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So I purchased Burnout Paradise earlier today, because I hadn't played many arcade racers this gen, and the demo had fairly good driving, one of my friends was purchasing it soon and I love open world racing games, and Burnout games. (Midnight Club 3 and Burnout 3 were my favorite racing games last gen).

And wow, was I utterly let down. So far, I have a Class C license, (almost at B now), and while the driving is definitely top-notch for arcade fans, and the open world is fairly varied, the rest of the game is just such a disappointment for me.

First, the big things, it's very, very repetituos (But PsychoWARD23, all racers are repititous!) and yes, I realize this, but from my memory there's about 5 events, and that's it. That's all you'll be doing. There's no special races where the cops try and come after you, there's no "special sequences" (A helicopter is chasing after you or something), it's just those 5 events. And the open world is honestly fairly small for a racing game, it does look very good graphically.

And no way to restart a race, or go back to the start of it after it's finished is insulting.

Also, no splitscreen in a racing game? Really? I don't care if it's 20 FPS, I want to race locally WITH my friends dammit.

And here come the smaller complaints, and boy are there a lot of them.

- The soundtrack is fairly bad
- No car customization (I don't care if that's always been in Burnout)
- No drivers/pedestrians
- Holy mother of god, that DJ
- There are no junkyards in the Westish area.
- Insulting Gilette Fusion product placement, as well as EA logos slapped over everything
- No pedestrians/drivers
- Terrible multiplayer "interface" that lets the host choose the cars for events
- No cockpit view, just a first-person view. And at that note, only one third person camera option, which is a bit too zoomed in for my tastes.
- When trying to access the main menu, I have to go through the Burnout Store first
- Tons upon tons of overpriced DLC

At least the gameplay is solid, otherwise this would be a much harsher impression. I still enjoy the game, it's just.... lacking in a lot of areas.
 
Great game, just don't buy the PC version unless you enjoy the sore realization of how much content you can't access.
 
Did you download the patches? IIRC the restart ability was added in a patch.

I get the no splitscreen multiplayer complaint after previous Burnout games, but it's an open world game, which makes it waaaay trickier on a technical level. Has any open world game ever had splitscreen?
 
rohlfinator said:
Did you download the patches? IIRC the restart ability was added in a patch.

I get the no splitscreen multiplayer complaint after previous Burnout games, but it's an open world game, which makes it waaaay trickier on a technical level. Has any open world game ever had splitscreen?
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Couldn't they have just closed off parts of the world and made a race track out of it?

And yeah, I downloaded the patches.
 
Absolutely in my top 10 games this gen. Fantastic. And you can restart races...

Plus who needs split screen when you can freeburn?!

And plus! The soundtrack is brilliant. It has a classical section, ferchrissakes.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
So I purchased Burnout Paradise earlier today, because I hadn't played many arcade racers this gen, and the demo had fairly good driving, one of my friends was purchasing it soon and I love open world racing games, and Burnout games. (Midnight Club 3 and Burnout 3 were my favorite racing games last gen).

And wow, was I utterly let down. So far, I have a Class C license, (almost at B now), and while the driving is definitely top-notch for arcade fans, and the open world is fairly varied, the rest of the game is just such a disappointment for me.

First, the big things, it's very, very repetituos (But PsychoWARD23, all racers are repititous!) and yes, I realize this, but from my memory there's about 5 events, and that's it. That's all you'll be doing. There's no special races where the cops try and come after you, there's no "special sequences" (A helicopter is chasing after you or something), it's just those 5 events. And the open world is honestly fairly small for a racing game, it does look very good graphically.

And no way to restart a race, or go back to the start of it after it's finished is insulting.

Also, no splitscreen in a racing game? Really? I don't care if it's 20 FPS, I want to race locally WITH my friends dammit.

And here come the smaller complaints, and boy are there a lot of them.

- The soundtrack is fairly bad
- No car customization (I don't care if that's always been in Burnout)
- No drivers/pedestrians
- Holy mother of god, that DJ
- There are no junkyards in the Westish area.
- Insulting Gilette Fusion product placement, as well as EA logos slapped over everything
- No pedestrians/drivers
- Terrible multiplayer "interface" that lets the host choose the cars for events
- No cockpit view, just a first-person view. And at that note, only one third person camera option, which is a bit too zoomed in for my tastes.
- When trying to access the main menu, I have to go through the Burnout Store first
- Tons upon tons of overpriced DLC

At least the gameplay is solid, otherwise this would be a much harsher impression. I still enjoy the game, it's just.... lacking in a lot of areas.
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After a year of free update, patch, content.

No pedestrian is just like no driver : rating reasons.

DJ was awesome in french.

Product Placement ? Couldn't care less.

Best multiplayer with Motorstorm series, actually, best racer this gen with Motorstorm series

Host have full rights : yes, like always ?
 
I'm not a super super huge racing fan, but this is probably my second favorite racer of all time, right after F-Zero GX. Love love loved it.
 
Yeah this game was one of my favorites this gen, and I still play it often. I'm really disappointed they didnt make a sequel and yet we've had nearly a dozen racing games since its release and not a one was even close to be as fun as BP.

Its just incredibly solid driving with a giant playground to mess around in. I loved the freedom and not being hassled all the time with menus and setting up races and all the minutia of things that so often accompanies the racing genre. I loved just getting in game and tearing ass all over and messing about like a madman.
 
