Muffin1611
Banned
Pls leave me out of this, I'm not a weeb.
thx.
You're watching anime almost every day with me and you like it
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Love Boat 2 [Mafia] |OT| Electric Boogalove
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You're watching anime almost every day with me and you like it
Samuraischnecke
Neo Member
You're watching anime almost every day with me and you like it
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A TEAM YOU KNOW. DON'T BACKSTAB ME.
I'm a weeb and I don't even watch anime anymoreYou're watching anime almost every day with me and you like it
I don't get the "manufactured" thing
at all
literally, I don't understand what it means
is it supposed to be the idea that scumchat is prescripting conversations prior to posting them?
because I don't think anything like that ever actually happens on GAF, at least from the scumchats I've perused
at all
literally, I don't understand what it means
is it supposed to be the idea that scumchat is prescripting conversations prior to posting them?
because I don't think anything like that ever actually happens on GAF, at least from the scumchats I've perused
I don't get the "manufactured" thing
at all
literally, I don't understand what it means
is it supposed to be the idea that scumchat is prescripting conversations prior to posting them?
because I don't think anything like that ever actually happens on GAF, at least from the scumchats I've perused
I don't quite get it either. I don't think it was manufactured in the sense of what you're describing. What it looked like to me was it looked like Dragonz thought she saw something logical in Kitsune's posts, only that it wasn't terribly logical. Instead of just blowing it off, she doubled down on her read.
Talking about my Xbro comment?I don't get the "manufactured" thing
at all
literally, I don't understand what it means
is it supposed to be the idea that scumchat is prescripting conversations prior to posting them?
because I don't think anything like that ever actually happens on GAF, at least from the scumchats I've perused
By manufactured I mean it sounds made up instead of a genuine read they have on a player. Scum knows all alignments (sans possible neutrals) so they can't really think any player seems one way or another. They know.
Talking about my Xbro comment?
By manufactured I mean it sounds made up instead of a genuine read they have on a player. Scum knows all alignments (sans possible neutrals) so they can't really think any player seems one way or another. They know.
I was more thinking of Sorian's response kit/WAMD thing as the example, since you didn't use that word (or you misspelled it)
which post are you referring to?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Natiko mentioned as much already and I answered him
Hm
I do think that the whole Kitsune and WAMD kerfluffle was a bit oversaturated, bit it could be interesting. Why do you think anyone should go back and look at it? Hope this doesn't seem aggressive I'm just curious as to why you may think that's an important interaction? I did my reads on that and in the end came to my own conclusion that it was 2 townies going at it for dumb reasons (though it COULD be more), what do you think it is that's worth looking back on?
i just wanted to the option of fresh eyes on it. i had been muddling about the argument in my head for a bit, and since Fire offered i thought i'd pick at their brain on it.
personally, first I though it could of been two scum building a fake argument to look like towns butting heads, but the more i thought about it the more needlessly complex it seemed for two scums to plan. in the end i decided it's much more likely a simpler scenario, either scum v town, or town v town.
but it seems like the kind of moment that might not be very important for today, on day one, but on a later day where we start to the the long games of how Dragonz and kitsune are playing.
Ah, I wrote constructed. It's the last post of last page.I was more thinking of Sorian's response kit/WAMD thing as the example, since you didn't use that word (or you misspelled it)
which post are you referring to?
Ah, I wrote constructed. It's the last post of last page.
ohhh, that
I get what you're saying then, yeah. the gist I seem to be getting is more summary without analysis. agreed.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
i just wanted to the option of fresh eyes on it. i had been muddling about the argument in my head for a bit, and since Fire offered i thought i'd pick at their brain on it.
personally, first I though it could of been two scum building a fake argument to look like towns butting heads, but the more i thought about it the more needlessly complex it seemed for two scums to plan. in the end i decided it's much more likely a simpler scenario, either scum v town, or town v town.
but it seems like the kind of moment that might not be very important for today, on day one, but on a later day where we start to the the long games of how Dragonz and kitsune are playing.
Yeah this is where I stand currently. I had thought about it being a fake scum kerfluffle and it could be but I think it is Town v. Town in the end.
Also considering I know KK's and my alignment, huge side-eye to any that are trying to link Fire and I together.
I've been very confused by the past few pages
who is this accusing? what post was doing this?
was it just this read?
Reading through everything, biggest standout would be Ouro's town read on Fire and Exodu5. Fire's posting picked up around that time although a lot moreso after that read, but I've been leaning slightly towards scum on Exodu5 for a while.
or is there something else going on?
If that was true the game of mafia wouldn't even exist. Possibly the most reductive statement thus far this game.There aren't many different reads two persons can draw from the same situation they're looking at
Muffin1611
Banned
If that was true the game of mafia wouldn't even exist. Possibly the most reductive statement thus far this game.
That's...not really an argument that two players can't have the same general idea or suspect the same person.
I mean I and Sam literally looked at Ouros post at about the same time and I thought "Wait this is weird, those two?" and she immediately said the same and wrote it into our chat. It isn't surprising to me that other thought the same.
Ouro, who or what was your "side-eye" post actually accusing
I'm dumb and legitimately cannot figure it out
No one. It was a preemptive accusation.
I never said people couldn't come to similar conclusions, but the way your post read to me was very reductive. There's fifteen groups here of thirty people and clearly there's not even a majority consensus on who is scum or this phase would be over barring holding off the hammer to discuss other matters.That's...not really an argument that two players can't have the same general idea or suspect the same person.
