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Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Move your Mac even further ahead
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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That's my point. Hardware plays a role. The first gen iPad can't do it and neither can Core 2 Duo Macs.
AirParrot works. Go for it. Apple is handling the process in a different way that requires newer hardware with hardware encoding capabilities.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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I really happy to have Notes as a desktop application now.
Bye bye TextEdit, it's been fun!
Bye bye TextEdit, it's been fun!
If I remember well, last year Lion became available around 9AM PST.
PeakPointMatrix
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Is Expose still utter shit?
mescalineeyes
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No, Expose is fucking amazing again now.
You can make it behave like it did pre-Lion.
I am seriously happy about this new option. I never really clicked with how windows were grouped together with Lion. I found it made it tougher to get to one in the background.
PeakPointMatrix
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No, Expose is fucking amazing again now.
You can make it behave like it did pre-Lion.
Hot DAMN!
This is literally more important to me than the other 200 updates. Thank goodness, no more dealing with that trainwreck of windows! Thank you apple!
While it would be incredibly easy to include a snide missive towards certain people here, I'll just say that seeing this is part of why I'm less hesitant to upgrade.
mescalineeyes
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I hear you loud and clear.
And here I always thought my english was pretty good, but I can't even tell what the fuck is going on in this post.
mescalineeyes
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Expose with grouping on (Default / the Lion way)
Expose with grouping off (Toggle / the "old" Snow Leopard way)
And of course, "active application windows only" is still here.
These screenshots were taken from a Thunderbolt Display. They're PNGs and I did not resize them. Just sayin'.
Expose with grouping off (Toggle / the "old" Snow Leopard way)
And of course, "active application windows only" is still here.
These screenshots were taken from a Thunderbolt Display. They're PNGs and I did not resize them. Just sayin'.
so is it true that system/security updates will henceforth go through the App Store and not the system's own software update mechanism?
i feel so out of the loop with this and Windows 8. yeah, i know of the larger changes (Notification Center, uh...it's faster?,...) but that's about it. i may actually make use out of Siracusa's magnum opus on the OS tomorrow!
i feel so out of the loop with this and Windows 8. yeah, i know of the larger changes (Notification Center, uh...it's faster?,...) but that's about it. i may actually make use out of Siracusa's magnum opus on the OS tomorrow!
mescalineeyes
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Yup. If you click on Software Update now, it opens the App Store. Also, all Dev Updates have been deployed this way.
I've been using the OS extensively for 3-4 months now, so if you have any questions I'll do my best to answer them throughout the day.
thanks!
i was close to installing a friend's GM build but was hesitant because i wasn't sure how updates would function should Apple run a check to see if ML was on my purchase list first. it was easier to just stick with Lion and wait to buy ML to remove all doubt.
i was close to installing a friend's GM build but was hesitant because i wasn't sure how updates would function should Apple run a check to see if ML was on my purchase list first. it was easier to just stick with Lion and wait to buy ML to remove all doubt.
mescalineeyes
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speed. notification center. incredible speed. security. holy shit it's so fast, yo.
Mailenstein
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Roaring Apps makes me not wanna update .
.What's does notification centre do that Growl doesn't?
mescalineeyes
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it never forgets.
PhoncipleBone
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Does it ever forgive?
In due time, and after lots and lots of chocolate.
Ok, was going to do some housekeeping with my mac to prepare.
For example:
Delete some 32-bit stuff (have istatserver, dunno if it has an extension, but I never use it anyway).
I was going to delete my fink installation and reinstall when it fixes, but it's pretty self-contained.
Wanted to delete Xcode properly, but looking at my notes, looks like i did that already when I installed 4.3
Was going to uninstall iMessage beta to be 'cleaner', but I guess installing place over that is ok, as mentioned earlier. Iw as worried it might leave some remnants of ichat or something, but I notice that iChat kind of exists inside it.
I'm interested in resetting my GID back to my user, as per tiger and leopard, just to see if ML FIXES it. Currently I'm on GID as staff as it's supposed to be in Lion, not a member, just added my Primary GID as staff.
just a bunch of stuff like that.
But I think I might be good to just install in place like I have always done.
For example:
Delete some 32-bit stuff (have istatserver, dunno if it has an extension, but I never use it anyway).
I was going to delete my fink installation and reinstall when it fixes, but it's pretty self-contained.
Wanted to delete Xcode properly, but looking at my notes, looks like i did that already when I installed 4.3
Was going to uninstall iMessage beta to be 'cleaner', but I guess installing place over that is ok, as mentioned earlier. Iw as worried it might leave some remnants of ichat or something, but I notice that iChat kind of exists inside it.
I'm interested in resetting my GID back to my user, as per tiger and leopard, just to see if ML FIXES it. Currently I'm on GID as staff as it's supposed to be in Lion, not a member, just added my Primary GID as staff.
just a bunch of stuff like that.
But I think I might be good to just install in place like I have always done.
Thanks , never heard of air parrot. Will check it out.
It's faster than snow leopard ? I hope that's true because lion was a huge downgrade in speed from snow leopard.,
Also, as someone who's gone from 10.5.8 -> 10.7.4 on a variety of hardware - both legit and not (tee hee) - I've never felt that Lion was a clunker in terms of speed. It never felt slower than Snow Leopard in daily use, and some features like SAMBA browsing felt significantly faster.
