That's all?
Worm I was right. Kark post is full of nothing.
I always knew you were the smart one
That's all?
Worm I was right. Kark post is full of nothing.
Why would anyone care about town points? And follow up, more scummy shit that kitsune is actually going for it.
Why would anyone care about town points? And follow up, more scummy shit that kitsune is actually going for it.
This, to me, feels like a bizarre work around into voting for Sorian, as both Sophia and Sorian say directly after:
I read backwards and started with his post. He read like a scum trying to gain cred and pocket townies by reading them as town. Because I read it as a scum/town interaction I automatically thought Muffin/Sam was town when I came around to reading that part and their posts didn't do much to my read one way or another.
End.Well I'm approaching the posts from a different angle because I was reading the thread in reverse and I saw Sorian's posts before I saw the posts themselves. Like I was unnerved by those Sorian posts because they felt like posts scum would make in reply to something from a townie, like to appear proactive, knowledgeable, or to earn cred by vouching. So I thought they felt townie from the beginning.
I think they'd feel townie to me if I saw them first I just don't think I can imagine myself staunchly vouching for it or even following the line of thought Sorian did.
Oh, do you mean me making that post about voting like this as scum? I was thinking my later posts telling you it was wrong to group my vote with that post.If I had to guess judging from the time of my post(6:58am my time), this was the last post I made before going to bed after getting home from work. Which means I read all of the preceding 20 minutes worth of posts together as one skim. I do think you were re-writing history or more specifically, getting in front of possible backlash before it happened but I did not remember that post about Ouro at all so I likely didn't register it at all and was probably still thinking about your Kark vote which was the last vote in the game.
Also, posts with highlights in them get more reading time on skims because human nature.
This is actually kinda interesting. I can see a scum partner being more likely to do less if they have a partner doing most of the heavy lifting.Personally, my feeling is most are laying low or switching off, while someone is guiding the discussion to make sure nobody is in danger. That seems like bare minimum of what's going on.
Why would anyone care about town points? And follow up, more scummy shit that kitsune is actually going for it.
Such a hot take I'm surprised you didn't burn yourself. Royal is my top scum read and I'd gladly flip back to him, I did push that vote for a good chunk of the day. Doesn't mean I won't view a sudden push to defend someone that's my second highest scum read especially when the reasoning is so poor with anything but skepticism.You seemed really upset that the vote was moving away from Ouro
This, to me, looks like a post designed to appear like they are scum hunting without actually scum hunting. Considering the posts and conversations they have had previously, it's very 'out of nowhere' feeling as well.
And yet again, no follow up from Darryl on Sorian's thoughts on him or Ouro.
I would lynch Ouro. Your analysis is bad though. My early vote on Ouro, while having real reasoning, was mild at best, he's hung himself much more on real issues since then. My vote for kitsune also wasn't an activity prod so not sure where you pulled that from. I was reading both her and Dragonz as scum but Dragonz had just gone to sleep while kitsune appeared to still be around which is why I voted where I did, was hoping for an over defense again but got ghosted instead.
Sorian being scummy said:I took my vote off Ouro because I thought he was scummy and the reasons he was scummy got bigger, yet I took my vote off of him.
Darryl in Sorian/Fat's dreams said:Oh, Sorian-senpai, you are correct. You have mastered me with your wit and you've proven to me that you're more capable of realizing how scummy you are, therefore you are town.
This is another comment that kind of popped out to me. I don't think we necessarily have to quote on quote weed out townies. The reads should be subtle regarding Townies. Not blatant like I've seen in past games.
Doesn't make sense at all when you look at the timeline for these events. I am not scum hunting in that post? Why did I follow it 20 minutes later with another post throwing shade at your team mate (original work - no one else has pointed how Sorian's voting patterns), completely unprompted? How can you possibly say that I wasn't scum hunting when I was obviously sitting in the thread during that post, sifting through for evidence of wrongdoing in places where no one else was? No, it is really obvious that you aren't even reading the posts or trying to piece together a line of events. You've went through and found all of my posts and now you're trying to tie them all together haphazardly for a half-baked take-down.
Yea, because I didn't need to. Sorian responded exactly the way I was expecting to if he was scum, which would've been to deflect it to avoid being in the spotlight. I don't think I could have sold this at that moment to anyone but myself. Also, the thread was really bloated and by the time I could have responded it was 2 pages back. I am not surprised at all to see the OMGUS coming from you. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sorian convinced you to do it in your lover's chat to avoid it being so transparent that his scummery was so flagrant.
