I'm surprised there isn't more scrutiny being pointed in the direction at Darryl, looking back.
First, this interaction, the first mayor interaction they had in the game they got involved with in the game, with Verelios:
I don't really agree with you. Saying that they've said nothing of worth is false; they're clearly distancing themselves from people. Their policing isn't any worse than your own attempt to do so. You seem fine with shutting down Soph/Crim's multidirectional manhunt because it had you in their crosshairs.
Don't know why on earth you feel like you need to stop someone who is putting themselves out there this much this early: if they're scum you are giving them more rope to hang themselves with.
First of all, they haven't said anything of worth. What you derive from their posts is separate from their intent. Secondly, I never wanted to police anything. If you read my post I was just explaining why their accusations were hypocritical, which to me they were.
Thirdly, I have no problems with legitimate criticism. We're all having discourse, arguing, throwing opinions around and looking for scum. If you want to argue what I said then fine, but saying I'm trying to stifle discussion is factually wrong. The only way to get scum is for them to talk more, react more, let slip more. Why are you telling me to stop then?
Never said any of that. I am just pointing out your own hypocrisy, whilst you pointed out Sophia's hypocrisy. I didn't think Sophia was overstepping anything, therefore I didn't think you were either
Please direct me to my hypocrisy.
Darryl ignores this statement from Verelios and waits until about 10 hours later before getting involved again with their vote against Sorian:
These posts have stood out to me the most. I don't think the confident tone Sorian is using here feels appropriate for a townie. I think a paranoid townie would be much more hesitant at vouching for others and wouldn't use language like 'very clearly'.
Vote: Sorian
The posts referenced are those involved with the town reads on Samurai and Muffin, in which several people were involved in discussing why it looked like a town move. Their reasoning for voting Sorian is, as they said, because of Sorian's 'confidence' over it looking like a town move, and wording.
When asked for follow-ups from Sophia, we get this post:
Well I'm approaching the posts from a different angle because I was reading the thread in reverse and I saw Sorian's posts before I saw the posts themselves. Like I was unnerved by those Sorian posts because they felt like posts scum would make in reply to something from a townie, like to appear proactive, knowledgeable, or to earn cred by vouching. So I thought they felt townie from the beginning.
I think they'd feel townie to me if I saw them first I just don't think I can imagine myself staunchly vouching for it or even following the line of thought Sorian did.
This, to me, feels like a bizarre work around into voting for Sorian, as both Sophia and Sorian say directly after:
It almost sounds like it's an emotional gut read to you. Hm... not sure I see it myself.
How far back in reverse do you still have to go? How do you feel about me checking out with my early Crimson town read too?
This question is, again, something Darryl ignores.
Another 10 hours pass, and we get this general question asked to the thread at large:
Are there any points / posts in this thread that people deem particularly damning, but feel as though their points / posts haven't been noticed or given proper credit
This, to me, looks like a post designed to appear like they are scum hunting without actually scum hunting. Considering the posts and conversations they have had previously, it's very 'out of nowhere' feeling as well.
They prod Sorian next:
Hey Sorian, how do you feel about lynching Ouro today? It looks like he is going to be a contender for a lynch and you've already voted for him. You went in on Ourobolus at
post #194 for a legitimate read, and since then you've re-directed your vote twice now to
two different
players for mere inactivity prods.
Sorian answers:
I would lynch Ouro. Your analysis is bad though. My early vote on Ouro, while having real reasoning, was mild at best, he's hung himself much more on real issues since then. My vote for kitsune also wasn't an activity prod so not sure where you pulled that from. I was reading both her and Dragonz as scum but Dragonz had just gone to sleep while kitsune appeared to still be around which is why I voted where I did, was hoping for an over defense again but got ghosted instead.
And yet again, no follow up from Darryl on Sorian's thoughts on him or Ouro.
General scum/town list follows a bit later containing no reads attached (as they say, it's mostly gut feeling):
The three groups who I'm okay to lynch today
3. [m] Fat4all & [m] Sorian
2. [m] TheExodu5 & [m] Fireblend
12. [m] Ourobolus & [m] kingkitty
The four below I want to keep for now
1. [m] Muffin1611 & [f] Samuraischnecke
4. [m] CrimsonFist & [f] Sophia
6. [m] franconp & [m] Dr. Worm
8. [m] Trigger & [m] Ty4on
The reasoning for most of them is gut
Darryl complains about the game:
Kark is probably just buying time until something useful pops up because the past 10 pages have been a big ole nothing burger
Darryl throws a low ball question to Crimson, but starts to get a little biteback from his 'nothing burger' statement. It appears to aggravate Darryl slight, at least that's how it looks to me:
Justifying the inactivity of someone who isn't your partner and hasn't provided much of value themselves through belittling what's happened in the past 10 pages isn't a great look.
does his absence really need justifying or a refrain from justification? he can just come into the thread with a post and an apology and no one will care that he was ever gone
I feel like you should refrain from using your precognitive abilities during a mafia game, makes it kinda unfair.
ok when he gets here and no one cares that he was gone you can hang him up and i'll watch you do it
Darry finally shows their frustrations clearly when TheWorthyEdge pokes them with this (pointed again at their 'nothing burger' statement):
This makes no sense.
1) You are putting words and reasons for actions into someone else's mouth. Maybe there's something bigger here who knows.
2) Anything would be helpful right now. Strikes me that Kark hasn't come in and said something yet you have for him essentially.
yea or maybe i'm just drawing sympathies because i came in here and acted exactly the same way he did with just taking notes and leaving and my commentary on kark is me expressing myself externally through another player which
sophia pointed out immediately and for some reason you two head-cut-off chickens feel like being vapidly context-less and obnoxious over. some really by-the-numbers plays you guys are pulling around here
This outburst isn't really addressed by anyone afterwards. To me it reads like a major cop-out. A sort of 'well, look at what these players are doing instead of what I'm doing, isn't that worth looking at more?' than an actual defense of themselves.
Here's my thoughts on Darryl to summarize:
You appear to be coasting and are likely scum. Your contributions have been of little consequence in the game. It's possible that you have been given an allowance on how you've played from having a inactive partner, but it really feels more like the way you've played has just caused people to not even notice how you are playing in the first place. When questioned or asked for evidence or a follow up, you do not provide a follow up answer or reasoning. Your vote was placed under the pretense of 'gut', as are your reads for other players. Questions that you have posted towards other players are of little consequence, and seem to be done to give the appearance of scum hunting.
Also, your list for scum feel more like you looked around to see who was already getting heat and votes on them. With no reads to go along with, this again feels like coasting with what might be considered an unoffensive play. Busy work.
So I'm going to vote for Darryl for now unless I find a better target for my vote while reading through the thread, or as the day goes on.
Vote: Darryl
Still reading, again if anyone has questions about whatever's going on, ask away, I'm here for a while.
