed in this episode. Let's just say you'll have to rewatch and analyze previous episodes after knowing about this rule...


Any interested ones PM me.

previous episodes of this season?

Or previous episodes going back several seasons?

 

[Jak140]

The sneak peak for the next episode is making me think that Locke X

Spoiler

might be the MIB, either a future or past incarnation of him.

Which would explain why Desmond hit him. Even if he isn't, I still think based on the drawing Locke did when he was a kid that his connection with the smoke monster is bigger than just being it's vessel.

 

[Solid Moustache]

previous episodes of this season?

Or previous episodes going back several seasons?

Previous episodes where Flocke appears.

 

[Tralfamadore64]

The sneak peak for the next episode is making me think that Locke X

Spoiler

might be the MIB, either a future or past incarnation of him.

Which would explain why Desmond hit him. Even if he isn't, I still think based on the drawing Locke did when he was a kid that his connection with the smoke monster is bigger than just being it's vessel.

It could also be a kind of consciousness bleed over, too. We've had examples throughout the season, and characters have been becoming more and more aware of the other timeline as of late, so it's also reasonable that she's just remembering somebody who looks like John Locke (MiB, of course) doing something bad or being a bad person. So it could just as easily mean that Locke X is still good but that there will be some conflict because Sun is convinced that he's the MiB.

Basically, it's vague enough to go either way.

 

[Jak140]

It could also be a kind of consciousness bleed over, too. We've had examples throughout the season, and characters have been becoming more and more aware of the other timeline as of late, so it's also reasonable that she's just remembering somebody who looks like John Locke (MiB, of course) doing something bad or being a bad person. So it could just as easily mean that Locke X is still good but that there will be some conflict because Sun is convinced that he's the MiB.

Basically, it's vague enough to go either way.

Yeah, I agree. For some reason I find the idea of Locke X being the MIB to be the most interesting possibility, though.

 

[Tralfamadore64]

Yeah, I agree. For some reason I find the idea of Locke X being the MIB to be the most interesting possibility, though.

I'd had the same thought previously. Actually, his subtle pushing of Ben in Dr. Linus had me thinking the same thing for some reason, but I'm not sure if the theory jibes with what we saw in The Substitute. It would certainly be interested, and I can't wait to see how it plays out.

 

[ZeoVGM]

A new promo for tonights episode, spoilers of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POdQ_-aC8bY&feature=player_embedded

Spoiler

I hope Sayid doesn't kill Desmond , but surely the promo wouldn't make it that obvious??

That's the same promo from last week. And the gun blast coming out of Sayid's gun at the end is so obviously and badly slapped on top of the footage to make it look like he's shooting it. :lol

 

[woodchuck]

so DarkUfo has some new promotional photos up. They answer a question that some people may have after tonight's episode.

MAJOR SPOILERS in the photos. i would stay away from dark ufo for the time being.

 

[Dead]

so DarkUfo has some new promotional photos up. They answer a question that some people may have after tonight's episode.

care to explain?

PM if you dont want to post it here?

 

[Lafiel]

I dunno. Its rated a 7.0. The Candidate is a 9.4. 15 and 16 are in the 8s, and the finale is also a 9.4 so far.

I'd be more worried about the in-coming episodes. But it seems they are all highly rated. Especially the finale.

 

[woodchuck]

care to explain?

PM if you dont want to post it here?

pm sent.

 

[Dead]

pm sent.

just read it. thanks.