Loved BP but not for the racing events. I sunk a ton of time listening to podcasts while exploring the world searching for gates and billboards.
 
best racing game of all time and yes, you can restart races, look through the dpad menu.BP has the best online integration ever but if the community is dead i guess you can't really appreciate it.
 
I'm sad none of the other DLC they were planning (Planes, Time Travel, the fucking moon!) made it in.
 
Enduin said:
Yeah this game was one of my favorites this gen, and I still play it often. I'm really disappointed they didnt make a sequel and yet we've had nearly a dozen racing games since its release and not a one was even close to be as fun as BP.

Its just incredibly solid driving with a giant playground to mess around in. I loved the freedom and not being hassled all the time with menus and setting up races and all the minutia of things that so often accompanies the racing genre. I loved just getting in game and tearing ass all over and messing about like a madman.
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Need For Speed: Most Wanted, is a sorta sequel apparently.
 
DJ Atomica was the shit.

Burnout Paradise is probably one of the games I've enjoyed the most this gen. I actually started playing it again on Xbox last week after beating it on PC about a month ago.

Edit: Holy shit, wait, I never knew you could restart races....
 
Dug said:
I'm sad none of the other DLC they were planning (Planes, Time Travel, the fucking moon!) made it in.
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I don't recall the last two. But oh man, I wanted planes so bad. And they gave us motocycles (even if it's only 2-4, granted) for free. Oh man, Motocycles changed the game up and made it pretty enjoyable to me.

And then Big Surf Hit and that was GODLY. So worth the money that my hate of being charged for it after the free updates subsided a bit.
 
Agreed on Paradise being one of the best games of this Generation. Easily the best racing game, for sure.

Poured so many hours into the online mode too, and I'm not normally the type to play games online. Also love how they did DLC. So much free content beforehand made me not hesitate to throw down cash when the paid DLC started rolling in.
 
Dug said:
I'm sad none of the other DLC they were planning (Planes, Time Travel, the fucking moon!) made it in.
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I'm pretty sure that they said that the main issue with planes is that the game never was meant to be seen from that perspective, which lead to draw-in and pop-up problems. They would've had to do engine tweaking to get it running properly.
 
Very fun game after the patches but I wouldn't say is one of the best this generation. That game made me hate 'Paradise City' by GNR too btw.
 
CriterionDog said:
Suchhhha good game. I need a Burnout Paradise 2, even though Most Wanted looks like it!
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If only for the fact that NFS:MW doesnt even have, let alone advance, the realistic car destruction/damage system from BP. Stupid licensed cars ruin everything. I want my Jansen P12 goddammit.
 
Enduin said:
If only for the fact that NFS:MW doesnt even have, let alone advance, the realistic car destruction/damage system from BP. Stupid licensed cars ruin everything. I want my Jansen P12 goddammit.
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I do get what you mean. Along with that, NFS: Hot Pursuit, the cars were much heavier than the cars in paradise.

I need my Paradise sequel. : (
 
My game of the generation. Absolutely incredible in every fashion. I only hope Most Wanted comes close to a Paradise 2.

Cagney Pack (bikes) was free. 10+ more hours of gameplay for free. I bought every piece of dlc and felt satisfied doing it pretty well because of all that free content.
 
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Great game, loved it to death, maybe my most played game of the generation followed by ME1.
 
Plus, the DLC has been on sales! And, the DLC is so great, Big Surf Island, Party mode, Cops and Robbers, legendary cars, etc. This is how DLC should be. I have played this game for years and I cannot believe it will be 5 years old, next January.
 
CriterionDog said:
Plus, the DLC has been on sales! And, the DLC is so great, Big Surf Island, Party mode, Cops and Robbers, legendary cars, etc. This is how DLC should be. I have played this game for years and I cannot believe it will be 5 years old, next January.
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I feel like spending 1000 MSP on an island as big as just Downtown Paradise is a little silly, even if it comes with new cars.

Or 5 bucks on a Hawker Mech car, no matter how cool it looks.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Yeah, I'm looking in to it now, the free patches were nice, but I guess they needed to pay for it somehow, mainly by having $5 cars :p
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Yes, admittedly car DLC was overpriced, but can you really frown upon the prices when they gave so much for free? I know one good thing isn't an excuse to pave way for overpriced DLC, but I mean, compared to other games' overpriced pieces of content...

Even big island was free, you just had to buy in-island content like races and cars.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
I feel like spending 1000 MSP on an island as big as just Downtown Paradise is a little silly, even if it comes with new cars.

Or 5 bucks on a Hawker Mech car, no matter how cool it looks.
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I game on PSN, how much is 1000 MSP, $10? I would totally buy the island for $60. It is as large as downtown Paradise, and it offers so much more content, more billboards, events, gates to smash, super jumps, etc. It really adds a TON more content to the game. : )
 
CriterionDog said:
I game on PSN, how much is 1000 MSP, $10? I would totally buy the island for $60. It is as large as downtown Paradise, and it offers so much more content, more billboards, events, gates to smash, super jumps, etc. It really adds a TON more content to the game. : )
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$12.50.
 
Still my game of this generation. DJ Atomica is fucking great, and so is the soundtrack. When I first heard Air on a G String after a crash I almost jizzed myself. Post-game support for this game should be the goddamn gold standard for any self-respecting dev. I've got high hopes for MW.
 
Ive been working on covering an early version of Burnout Paradise, a build where it is still known as Burnout 5, but it is pretty amazing how far along the game was over a year before it was released.
 
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