Damn, what an OP. The ending to the Godbomb might have been the most epic goddamn thing I've ever seen in comic form.
The current story arc is a lot of fun, too. Old Thor vs Galactus!
A friend was telling me that 'marvel now' is like a reboot of the 616 universe or something? Is that what this Thor thing is apart of?
No to the first question, yes to the second. Marvel Now did not reboot continuity; it's designed to make jumping-on points easier to find. They did a great job with it, most of the Marvel Now and All-New Marvel Now books are the easiest books to just pick up and read.
Then I'm curious, how far back does the 616 continuity technically go? I'm not really familiar with how the series have connected I've usually just said hey I'm in the X-Men or Iron Man mood and have gone from their sort of want to get the whole picture. But yeah what all is still pretty relevant prior to marvel now?
I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.
This kind of stuff is what the Thor solo movies should be. Crazy mystical spacetime god stuff that only Thor can handle. The Avengers movies should be his vacation days, basically.
Marvel has always had the same continuity. I mean, there have been retcons as you'd expect but it's the same universe they've been using since Fantastic Four #1 in 1961. Cap is older of course but his oldest comics pre-date the shared universe concept. There has never been a reboot for 616.
The oldest stories still get referenced in new comics as though they just happened a few years ago.
I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.
Holy shit, no clue it went so far back. One thing I have enjoyed about the ultimates series is that is very much a complete fresh start, which handles origins stories and what not. Does Marvel now explore that stuff all existing prior. Maybe I shouldn't be thinking in terms of the 616 universe, but as series that tell that continuities story. Because I'd like to pick a starting point that very much handles origins as well..
Or you know, Thor could go crazy holding the line in some crazy space battle. Where lesser heroes are taking care of other equally important crisis of a multi-pronged attack. There could totally be a way to write in someone with that drastic of a hike in power.
Or you know, Thor could go crazy holding the line in some crazy space battle. Where lesser heroes are taking care of other equally important crisis of a multi-pronged attack. There could totally be a way to write in someone with that drastic of a hike in power.
That was an excellent read, great OP. So which volumes do I need to buy?
That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?
That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?
Fucking outstanding.
The current Thor films are a massive missed opportunity.
let's not start THAT again
I love superhero debates. But that is one that needs to be retired.
Well that's certainly one way to interpret that line.
My only problem with the story is...
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He got the idea from the GOATDual Wield Mjolnirs.
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One of Mjonrirs cheif and most used ability is to absorb energy.That's some pretty impressive stuff. When it says that "He's... absorbing it. He's taking the blast into himself," am I to understand that this means he's absorbing the energies of a bomb that is supposed to somehow destroy every god in every existence everywhere and in every time? Or is he absorbing it into Mjolnir(s)?
Real talk that is jsut because Superman is more famous. Thor has done things that equal and a lot fo cases surpasses Superman. And a lot fop Superman feats are against shit that doesn't fight back.The thing that always bothers me about the Superman vs Thor debate is that Superman's highest end feats seem a lot more impressive to me - at least in terms of demonstrated feats of speed (under one's own power), strength, destructive ability, etc. Thor seems to win it because he's a particularly bad opponent for Supes more than anything else.
... Well, it would be really quite silly of him to absorb the energies into himself when he happens to be holding two hammers, even one of which is capable of absorbing the energies of a bomb capable of destroying a fifth of the universe.
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Edit: Manmademan, I suppose that makes more sense. Maybe. I need to read it to find out.
I agree.yeah that was the first time this story happened, Thor basically took all he had and then bitch slapped him with the odin force , odin was gone and thor was tappin enchantress. This new one had a whole scheme behind it mad scientist type, the other guy was warrior type.
either way stories been done, this recent one was better.
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Thor 3 should be an adaptation of this story. It has time travel for gods' sakes
I don't think that MCU Thor could be made this powerful and still make much sense or be entertaining. Thor is absurdly powerful when he's pissed off, and if he could do godbeam level stuff there would be even less point in anyone else existing than in 616, where things are less grounded and lower level guys still become useless after a point. He basically has to be nerfed, same as the rest of them.
That's it! You want to know how the story concludes, pick up the trade!
I definitely agree MCU Thor shouldn't be on this level. Would make the rest of the Avenger team useless as dirt.
I definitely agree MCU Thor shouldn't be on this level. Would make the rest of the Avenger team useless as dirt.
Yea we'll see how that plays out. The movie versions of pretty much all the characters haven't been up to the ridiculous levels in the comics, and for good reason.
As someone else said, not necessarily. The 616 version of the Avengers manages to juggle a team consisting of world breaking heavyweights like Thor, Hyperion, and Sentry with low powered street level heroes like Cap, Spidey, Wolverine and Hawkeye.
Everyone has a role to play in a well written story- and powerful as Thor is there are no shortage of Threats out there that he can't simply hammer and thunder his way out of.
They already had issues with Black Widow and finding scenarios for her to be useful.
True, but that's because black widow was on a team with Cap *and* Hawkeye, both of which have the same skill set she does, but are better in combat.
Black widow's strength is in espionage and spy stuff, which doesn't REALLY work when your opponent is an asgardian god and an invading extraterrestrial army. I understand why her character was there, but BW REALLY should have been replaced by someone else- probably captain marvel, Monica rambeau, the valkyrie, she-hulk, or scarlet witch.
Winter Soldier though? Totally different story. Widow had a ton to do that didn't revolve around punching out aliens and she was useful to the plot.
Maybe sometime in the future I'll put together something for Annihilation and War of Kings. Marvel cosmic doesn't get enough representation and NOVA is amazing![]()
As someone else said, not necessarily. The 616 version of the Avengers manages to juggle a team consisting of world breaking heavyweights like Thor, Hyperion, and Sentry with low powered street level heroes like Cap, Spidey, Wolverine and Hawkeye.
Everyone has a role to play in a well written story- and powerful as Thor is there are no shortage of Threats out there that he can't simply hammer and thunder his way out of.
Also, I had a lot of fun putting this one together. Condensing an arc just feels more satisfying than posting one off feats. Maybe sometime in the future I'll put together something for Annihilation and War of Kings. Marvel cosmic doesn't get enough representation and NOVA is amazing![]()
Yea, Winter Soldier is more up her alley. The problem is that when you get into the real heavyweight category, which is starting up with Ultron, the writers have to start coming up with contrived scenarios for characters to be useful. We'll see how they handle it going forward with A2 and A3.
Nova is a bigot and a racist.
Oh come on! Don't ruin NOVA for me