Like, let's look at his response.
Let's rephrase that mouth of words, lol!
You guys know this doesn't make any sense whatsoever and it isn't a rebuttal. Like you can't just deflect an accusation of being scummy by pointing out that it was even scummier than I realized (actually - no, Sorian doing this was 100% baked into my accusation of him to begin with and was what led the entire line of questioning). Like what would I even respond to? Did you want me to nag at him so he could just passively deflect again? What was my response supposed to be here?
NEVER
I'm reading this differently. It seems like Darryl is saying this to me:
For completeness here's Darryl's original post:
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Oh, do you mean me making that post about voting like this as scum? I was thinking my later posts telling you it was wrong to group my vote with that post.
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This is actually kinda interesting. I can see a scum partner being more likely to do less if they have a partner doing most of the heavy lifting.
One thing tho is that postcount does not mean you won't get lynched. Ouro is arguably the most likely lynch RN despite almost having the most posts.
Yes Ty4on, the post about how you vote as scum. I assume you realize that since you quoted it when you asked me the question.
*stuff I'll read, maybe tomorrow depending on how tired I am*
No, it is really obvious that you aren't even reading the posts or trying to piece together a line of events. You've went through and found all of my posts and now you're trying to tie them all together haphazardly for a half-baked take-down.
Ya this is correct. That post isn't a justification for my vote on Sorian. Fat4all isn't trying to understand the posts he's complaining about. It is talking about how my opinion on the subject matter is corrupted because the manner of how the events unfolded in my brain gave me preconceived notions of people.
Have you been doing the same then? Considering that you showed up pretty quickly after I asked that.
Ya this is correct. That post isn't a justification for my vote on Sorian. Fat4all isn't trying to understand the posts he's complaining about. It is talking about how my opinion on the subject matter is corrupted because the manner of how the events unfolded in my brain gave me preconceived notions of people.
which I wouldn't put past anyone in this kind of game.Okay. My read on TWE....
Solid enough question. No qualms with this early post.
No activity for a few pages after commenting on things they were asked to talk about. Null so far. Jumps in to defend their partner
lolso, Karkador
why did you decide to analyze post counts, anyway
You've apparently been talking to him for a while now, but I think this is your first game playing with Kark. What do you think of him? Like generally, does his analysis seem valuable, interesting etc.?You consider a 40 minute difference quickly? I was just finishing up my lunch break and checked in at that point.
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Ouro, I'm curious on your vote for Kark. Your focus at the time was at me, yet the vote was thrown toward him. Standard procedure is to vote for the first person of the pair, which is me.
I am not surprised at all to see the OMGUS coming from you. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sorian convinced you to do it in your lover's chat to avoid it being so transparent that his scummery was so flagrant.
You consider a 40 minute difference quickly? I was just finishing up my lunch break and checked in at that point.
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Ouro, I'm curious on your vote for Kark. Your focus at the time was at me, yet the vote was thrown toward him. Standard procedure is to vote for the first person of the pair, which is me.
And of course the quote is broken.
This is definitely not my night.
There is something that is bothering me here. I see to many "solid" and "I agree" or "have a similar" to actually finish with a null read.
That's pretty much nonsense to me at this point. Given how many people have a supposed 'parity' between them, it doesn't mean anything beyond people have different posting habits.I think this is the kinda of question that can only really be answered after the game is over. It's hard to say either way. I don;t know if a player would be willing to completely change their play style as a scum just from having a partner, ie posting less than usual or more than usual to match/separate themselves from them.
And even then, that's just on a numbers play style instead of a content play style. It's pretty restrictive in how you view a team as scum or town.
God dammit, can I edit just to close those links? Pretty please?
Remember to delete all the rogue:And of course the quote is broken.
This is definitely not my night.
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Okay. My read on TWE....
Solid enough question. No qualms with this early post.
No activity for a few pages after commenting on things they were asked to talk about. Null so far. Jumps in to defend their partner which I wouldn't put past anyone in this kind of game.
We seem to have a similar argument on D1 reads. This doesn't really say anything, but is interesting to note.
FEP asks why they did some reassuring in public chat and not private chat, and TWE really wants people to know how they think. Which is, again, a thing that makes sense.
