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[acohrs]

please tell me more how poor my play is further at 1-800-5477-69-2779

 

[Xbro]

What were the reasons you came up with after you started?

Accidentally closed the tab where I was writing this. Frick it, I'll give a tl;dr

Mine is a gut feeling that's been fluctuating. Some of the things he says gives me a bad vibe, while some is alright. So I'm willing to vote on it if Kark thinks it's right, but it sounds like he's unsure as well.

 

[Sawneeks]

Something just occurred to me and I checked but if I missed anything, please let me know. After flipping out anytime someone voted her last game (meta, I know), kitsunelaine never appears to have addressed Ty4on's vote for her at all. No discussion, no defense, no nothing, and he had a vote from early until the lynch. She had arguments with a number of the other people who voted her, before or after. Not with Ty.

So I went and looked and yup, didn't find anything.

I was reminded of how Ty did just kinda of ignore Kits' reads list when it happened and talked around it. Her reads list was #2066 and Ty posts at #2080, #2092, #2094 ( although this one could be a side reference but it isn't Ty's thoughts on the list itself ), and it isn't until #2123 that he actually sort of comments on it ( and it's just that it reaffirms his read of Fran ). Those posts in between are about Kits/FEP, however they are towards Crimson and aren't related to the reads list at all but an earlier discussion.

And I haven't done a super skim of it but I remember a point against Crimson/Sophia being that they just didn't push Kits lynch at all despite being so early on it. However...I don't think they've ever pushed any lynch unless I'm mistaken? Does anybody have any examples of that if they know where I can look?

 

[Sophia]

Vote: CrimsonFist

Well, my 2 scumreads aren't taking off, and now I need to decide between two wagons I don't like. Don't like how this ty wagon has seemingly sprung up out of nowhere when some pressure on crimsonphia occurred, the timing feels off

"when some pressure on crimsonphia occurred"

Have you been reading this day phase, dude?

 

[Sawneeks]

Vote: CrimsonFist

Well, my 2 scumreads aren't taking off, and now I need to decide between two wagons I don't like. Don't like how this ty wagon has seemingly sprung up out of nowhere when some pressure on crimsonphia occurred, the timing feels off

Vote: Trigger

 

[hey_monkey]

Sorry, I'm here now

Vote: Natiko

I'm still not sold on Ty4on, I just don't see them bussing so early. Don't really see this vote getting that much traction, but NatikoSparks is about the only team I feel ok voting right now.

PRAISE BE TO CRIMSON

Vote: Natiko

So is this like OMGUS, is there some justification in your boat, is there some reason to vote Natiko who's been out here working or...?

 

[hey_monkey]

Right now my avatar is definitely an accurate representation of how I read votes without really any context. 100% the face I make.

 

[Sophia]

And I haven't done a super skim of it but I remember a point against Crimson/Sophia being that they just didn't push Kits lynch at all despite being so early on it. However...I don't think they've ever pushed any lynch unless I'm mistaken? Does anybody have any examples of that if they know where I can look?

We did a light push on Star! We weren't the first vote tho...

So is this like OMGUS, is there some justification in your boat, is there some reason to vote Natiko who's been out here working or...?

It's who Crimson felt comfortable about. I'll let him explain his thoughts tho.

 

[CrimsonFist]

So is this like OMGUS, is there some justification in your boat, is there some reason to vote Natiko who's been out here working or...?

Who are we considering to be the high activity "pairs?"

I would say Sawrian, Natiko, Ty4on and Monkey stand out to me as people constantly present and contributing, but with Trigger, Nomadic and Royal as less present.

And I guess other people are saying Sophia and I.

Of those, I think I'd most want to lynch NatikoSparks, I'm still giving Ty a pass from his push on Kitsune on day 1 and 2, in a previous game (I think it was Danny Phantom), I recall Ty defending an overly scummy looking team mate day 1. Sawrian has been discussed to death, but blocking Ouro two days still only really makes sense as town. RoyalMonkey's PR could just as easily be scum, but again their targets make more sense if they're town and I think Monkey's contributions have been good since she subbed in.

So less a scum read on Natiko and more that everyone else I can find a case for being townier.

And a couple of following posts talking about other players

 

[hey_monkey]

Just wasn't sure if there'd been anymore to add since yesterday.

 

[CrimsonFist]

I mean we'll obviously switch if we need to for self preservation, since whilst I'm not sold on Ty as scum, there's still a higher chance that he'll flip scum than we will.

 

[Sawneeks]

We did a light push on Star! We weren't the first vote tho...

.....

brb then

And a couple of following posts talking about other players

So it's a PoE scum read, then?

 

[Natiko]

That's pretty astounding that between the both of you the most you can come up with is one really soft scumread. Yet at the same time Sophia spent half the day casting shade on nearly every pair and saying she didn't feel good about much of anyone. Interesting.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Just wasn't sure if there'd been anymore to add since yesterday.

I think there's also a few things about a few of Natiko's arguments that have made me a bit uneasy. He spent a day and a half basically tunneling on the idea that scum wouldn't block someone twice in a row. Natiko and Nomadic have voted off the main wagons quite a bit, on days 1 and 2 at least, Nomadic's been completely useless.

 

[Sorian]

Can we get a vote count for this page?

 

[CrimsonFist]

.....

brb then



So it's a PoE scum read, then?

Mostly, yeah.

