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Mac OSX Noob thread of OSX noobs

dmshaposv

Member
According to the interwebs, the verdict is that 10.6.7 hasn't entirely solved the problem.

People at apple discussion forums are still able to reproduce the hard freeze even with the update. :(
 

NekoFever

Member
Battersea Power Station said:
What's the attraction to desktop apps? Every day I read more praise of Sparrow, but even if it has all the functionality of Gmail, what would make me use it over Gmail? Not trolling -- just asking.
I use a few different IMAP accounts, for one, including my main personal email.

I prefer a native desktop app as well. Maybe I'm being old-fashioned but I still find the idea of doing serious work through a web app kind of kludgy.
 

Burger

Member
Battersea Power Station said:
What's the attraction to desktop apps? Every day I read more praise of Sparrow, but even if it has all the functionality of Gmail, what would make me use it over Gmail? Not trolling -- just asking.

Sparrow is beautiful, it has little badges on the dock icon, it integrates with Growl well, it includes all the functions of Gmail that I use except chat, it's fast and well designed, and most of all, I don't have to log in to anything. Also, it runs in the background without a window open.

Worth it.
 

Jasoco

Banned
Battersea Power Station said:
What's the attraction to desktop apps? Every day I read more praise of Sparrow, but even if it has all the functionality of Gmail, what would make me use it over Gmail? Not trolling -- just asking.
I prefer to use Mail.app over Gmail so I can archive my mail on my computer. It comes from many email addresses over the last 10 years. If I ever had to switch from Gmail, it'll be nice to still have my email from now even when my other email comes in. I don't really use email much though. Most of my emails are newsletters from companies that sell shit and forum notifications for other forums. (I turned them off for GAF when I discovered the Subscriptions page. I wish and prefer that all forums had that.)

But I prefer to use Twitter.com instead of a Twitter app on my Mac, but the awesome Twitter app on my iPad and not Twitter.com. The app is amazing and it makes me wish the same people would take the FaceBook app from the mean jerkface who decided not to make one for the iPad. (Friendly sucks. I decided. I have switched back to a facebook.com bookmark on my Dock.)
 

LCfiner

Member
Yeah, I like using Mail for gmail but it also consolidates my work exchange account and my ISP account. no point opening a separate browser when i can have all mail in one place.

while the webapp for gmail is serviceable (and what I use while on Windows, with the extension that Meus posted), I prefer the feel of the native Mail app with IMAP and, bonus, no ads :)
 

Jasoco

Banned
I look at Gmail when out and about, but it keeps my email on the server until Mail gets to it then it is removed. I know I could keep all my email on the server, but I had a bad experience once where I had it set to leave the emails on the server then something fucked up and it downloaded it twice. So I don't trust keeping the mail on the server anymore. I'd rather pull it all off and remove it and avoid any problems.
 
Battersea Power Station said:
What's the attraction to desktop apps? Every day I read more praise of Sparrow, but even if it has all the functionality of Gmail, what would make me use it over Gmail? Not trolling -- just asking.
Because fuck the cloud, that's why.

I guess I'm just old fashioned in my preference of my mail being stored locally.
 

Burger

Member
lunarworks said:
Because fuck the cloud, that's why.

I guess I'm just old fashioned in my preference of my mail being stored locally.

Yuk. Gmail has my entire personal email going back to 2005. I would be a little bummed out if I lost it all, and it's always a possibility, but it's just not very likely.

(oh and Meus, Sparrow uses 0.0 CPU for me while idle).
 

ngower

Member
lunarworks said:
Because fuck the cloud, that's why.

I guess I'm just old fashioned in my preference of my mail being stored locally.

I'm pretty much with this statement. Believe it or not, sometimes we have computers when they aren't connected to the internet!

My college has embarrassingly slow internet and it is very unreliable. If I were reliant upon accessing this or that from a particular e-mail account, I would be wasting very valuable time.

Furthermore, it is nice to have a local app that centralizes my school account and internet-based accounts.
 

Burger

Member
ngower said:
I'm pretty much with this statement. Believe it or not, sometimes we have computers when they aren't connected to the internet!

Uhh, I don't think IMAP works the way you think it works.
 
I finally made the jump, and bought a Macbook Pro today!! I am as excited (probably, much, much more) as everyone here. I don't have any specific questions per se, but any tips, program recommendations, etc would be great. I did read the OP, and for the most part I agree with what he started with. I'm sure I will browse the thread, but it is a rather large one.