I mean I and Sam literally looked at Ouros post at about the same time and I thought "Wait this is weird, those two?" and she immediately said the same and wrote it into our chat. It isn't surprising to me that other thought the same.
Muffin1611
Banned
I never said people couldn't come to similar conclusions, but the way your post read to me was very reductive. There's fifteen groups here of thirty people and clearly there's not even a majority consensus on who is scum or this phase would be over barring holding off the hammer to discuss other matters.
That's what I was trying to say, so no problem, I could have worded it better.
No one. It was a preemptive accusation.
I was looking for an answer that would help me find my lost mind, but okay, thanks
I was looking for an answer that would help me find my lost mind, but okay, thanks
anytime
Also considering I know KK's and my alignment, huge side-eye to any that are trying to link Fire and I together.
so why were you using present-tense verbs to accuse people of taking a future action that wasn't necessarily precipitated by anything, anyway
why do you need warning shots to fend off devious persons who might to try to create a connection between you and another player?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I'm confused
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
._____.
no, you gave it to me and it's your fault I have it and you can take it back
what is the purpose of that post?
To provoke a response?
To provoke a response?
who asked you
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Is this just Ouro being an ass right now or is there more to it?
I feel like I missing something and I'm never good enough to give adequate reads
I feel like I missing something and I'm never good enough to give adequate reads
Hey!who asked you
There really isn'tIs this just Ouro being an ass right now or is there more to it?
I feel like I missing something and I'm never good enough to give adequate reads
Hey!
I wanted Ouro to answer
I apologize for being snippy, Trigger.
but I guess he can't explain why he'd need to make an unprompted post that explicitly wards people off from making a connection between him and another player
VOTE: Ourobolus
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I'm really not seeing the Ouro suspicion here?
A lot of the arguments against him are weak and circumstantial at best IMO
A lot of the arguments against him are weak and circumstantial at best IMO
Then provide a strong argument not based on circumstance for another pair.I'm really not seeing the Ouro suspicion here?
A lot of the arguments against him are weak and circumstantial at best IMO
He's definitely playing this way intentionally, but I still find it hard to pin an alignment on it. Neutral or Town PR might be an explanation.
Hmmmm, so your read on Sorian is neutral or town PR? Then what about Fat?I have a hard time telling Town Sorian from Scum Sorian apart. The one time he was scum in a game I played, he was a sub in for someone who already had crosshairs on them so...
I mean, if it were manufactured I'd hope to God it would go a little more smoothly than that. What would be the point in not crafting bulletpoints/counterpoints beforehand?i just wanted to the option of fresh eyes on it. i had been muddling about the argument in my head for a bit, and since Fire offered i thought i'd pick at their brain on it.
personally, first I though it could of been two scum building a fake argument to look like towns butting heads, but the more i thought about it the more needlessly complex it seemed for two scums to plan. in the end i decided it's much more likely a simpler scenario, either scum v town, or town v town.
but it seems like the kind of moment that might not be very important for today, on day one, but on a later day where we start to the the long games of how Dragonz and kitsune are playing.
I've been very confused by the past few pages
who is this accusing? what post was doing this?
was it just this read?
or is there something else going on?
I feel like I say this every game at some point, but it's just something to come back to for a defense if/when they're almost about to get lynched on the contingency that Fire is scum. Which is shit. No one is going to pay any mind to it unless your argument is Nobel prize good, so it's only good for either a gotcha or an I told you so.no, you gave it to me and it's your fault I have it and you can take it back
what is the purpose of that post?
I feel like I say this every game at some point, but it's just something to come back to for a defense if/when they're almost about to get lynched on the contingency that Fire is scum. Which is shit. No one is going to pay any mind to it unless your argument is Nobel prize good, so it's only good for either a gotcha or an I told you so.
what prompts it, though
what reading of those pages implies that anyone is going to do that
CrimsonFist
Member
Verelios, that quote of mine is talking about Ouro, not Sorian, and it's an odd mistake since the comment itself quoting Natiko who directly mentions Ouro.
I'm not town reading Sorian at all, if I was my vote wouldn't still be on Fat.
I'm not town reading Sorian at all, if I was my vote wouldn't still be on Fat.
StarSketch
Banned
Um...
I feel like we're jumping on Ouro a bit too fast here.
But then again. 65% chance of not town...
I feel like we're jumping on Ouro a bit too fast here.
But then again. 65% chance of not town...
I don't know, self-preservation when his post was brought up again?what prompts it, though
what reading of those pages implies that anyone is going to do that
CrimsonFist
Member
Um...
I feel like we're jumping on Ouro a bit too fast here.
But then again. 65% chance of not town...
65%? Normally scum is about 20% of the players.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Then provide a strong argument not based on circumstance for another pair.
Been meaning to take a look at Orb, actually.
Plane is coming down so I've gotta catch it and put it to bed so give me a little bit
I don't know, self-preservation when his post was brought up again?
how does he know in advance that he's going to be tied to Fireblend, as opposed to being tied to, I dunno, anyone else
StarSketch
Banned
Verelios, that quote of mine is talking about Ouro, not Sorian, and it's an odd mistake since the comment itself quoting Natiko who directly mentions Ouro.
I'm not town reading Sorian at all, if I was my vote wouldn't still be on Fat.
...?
CrimsonFist
Member
...?
They're lovers, so essentially the same person.
You really haven't been following alonghow does he know in advance that he's going to be tied to Fireblend, as opposed to being tied to, I dunno, anyone else
I "town"-read Fireblend and pretty much got dogpiled on for my read. There are quite a few posts about it.