It did require a bit more maintenance at first due to the whole saving windows box that always reappeared at reboot/shutdown, but that was fixed...eventually.
It did require a bit more maintenance at first due to the whole saving windows box that always reappeared at reboot/shutdown, but that was fixed...eventually.
mescalineeyes
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I think it is. And I also thought Lion wasn't all that at first.
But alas, Scorcho says Lion was plenty fast so I can't argue with that either. ML feels faster is what I'll say.
SuperEpicMan
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I haven't had a mac very long, only since spring but can anyone tell me if there is anything I should be doing to prepare for this e.g. backups.
Or can you just dive straight into it without worrying about apps and programs disappearing.
Or can you just dive straight into it without worrying about apps and programs disappearing.
YMMV of course, but that's my experience with the OS in daily use. On any given day I could be using Lion on something as 'low' as a 1st gen aluminum iMac with 4GB of RAM or a quad-core behemoth with 8GB of RAM and an SSD. Neither system 'feels' slow to me, though that's not to say there isn't a massive difference once I start using certain pro-level apps...
sucks about your system, though. was that a clean install or did you upgrade it from SL? i've only noticed lag on Lion when connecting a Firewire drive since its so finicky about cables :/
i remember some of that space was due to Apple choosing (wisely) not to install GBs of printer drivers by default. the rest of the saved space was a glorified accounting trick, though; Apple simply changed the way it calculated GBs in Snow Leopard and beyond, making the 'saved' space appear larger than it actually was.
sucks about your system, though. was that a clean install or did you upgrade it from SL? i've only noticed lag on Lion when connecting a Firewire drive since its so finicky about cables :/
mescalineeyes
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SuperEpicMan
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Thanks, can't wait to download this.
CarbonatedFalcon
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I passed on Lion because I disliked some feature changes from Snow Leopard. I may upgrade to Mountain Lion now though.
One thing in particular that bugged me (I know you can turn it off, but still...) was the "natural scrolling" default that reversed scrolling. Makes no sense when using a mouse, and it's kind of an iffy design decision even using a trackpad. The disconnect between the screen and the interface you're interacting with makes it completely different from using an iPhone or iPod Touch, but Apple didn't seem to care in favor of an overarching unified design.
One thing in particular that bugged me (I know you can turn it off, but still...) was the "natural scrolling" default that reversed scrolling. Makes no sense when using a mouse, and it's kind of an iffy design decision even using a trackpad. The disconnect between the screen and the interface you're interacting with makes it completely different from using an iPhone or iPod Touch, but Apple didn't seem to care in favor of an overarching unified design.
mescalineeyes
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Natural scrolling is actually much, much better. Use it for a day and you'll be hard-pressed to disagree.
Tony Rocky Horror
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You do realize you can switch it back to the old way even though it only takes a day to get used to?
how is it better?
Apple took years of muscle memory, reversed it by default, and marketed it as 'natural'. if the mechanics of scrolling on a mouse or trackpad is already ingrained in you, there's no reason to switch at all. it's not hard to disassociate scrolling on a touch screen versus an abstracted layer like a mouse wheel or trackpad.
there's literally zero improvement in the switch.
PhoncipleBone
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Natural scrolling was stupid an pointless if you are using a mouse. Also nigh impossible to get used to. But on a trackpad it took minimal time to adjust to it.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Did you read what I wrote? I know you can switch it, and have on my account with other computers around the house that have been upgraded to Lion. On my personal laptop, I stuck with Snow Leopard.
It's like the inverted sticks argument on controllers. Both are valid, sure, but you're not going to convince me. Especially after over a decade of using it the opposite way.
PhoncipleBone
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Out of curiosity, are you saying you used inverted sticks before? Because I remember almost everything being inverted for the longest time, but around the time the Xbox hit inverted had to specifically be enabled instead of the default. I seem to be the only person I know that prefers inverted sticks.
Bomber Bob
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yeah I remember Natural scrolling when I first tried Lion. reverted to normal in an heartbeat.
Yeah I know where the space came from (and I know about the accounting trick). It also came from dumping PowerPC as well.
It's more that my Mac is on the EDGE of Mountain Lion. Non-unibody early 2008 MacBook Pro.
It's just on its last legs. Just hoping ML gives me a breather
Actually, I hope ML dumps my old deprecated printer drivers too.
Ah well, one of these days I'll get a new Mac, and I'll transfer files and apps at that point as opposed to install in place.
I just get laggy moments, as opposed to general slowness in use.
I use natural scrolling. I have no beef with either way. I just use it because Apple throws it at me.
I generally adapt to whatever, and stick to defaults. Only a few changes do I really implement myself.
UnluckyKate
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Does it have correct widows management a-la Windows 7 ? Cinch is good but I'd hate to pay for another mac os lacking this basic feature
If you have Cinch you don't have to pay for it again?
I actually don't use Cinch at all any more. I've adapted by usage around the differences. Now whenever I go back to Win7 I constantly try and exposé.
Install Better Touch Tools - it's free, allows you to completely customize trackpad gestures system and app-wide, as well as mouse/trackpad and keyboard support for Windows 7's window snapping feature. did i mention it's also free? as in free?!
should be the first thing any Mac user installs.
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