All I need now is some AppleTV and I will be true Apple. lol
 

TxdoHawk

Member
dmshaposv said:
According to the interwebs, the verdict is that 10.6.7 hasn't entirely solved the problem.

People at apple discussion forums are still able to reproduce the hard freeze even with the update. :(

It has definitely fixed the problems for some people. I think we're dealing with multiple problems here, though...lots of users running at abnormally high temperatures when near-idle makes me think physical cooling issues are in the mix here too for some.

After hemming and hawing over various models, I finally pulled the trigger on a refurb i5 15" from mid-2010. For the price of a brand new 13", it was an easy decision.
 

giga

Member
Bertrand "Mad Eye" Serlet is leaving :(

CUPERTINO, California—March 23, 2011—Apple® today announced that Bertrand Serlet, Apple’s senior vice president of Mac® Software Engineering, will be leaving the company. Craig Federighi, Apple’s vice president of Mac Software Engineering, will assume Serlet’s responsibilities and report to Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. Federighi is responsible for the development of Mac OS® X and has been managing the Mac OS software engineering group for the past two years.

“I’ve worked with Steve for 22 years and have had an incredible time developing products at both NeXT and Apple, but at this point, I want to focus less on products and more on science,” said Bertrand Serlet, Apple’s senior vice president of Software Engineering. “Craig has done a great job managing the Mac OS team for the past two years, Lion is a great release and the transition should be seamless.”

Federighi worked at NeXT, followed by Apple, and then spent a decade at Ariba where he held several roles including vice president of Internet Services and chief technology officer. He returned to Apple in 2009 to lead Mac OS X engineering. Federighi holds a Master of Science degree in Computer Science and a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from the University of California, Berkeley.

Serlet joined Apple in 1997, and has been involved in the definition, development and creation of Mac OS X, the world’s most advanced operating system. Before joining Apple, Serlet spent four years at Xerox PARC, then joined NeXT in 1989. Serlet holds a doctorate in Computer Science from the University of Orsay, France.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/03/23serlet.html
 

ngower

Member
Burger said:
Uhh, I don't think IMAP works the way you think it works.

I don't know what you're implying. I'm saying that I check my e-mail, it is stored locally, and I can then search my mailbox for a phone number or a document or any myriad of things that are stored on my hard drive. If you tell me I'm wrong, then I'm living in a dream world where I've been doing this for the past few years.
 
Having a problem.

I use my PC as a server to stream media to my Mac - connecting to it using SMB and the PC's IP address. This is a scenario. PC and Mac are both on, everything works fine. The PC is then switched off and restarted. I can't connect to it on the Mac even though the PC sees the Mac, is connected to it, and able to access the Shared Folders listed on the Mac. I have to then restart the Mac - but whilst it closes the dock and menu bar, it freezes at the wallpaper. The only way to restart it is by holding down the power button for three seconds.
 
I'm having trouble figuring out what I'll eventually replace my 2.5 year-old MBP. It's always plugged into a 27-inch monitor with a keyboard and mouse, accompanied by a netbook for school and whatnot. I find that these things just aren't portable enough (the MBP) what with their size, heat, and battery life. The most sensible thing to do would be to just build a 500 dollar PC for it's cost-effectiveness (I already have a case) and buy an Air or iPad, but I'd hate to lose OS X on my "primary" computer. Power consumption would also rise, and I'd lose out on space and portability of having something laptop-sized (I move semi-frequently). I guess I just wish the Mac Mini sucked less, or that the Air was more powerful. Any suggestions as to which "path" I should take over the next 2-ish years would be greatly appreciated. It's occupying my thoughts more than it should. MBA+PC seems like the most logical to me, but again, I'd rather have OS X be my primary OS.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Jimmy Stav said:
I'm having trouble figuring out what I'll eventually replace my 2.5 year-old MBP. It's always plugged into a 27-inch monitor with a keyboard and mouse, accompanied by a netbook for school and whatnot. I find that these things just aren't portable enough (the MBP) what with their size, heat, and battery life. The most sensible thing to do would be to just build a 500 dollar PC for it's cost-effectiveness (I already have a case) and buy an Air or iPad, but I'd hate to lose OS X on my "primary" computer. Power consumption would also rise, and I'd lose out on space and portability of having something laptop-sized (I move semi-frequently). I guess I just wish the Mac Mini sucked less, or that the Air was more powerful. Any suggestions as to which "path" I should take over the next 2-ish years would be greatly appreciated. It's occupying my thoughts more than it should. MBA+PC seems like the most logical to me, but again, I'd rather have OS X be my primary OS.
You didn't consider an iMac?
 

