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LTTP: Godbomb- Thor is now definitively the greatest God of all Time.

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Damn, what an OP. The ending to the Godbomb might have been the most epic goddamn thing I've ever seen in comic form.

The current story arc is a lot of fun, too. Old Thor vs Galactus!

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A friend was telling me that 'marvel now' is like a reboot of the 616 universe or something? Is that what this Thor thing is apart of?

No to the first question, yes to the second. Marvel Now did not reboot continuity; it's designed to make jumping-on points easier to find. They did a great job with it, most of the Marvel Now and All-New Marvel Now books are the easiest books to just pick up and read.
 

injurai

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No to the first question, yes to the second. Marvel Now did not reboot continuity; it's designed to make jumping-on points easier to find. They did a great job with it, most of the Marvel Now and All-New Marvel Now books are the easiest books to just pick up and read.

Then I'm curious, how far back does the 616 continuity technically go? I'm not really familiar with how the series have connected I've usually just said hey I'm in the X-Men or Iron Man mood and have gone from their sort of want to get the whole picture. But yeah what all is still pretty relevant prior to marvel now?
 

Mumei

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That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?
 
Then I'm curious, how far back does the 616 continuity technically go? I'm not really familiar with how the series have connected I've usually just said hey I'm in the X-Men or Iron Man mood and have gone from their sort of want to get the whole picture. But yeah what all is still pretty relevant prior to marvel now?

Marvel has always had the same continuity. I mean, there have been retcons as you'd expect but it's the same universe they've been using since Fantastic Four #1 in 1961. Cap is older of course but his oldest comics pre-date the shared universe concept. There has never been a reboot for 616.

The oldest stories still get referenced in new comics as though they just happened a few years ago.
 

Soodanim

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I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.
 
I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.

It could work as final movie in phase 3.
 

injurai

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Marvel has always had the same continuity. I mean, there have been retcons as you'd expect but it's the same universe they've been using since Fantastic Four #1 in 1961. Cap is older of course but his oldest comics pre-date the shared universe concept. There has never been a reboot for 616.

The oldest stories still get referenced in new comics as though they just happened a few years ago.

Holy shit, no clue it went so far back. One thing I have enjoyed about the ultimates series is that is very much a complete fresh start, which handles origins stories and what not. Does Marvel now explore that stuff all existing prior. Maybe I shouldn't be thinking in terms of the 616 universe, but as series that tell that continuities story. Because I'd like to pick a starting point that very much handles origins as well.

I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.

Or you know, Thor could go crazy holding the line in some crazy space battle. Where lesser heroes are taking care of other equally important crisis of a multi-pronged attack. There could totally be a way to write in someone with that drastic of a hike in power.
 
Holy shit, no clue it went so far back. One thing I have enjoyed about the ultimates series is that is very much a complete fresh start, which handles origins stories and what not. Does Marvel now explore that stuff all existing prior. Maybe I shouldn't be thinking in terms of the 616 universe, but as series that tell that continuities story. Because I'd like to pick a starting point that very much handles origins as well..

Bingo. One of the things that you realize very quickly when you get into Marvel comics is that nobody on Earth can read everything. It just isn't possible; some issues will reference last year's story in the same book, a current story in another book, a decades-old story and an inside joke about a basically-retconned plot in a single issue. You appreciate it when you get it and you just move past it when you don't. But even the most referential stuff can be fun in the right hands. Uncanny X-Force (vol. 1 by Rick Remender) references all kinds of crazy stuff yet manages to be its own self-contained epic and is one of the easiest modern books to recommend even to totally new readers because it's just that good of a ride.

Or you know, Thor could go crazy holding the line in some crazy space battle. Where lesser heroes are taking care of other equally important crisis of a multi-pronged attack. There could totally be a way to write in someone with that drastic of a hike in power.

I mean Marvel must have written a thousand solutions to this problem over the years
 

BLACKLAC

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Or you know, Thor could go crazy holding the line in some crazy space battle. Where lesser heroes are taking care of other equally important crisis of a multi-pronged attack. There could totally be a way to write in someone with that drastic of a hike in power.

Where the MCU currently is it won't work(as much as I would love to see it on the big screen now). I mean if you want to go MoS stupid and blow your load early, sure.

After Thanos.
 

Log4Girlz

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That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?

Well that's certainly one way to interpret that line.
 

Kayo-kun

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I have been following Thor: God of Thunder since the first issue and I got to say that it's one of the best comics I've read. It was also the first time I read a mainly Thor series.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
WOW what a fantastic topic! I don't even like comic Thor (I love him in the movies though, the Hemsworth version) but you had me glued to my seat OP!!!
 