Offers a read on Nomadic. (I'm there too, but I'm ignoring reads on me because they would unfairly color my ultimate conclusion.) Says Nomadic is shitposting and summoning peeps. Now, I'm just reading TWE's posts, so I don't have the context here. But I don't think shitposting is a legitimate argument against anyone on D1 of all days, so there is a little side-eying here.
Talks about hottakes about partner, stands fast and defends their partner. Solid.
Responds to a weird nitpick on the part of Sophia, just saying that he never said his partner shouldn't come in to defend himself, which I guess makes sense. This makes me side-eye Sophia a bit, but again, this is D1, all we have to go on are nitpicks.
Talks about Krak not being around, which is a decent question. However, TWE is attacking Darryl for doing the thing Sophia accused TWE of, which is strange??? It's okay if they do it, but not if Darryl does it? Super side-eye here. I could be reading this wrong due to not having context for Darryl's stuff.
Ultimately, my read is null, but there is definitely something to side-eye there if you really want to tunnel in on it. Since this is D1 though I'm willing to just kinda shrug it off.
You've apparently been talking to him for a while now, but I think this is your first game playing with Kark. What do you think of him? Like generally, does his analysis seem valuable, interesting etc.?
Darryl, the point I was making is that your posts don't go together. As I said, it looks like coasting, busy work, like you are looking around at what everyone else is making reads on and laying down your own 'scum reads' based off what other have already posted.
The inconsistency and lack or correspondence is what ties your post history together, not my post compiling them together so it's easier to see.
Again, your post history is your own undoing, don't get upset just because someone else brings it up.
Yea okay. Explain how this entered your mind and you regurgitated it, thinking you would hunt scum like this. How is this not deceptive and why shouldn't we lynch someone engaging in active deception?
Like I said, you made a prod to Sorian and a prod to the chat as a whole around that time, but the lack of follow-up and vagueness of those two posts in general (as you never saw any of those attempts at engaging town through) makes them appear as nothing more than showing up to chat just because you have to, or else people will wonder why you haven't. As a whole, they ring out as hollow to me.
I said all this already in my larger post by the way, and I don't see how making .png is going to change my opinions on those posts at all.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sorian convinced you to do it in your lover's chat to avoid it being so transparent that his scummery was so flagrant.
What are you talking about here?
You failed to put two different posts from two different days within context for anyone who read your post.
This is false. Nearly every post that I've made in this thread has had the same theme and followed the same line of thinking, which is that you and Sorian are scum and the evidence has consistently mounted.
My meta read around how Sorian would handle being called out while scum. Town Sorian would get heated and confront me because they would have nothing to hide. Scum sorian would passively throw shade through his scum mate, which is why I thought to look at Fat4all's post and see if they attempted to build a take-down without actually reading my posts
Darryl, the point I was making is that your posts don't go together. As I said, it looks like coasting, busy work, like you are looking around at what everyone else is making reads on and laying down your own 'scum reads' based off what other have already posted.
How do you read his clarification?Again, your post history is your own undoing, don't get upset just because someone else brings it up.
Each and every quote I pulled from you is linked and whoever reads it can get their own context as well as my opinion.
If you want to talk about disingenuous context:
This is very clearly a lie.
Of the 15 posts you made in this game before my analysis of your posts, you made only only 3 had any indication to Sorian (or myself) being scum. It's 4 posts if you count your read list that had nothing but you 'gut' reads.
It was only after my post about your playstyle that you've decided to go all out with this barrage of nonsense against us, with not even a sentiment of a read on me before then, let alone the "evidence consistently mounting" you claim for there to be.
Is this correct?
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Of the 15 posts you made in this game before my analysis of your posts, you made only only 3 had any indication to Sorian (or myself) being scum. It's 4 posts if you count your read list that had nothing but you 'gut' reads.
Each and every quote I pulled from you is linked and whoever reads it can get their own context as well as my opinion.
The meaning you are getting out of some of those posts is just false, though. It isn't even open to interpretation, you're reading them wrong and you won't even try to reel back and explain why you're being so evasive about it.
My meta read around how Sorian would handle being called out while scum. Town Sorian would get heated and confront me because they would have nothing to hide. Scum sorian would passively throw shade through his scum mate, which is why I thought to look at Fat4all's post and see if they attempted to build a take-down without actually reading my posts