Burger

Member
ngower said:
I don't know what you're implying. I'm saying that I check my e-mail, it is stored locally, and I can then search my mailbox for a phone number or a document or any myriad of things that are stored on my hard drive. If you tell me I'm wrong, then I'm living in a dream world where I've been doing this for the past few years.

Just because you use IMAP doesn't mean you can't look at your recent mail without an internet connection, you can. Admittedly it doesn't store all your email locally, but I haven't yet had the need to look at an email from 2005 on my iPhone when I get into an area without coverage.

Personally, I find that having a central point for my mail on the internet (Gmail) and then have my devices (iPhone/Computer/etc) stay in sync with it, keeping the last 50 or so messages locally.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
New program I'm happy to recommend.

http://www.whatsizemac.com/

I was struggling trying to figure out what files I could move off of my SSD and onto other drives/partitions or simply delete entirely. This app shows the files on your machine and, how much space they take up For example:

I'll be moving the entire DVD Studio Pro folder to one of of my SSD and onto one of my HDD partitions, then creating a simlink. So far, I've gone from 15GB free on the SSD to 36GB free and counting.

screenshot20110202at315.png


Edit: correction, make that 45.59GB free (post DVD Studio Pro move)!

It's worth the cost of admission for this kind of functionality. I'm not sure if this kind of feature is available in another program for free, but it's saved me a ton of time and space.
just wanted to bump this. I just used it to help a friend reclaim about 90GB of space they didn't even know was being used.
 

Ashhong

Member
Dreams-Visions said:
just wanted to bump this. I just used it to help a friend reclaim about 90GB of space they didn't even know was being used.

I dont understand, how do they not know it was being used? What is the benefit of using this over simply uninstalling a program?
 
hey that software is pretty cool, i use a similar program but its free.Jdiskreport, the features of what size mac looks much better though, i like the duplicate file finder thingy. That will really help with stretching the space on this 64gb model.
 
Ashhong said:
I dont understand, how do they not know it was being used? What is the benefit of using this over simply uninstalling a program?

I'm guessing they had some huge files they forgot they had on the computer.. The advantage is this program lets you easily find them. :p
 
Ashhong said:
I dont understand, how do they not know it was being used? What is the benefit of using this over simply uninstalling a program?
people lose track of files over time. Especially over the course of years (his case). in my case, I had soem pro apps (like Adobe Soundbooth) making large backup copies of files I'd work on without my knowledge.

Other times, I found that apps just installed a lot of "helper" files in random places. Final Cut Studio, for example, houses a lot of its files in /Library/Application Support. Like, 9GB-10GB folders! You'd never know unless you were looking for it and knew where to look. This app allowed me to find them, move those files elsewhere and symlink them back. (see image).

it also allowed me to delete other such findings entirely. <3
 

mrkgoo

Member
Is it basically a finder that orders files and folders bybsize and displays that size?

Finder needs that functionality! It's the kind of thing apple does, but ig uess with focus moving away from file systems...
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Dreams-Visions said:
people lose track of files over time. Especially over the course of years (his case). in my case, I had soem pro apps (like Adobe Soundbooth) making large backup copies of files I'd work on without my knowledge.

Other times, I found that apps just installed a lot of "helper" files in random places. Final Cut Studio, for example, houses a lot of its files in /Library/Application Support. Like, 9GB-10GB folders! You'd never know unless you were looking for it and knew where to look. This app allowed me to find them, move those files elsewhere and symlink them back. (see image).

it also allowed me to delete other such findings entirely. <3
Can it be configured to show hidden files?
 

Ashhong

Member
mrkgoo said:
Is it basically a finder that orders files and folders bybsize and displays that size?

Finder needs that functionality! It's the kind of thing apple does, but ig uess with focus moving away from file systems...

Pretty much.

And yes, it shows hidden files by default

I have a bootcamp issue lately. When I'm in my W7 bootcamp, for some reason I cant access all of my files on the OSX side like I used to. I used to be able to access my music and whatnot and listen while on W7, but suddenly my folders are empty when viewing from W7. Any ideas?
 

Burger

Member
Ashhong said:
Pretty much.