 

[Ty4on]

That's pretty astounding that between the both of you the most you can come up with is one really soft scumread. Yet at the same time Sophia spent half the day casting shade on nearly every pair and saying she didn't feel good about much of anyone. Interesting.

Sorry for being arrogant and not jumping on them with you earlier (D3?)

 

[rac]

Can we get a vote count for this page?

if i vote crimson right now and crimson/sophia vote to save themselves it's a 6-6 tie

 

[Ourobolus]

sawneeks & sorian (1)
royal_flush
rac

rac & acohrs (0)
sawneeks
sorian

natiko & nomadic sparks (2)
franconp
crimsonfist
sophia

hey_monkey & royal_flush (0)
acohrs
nomadic sparks

xbro & karkador (0)
ty4on

crimsonfist & sophia (5)
natiko
dr. worm
franconp
ty4on
acohrs

trigger & ty4on (5)
sorian
hey_monkey
royal_flush
nomadic sparks
sawneeks

 

[rac]

nvm 7-6

 

[Sophia]

That's pretty astounding that between the both of you the most you can come up with is one really soft scumread. Yet at the same time Sophia spent half the day casting shade on nearly every pair and saying she didn't feel good about much of anyone. Interesting.

Yeah, my reads are shot. I trust in Crimson's read of you and Nomadic, tho.

 

[Ty4on]

I think there's also a few things about a few of Natiko's arguments that have made me a bit uneasy. He spent a day and a half basically tunneling on the idea that scum wouldn't block someone twice in a row. Natiko and Nomadic have voted off the main wagons quite a bit, on days 1 and 2 at least, Nomadic's been completely useless.

So why does that make you think he is scum?

 

[Sorian]

if i vote crimson right now and crimson/sophia vote to save themselves it's a 6-6 tie

Are you going to vote for Crimson? This is a weird line with 20 minutes left.

 

[rac]

Are you going to vote for Crimson? This is a weird line with 20 minutes left.

a weird line is saying i would cause a tie, really?

anyways i corrected myself

 

[CrimsonFist]

So why does that make you think he is scum?

Scum voting away from the main wagons because they don't care who gets lynched/to avoid responsibility. Although I'm just looking at the end of day votes rather than specific justifications.

 

[rac]

Vote: CrimsonFist

 

[Sorian]

a weird line is saying i would cause a tie, really?

anyways i corrected myself

Using yourself and two others as a barometer for the tie? Yeah, kind of.

 

[Karkador]

VOTE:Trigger

 

[acohrs]

Please point to how pressure on Sophist changed today. Really, I'd like to see how there was a shift today because it could well influence my vote. And I'm not seeing it.

3 votes all on the last page on ty/trigger raising the vote count on them from 1 to 4, before that point crimsonphia were in the lead. 2 of those votes came from royal and sorian, both pairs I scumread.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Vote: Trigger

 

[Ty4on]

VOTE:Trigger

Shocker

 

[Xbro]

Tie breaking.

Ty4on

 

[rac]

Using yourself and two others as a barometer for the tie? Yeah, kind of.

lmao crimson just said they would vote for self preservation

 

[Sophia]

Vote: Trigger

Vote: Trigger

 

[Xbro]

And looks like things are going 90 miles an hour again.

 

[Sawneeks]

Yeah, I can't find any instance of them really pushing a lynch except maybe Star's. ._.

Tie breaking.

Ty4on

you need a 'VOTE' before that

also, why

 

[Burbeting]

sawneeks & sorian (0)
royal_flush
rac

rac & acohrs (0)
sawneeks
sorian

natiko & nomadic sparks (0)
franconp
crimsonfist
sophia

hey_monkey & royal_flush (0)
acohrs
nomadic sparks

xbro & karkador (0)
ty4on

crimsonfist & sophia (6)
natiko
dr. worm
franconp
ty4on
acohrs
rac

trigger & ty4on (8)
sorian
sawneeks
karkador
crimsonfist
sophia
hey_monkey
royal_flush
nomadic sparks

One vote away from majority

 

[Xbro]

Yeah, I can't find any instance of them really pushing a lynch except maybe Star's. ._.



you need a 'VOTE' before that

also, why

Me and Kark were discussing it in our chat.

vote: Ty4on

 

[Sorian]

I know Sophia is just sheeping off Crimson's votes but it looks so weird but she just quotes him and doubles down.

 

[hey_monkey]

Welp.

 

[Burbeting]

The Day has Ended

 

[Xbro]

WELP, didn't know that would hammer.

 

[franconp]

The Day has Ended

What??

There are 5 minutes left.

 

[Burbeting]

What??

There are 5 minutes left.

Majority was reached.

 

[Ty4on]

What??

There are 5 minutes left.

Turbo

 

[Dr. Worm]

Oy, you people

 

[franconp]

Yep. I just realized that.

I just jumped pm the thread and started reading from the bottom.

 

[hey_monkey]

ffs

 

[Ty4on]

ffs

I thought you wanted this lynch

 

[Burbeting]

sawneeks & sorian (0)
royal_flush
rac

rac & acohrs (0)
sawneeks
sorian

natiko & nomadic sparks (0)
franconp
crimsonfist
sophia

hey_monkey & royal_flush (0)
acohrs
nomadic sparks

xbro & karkador (0)
ty4on

crimsonfist & sophia (6)
natiko
dr. worm
franconp
ty4on
acohrs
rac

trigger & ty4on (9) MAJORITY
sorian
sawneeks
karkador
crimsonfist
sophia
hey_monkey
royal_flush
nomadic sparks
xbro