That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?

Without spoiling too much, it appears that the mjolnirs were used as conduits to channel all that nasty business into Thor himself.

That last scan (as well as some dialogue I left out) shows that Thor's body is now composed of/possessed by Gorr's weapon, and Thor understands its true nature.

This is not a good thing, and was not without repercussions for Thor.

I'm on the road now, will check back later.
 

Mumei

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let's not start THAT again

I love superhero debates. But that is one that needs to be retired.

The thing that always bothers me about the Superman vs Thor debate is that Superman's highest end feats seem a lot more impressive to me - at least in terms of demonstrated feats of speed (under one's own power), strength, destructive ability, etc. Thor seems to win it because he's a particularly bad opponent for Supes more than anything else.

Well that's certainly one way to interpret that line.

... Well, it would be really quite silly of him to absorb the energies into himself when he happens to be holding two hammers, even one of which is capable of absorbing the energies of a bomb capable of destroying a fifth of the universe.

<_<

Edit: Manmademan, I suppose that makes more sense. Maybe. I need to read it to find out.
 

DonasaurusRex

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My only problem with the story is...


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yeah that was the first time this story happened, Thor basically took all he had and then bitch slapped him with the odin force , odin was gone and thor was tappin enchantress. This new one had a whole scheme behind it mad scientist type, the other guy was warrior type.

either way stories been done, this recent one was better.
 

Espada

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Damn, if I hadn't already read the God Butcher and Godbomb arcs in Thor this would've sold me on them. The artwork and writing led to one of the best comics I've read in quite some time.

Honestly, Marvel should make an animated film out of this much like they did with Planet Hulk.
 

pestul

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Christ.. that was an amazing OP. Thanks for that.

I would love to see Marvel Films take a chance on Thor 3 and go with something as batshit insane as this. Probably looking at a $300M budget.. but it would be oh so worth it. Chances are, only people like us would enjoy it though. :/
 

Slayven

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Dual Wield Mjolnirs.

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He got the idea from the GOAT
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Thunderstrike and The Bloodaxe

That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?
One of Mjonrirs cheif and most used ability is to absorb energy.
The thing that always bothers me about the Superman vs Thor debate is that Superman's highest end feats seem a lot more impressive to me - at least in terms of demonstrated feats of speed (under one's own power), strength, destructive ability, etc. Thor seems to win it because he's a particularly bad opponent for Supes more than anything else.



... Well, it would be really quite silly of him to absorb the energies into himself when he happens to be holding two hammers, even one of which is capable of absorbing the energies of a bomb capable of destroying a fifth of the universe.

<_<

Edit: Manmademan, I suppose that makes more sense. Maybe. I need to read it to find out.
Real talk that is jsut because Superman is more famous. Thor has done things that equal and a lot fo cases surpasses Superman. And a lot fop Superman feats are against shit that doesn't fight back.

yeah that was the first time this story happened, Thor basically took all he had and then bitch slapped him with the odin force , odin was gone and thor was tappin enchantress. This new one had a whole scheme behind it mad scientist type, the other guy was warrior type.

either way stories been done, this recent one was better.
I agree.
 
I've read the story before and thought it was one of the better superhero arcs. But there is definitely some stuff regarding old Thor that hasn't yet been fully explained, which is something to look forward to... I guess.

Also, young Thor riding a space shark got a laugh from me.
 

Jarmel

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Thor 3 should be an adaptation of this story. It has time travel for gods' sakes

I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.

I definitely agree MCU Thor shouldn't be on this level. Would make the rest of the Avenger team useless as dirt.
 
I definitely agree MCU Thor shouldn't be on this level. Would make the rest of the Avenger team useless as dirt.

As someone else said, not necessarily. The 616 version of the Avengers manages to juggle a team consisting of world breaking heavyweights like Thor, Hyperion, and Sentry with low powered street level heroes like Cap, Spidey, Wolverine and Hawkeye.

Everyone has a role to play in a well written story- and powerful as Thor is there are no shortage of Threats out there that he can't simply hammer and thunder his way out of.

Also, I had a lot of fun putting this one together. Condensing an arc just feels more satisfying than posting one off feats. Maybe sometime in the future I'll put together something for Annihilation and War of Kings. Marvel cosmic doesn't get enough representation and NOVA is amazing :)
 

Voror

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I'll get the hopefully inevitable omnibus of this run down the line, but I do love the art. I believe the artist also did a pretty good Loki miniseries some years back.
 