And yes, it shows hidden files by default

I have a bootcamp issue lately. When I'm in my W7 bootcamp, for some reason I cant access all of my files on the OSX side like I used to. I used to be able to access my music and whatnot and listen while on W7, but suddenly my folders are empty when viewing from W7. Any ideas?

Windows cannot read HFS partitions by default.

Get MacDrive.
 
giga said:
List view, sort by size. CMD+J.

Doesn't have all the perks of WhatSize, but it's free and you don't have to install anything.

Holy shit! :eek:

Finally I know the size of my folders. Why this is not default is beyond me.
 

Ashhong

Member
Burger said:
Windows cannot read HFS partitions by default.

Get MacDrive.

Actually Bootcamp got updated so that you could read the HFS partition

HFS+ read support in Boot Camp.

Boot Camp now includes HFS+ read support that enables you to access the files on your Mac OS X partition from Windows. It’s read-only to prevent PC viruses from affecting Mac OS X, but you can easily save your work to your Windows partition and access it later from Mac OS X.
 

Burger

Member
Ashhong said:
Actually Bootcamp got updated so that you could read the HFS partition

HFS+ read support in Boot Camp.

Boot Camp now includes HFS+ read support that enables you to access the files on your Mac OS X partition from Windows. It’s read-only to prevent PC viruses from affecting Mac OS X, but you can easily save your work to your Windows partition and access it later from Mac OS X.

Well how about that. But OS X still can't read NTFS can it?
 

ericexpo

Member
need some help,

turned on Macbook and the white screen stayed up for like 10 mins with no Apple, then the no circle came up and then it booted into Windows. OSX still wont boot.
GAF what should i do?
 
Ashhong said:
Pretty much.

And yes, it shows hidden files by default

I have a bootcamp issue lately. When I'm in my W7 bootcamp, for some reason I cant access all of my files on the OSX side like I used to. I used to be able to access my music and whatnot and listen while on W7, but suddenly my folders are empty when viewing from W7. Any ideas?

By the way, have you been able to connect to another PC as a server and share files?
 

Burger

Member
ericexpo said:
need some help,

turned on Macbook and the white screen stayed up for like 10 mins with no Apple, then the no circle came up and then it booted into Windows. OSX still wont boot.
GAF what should i do?

Boot from your OS DVD (hold down C when booting). Open Disk Utility, check out your drive. If you can repair it, do so.

Also hold down Option when booting to see a list of available bootable drives.
 

Ashhong

Member
Burger said:
Well how about that. But OS X still can't read NTFS can it?

It can read the Windows 7 partition just fine, if thats what you mean. I thought it can also read a NTFS USB drive, just not write to it?

Meus Renaissance said:
By the way, have you been able to connect to another PC as a server and share files?

Yea I got it working with your help. Forgot to message back and say thanks :D
 

Burger

Member
Ashhong said:
It can read the Windows 7 partition just fine, if thats what you mean. I thought it can also read a NTFS USB drive, just not write to it?

Ahh right yeah, so they are both read only without the help of additional software.
 

ericexpo

Member
Burger said:
Boot from your OS DVD (hold down C when booting). Open Disk Utility, check out your drive. If you can repair it, do so.

Also hold down Option when booting to see a list of available bootable drives.
Finally able to boot, backing up now
Thanks
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Burger said:
Sparrow is beautiful, it has little badges on the dock icon, it integrates with Growl well, it includes all the functions of Gmail that I use except chat, it's fast and well designed, and most of all, I don't have to log in to anything. Also, it runs in the background without a window open.

Worth it.
Running in background without window open, it still means you have to start it first, correct? So it's like regular Mail app which also runs even if you close its window.

It's not like facetime which can detect that someone is calling you when the application is not even started at all?
 

Burger

Member
Lord Error said:
Running in background without window open, it still means you have to start it first, correct? So it's like regular Mail app which also runs even if you close its window.

It's not like facetime which can detect that someone is calling you when the application is not even started at all?

Err yeah, unless you add it to your login items and tell it to hide on startup, it works just like a regular mail program. It's not like Mail on iOS.
 

kaskade

Member
I'm going to do a backup of my HDD. I'm not sure if I want to go the Superduper route or Time Machine. I'm wondering if I can boot from an external drive. If my HDD fails would I be able to boot from the external drive, then transfer it to a new drive? I was was thinking of getting a 3.5" drive because of the price and size. IIRC it's possible to install leopard with a time machine backup. I'm just not sure which route would be best.
 
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