Slayven

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Yea we'll see how that plays out. The movie versions of pretty much all the characters haven't been up to the ridiculous levels in the comics, and for good reason.

Thank god they are hell of a lot closer to comic levels, than grounded bullshit.
 

Jarmel

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As someone else said, not necessarily. The 616 version of the Avengers manages to juggle a team consisting of world breaking heavyweights like Thor, Hyperion, and Sentry with low powered street level heroes like Cap, Spidey, Wolverine and Hawkeye.

Everyone has a role to play in a well written story- and powerful as Thor is there are no shortage of Threats out there that he can't simply hammer and thunder his way out of.

They already had issues with Black Widow and finding scenarios for her to be useful.
 
They already had issues with Black Widow and finding scenarios for her to be useful.

True, but that's because black widow was on a team with Cap *and* Hawkeye, both of which have the same skill set she does, but are better in combat.

Black widow's strength is in espionage and spy stuff, which doesn't REALLY work when your opponent is an asgardian god and an invading extraterrestrial army. I understand why her character was there, but BW REALLY should have been replaced by someone else- probably captain marvel, Monica rambeau, the valkyrie, she-hulk, or scarlet witch.

Winter Soldier though? Totally different story. Widow had a ton to do that didn't revolve around punching out aliens and she was useful to the plot.
 

Ghazi

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Goddamn, I have to start reading comics... but the $$$ barriers are too high :(


That was fucking awesome, first Marvel comic I've ever read too (and that was condensed shit lol).
 

Jarmel

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True, but that's because black widow was on a team with Cap *and* Hawkeye, both of which have the same skill set she does, but are better in combat.

Black widow's strength is in espionage and spy stuff, which doesn't REALLY work when your opponent is an asgardian god and an invading extraterrestrial army. I understand why her character was there, but BW REALLY should have been replaced by someone else- probably captain marvel, Monica rambeau, the valkyrie, she-hulk, or scarlet witch.

Winter Soldier though? Totally different story. Widow had a ton to do that didn't revolve around punching out aliens and she was useful to the plot.

Yea, Winter Soldier is more up her alley. The problem is that when you get into the real heavyweight category, which is starting up with Ultron, the writers have to start coming up with contrived scenarios for characters to be useful. We'll see how they handle it going forward with A2 and A3.
 
Maybe sometime in the future I'll put together something for Annihilation and War of Kings. Marvel cosmic doesn't get enough representation and NOVA is amazing :)

That would be great. Annihilation was my first foray into cosmic Marvel, and cemented Nova as one of my favorite heroes ever. Anyone that hasn't read it yet really should.
 

Slayven

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As someone else said, not necessarily. The 616 version of the Avengers manages to juggle a team consisting of world breaking heavyweights like Thor, Hyperion, and Sentry with low powered street level heroes like Cap, Spidey, Wolverine and Hawkeye.

Everyone has a role to play in a well written story- and powerful as Thor is there are no shortage of Threats out there that he can't simply hammer and thunder his way out of.

Also, I had a lot of fun putting this one together. Condensing an arc just feels more satisfying than posting one off feats. Maybe sometime in the future I'll put together something for Annihilation and War of Kings. Marvel cosmic doesn't get enough representation and NOVA is amazing :)

Nova is a bigot and a racist.
 
Yea, Winter Soldier is more up her alley. The problem is that when you get into the real heavyweight category, which is starting up with Ultron, the writers have to start coming up with contrived scenarios for characters to be useful. We'll see how they handle it going forward with A2 and A3.

True, but winter soldier itself was a contrived scenario.

Spoilering because some people have yet to see the movie.

from the very beginning, we see Cap taking out a boat full of terrorists damn near single handedly, and the rest of the team is almost redundant. Cap is doing the heavy lifting, while Fury uses Widow to steal the information on HYDRA he's really after...because Widow is willing to do things cap is not, putting the acquisition of the data before the lives of the captives.

Later on in the film we see Captain America and Falcon making a run to take out three rogue helicarriers nearly single handedly. One is a super soldier, the other can fly. Widow is completely useless at knocking out helicarriers, but serves a useful role anyway, infiltrating SHIELD, clearing the way for fury, and releasing the data on HYDRA that dismantles the organization.

It's not that much of a stretch in A2 to see helicarriers replaced with Ultron, and Cap and Falcon replaced with Thor or Hulk. It's all in the writing, and the comics have handled this well for decades.
 
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