Video and more at the link, it's a short article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/v...ilege-thrift-shop-backlash-interview-20141230
Dress me up like a Jewish man if old.
Edit: An overview of the video from fellow gaffer enzo_gt:
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Video and more at the link, it's a short article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/v...ilege-thrift-shop-backlash-interview-20141230
Dress me up like a Jewish man if old.
Edit: An overview of the video from fellow gaffer enzo_gt:
Black Republican
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finished watching the youtube vid just recently, really good points made and you can tell hes honest
DrGonzo615
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eudaemonic
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Macklemorgan Freeman?
That's freaky.
I hate this guy. First of all, nice LTTP comment. Secondly, way to presume white liberals have the attitude you present in your statements. Additionally, your comment isnt a new or revolutionary thought, so stop acting like it is. Lastly, if you feel so strongly, start marching on the fucking streets with the protestors from all colors and races rather than make idiotic comments from your comfy LA mansion or wherever the fuck you live. Macklemore, in short, please stfu because you are not noble and righteous.
Enzo dropped a quick summary if you don't feel like watching an hour long video.
Personally I think it's the same shit we've already heard but it must fucking suck for the dude to be pushed up against a wall of the racial issue whether he wants to or not. Whether you think the dude's a cac or not, being white has basically written the current narrative of his career so far without his input. Gotta wonder if at some point he should just cut and run with his shit rather than bowing and scraping every time he shows up for an interview. I mean being humble is cool and all but fuck son...
Personally I think it's the same shit we've already heard but it must fucking suck for the dude to be pushed up against a wall of the racial issue whether he wants to or not. Whether you think the dude's a cac or not, being white has basically written the current narrative of his career so far without his input. Gotta wonder if at some point he should just cut and run with his shit rather than bowing and scraping every time he shows up for an interview. I mean being humble is cool and all but fuck son...
shadowsdarknes
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you salty bro?
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I don't like him as an artist either. But he did protest in the streets with people during Ferguson. Also what he says isnt wrong just because we dont like him as an artist or because he's rich and privileged. That said in the past he's said some questionable things on Twitter. And him dressing up like a stereotypical Jewis man and then denying it, was offensive and shows ignorance.
I can't tell if he's genuine or an act. But I still think the words he said here are true regardless of the messenger.
Pickles the Firecat
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He uh...he totally did protest and march? Like a lot. Still does.
Gordon Shumway
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The fuck..lol. I don't know who this Mackerel guy is, but he sounds like I fine young man.
LaserBuddha
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ZaCH3000: hater stepping in a rake
Angelus Errare
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Macklemore said:
Pretty much how I see all those fucks. Like go swallow a box of nails then walk in front of a big ass magnet.
But Macklemore does walk amongst others and protests…
Zeus Molecules
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Japanmanx3
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This might sound weird but is it not wrong to assume that white people have no place in hiphop? I understand the origins, but surely the ideal world which we should strive for would be equality in everything for everyone. No more White/Black/Asian only dominated things as people would look past skin colour and see the person, same goes for the male/female divide.
lol. embarrassing.
Angelus Errare
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He didn't say white people have NO place in hip hop, he said white people need to know their place.
block tower
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i dont think ethnicity is even the problem when it comes to music and the issue of appropriation. i thinkthe real issue is sincerity and where the music is coming from. for instance many white rappers have never been apart of this conversation because of their sincerity. back in the 90's you had EL-P and Cage (two white hiphop artists) working with black hiphop artists and on quite a few tracks theyd openly say "nigga". it was never an issue because they were authentic and their backgrounds validated what type of hiphop the were trying to make. i think people like Macklemore get called out so much because they are basically posers using a popular genre to get ahead with traditionally white non-hiphop listeners, so its easy to spot their insincerity.
To be fair his stuff is a little more pop than most actual hip-hop. I do dig his stuff and have met him multiple times just walking around seattle, thrift shops included, and he is probably one of the most real people I've talked to.
That would be ideal, but that's not the world we live in.
Colonel Mustard
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And those people calling him out are ignorant. Macklemore didn't come out of nowhere with a pop-rap album and take over the game. The dude has been underground for over a decade and no one heard of him until one of his songs finally made it big. Then the white mainstream audience made him a pop star.
People making me defend Macklemore, SMH.
NipplesAndToes23
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I guess the colon with the P means you're joking, but if not rap's roots trace back to Jamaica.
Not yet, but if people keep putting up divides like Macklemore just did by saying that white people should know there place in hiphop then while you're not being racist saying it, you're still putting up a divide that shouldn't exist. At the end of the day we're all the same species, we all bleed the same way and we all digest food the same way. You shouldn't even need to bring skin colour up at all.
Aw hail naw.
DrGonzo615
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Thanks for that history lesson and the wet blanket...
I'm not sure why you're saying "you do", because I don't. I've always been brought up to treat everyone exactly the same regardless of gender. sex or race.
Colonel Mustard
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Brother Ali is fantastic. Sage does more spoken-word poetry than rap.
I'd trace it back to late 60's American poets, but i've never associated it with Jamaican music and I do listen to a fair bit of Jamaican ska.
Who influenced rap/hip-hop from Jamaica if you don't mind me asking?
Gordon Shumway
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I first saw Macklemore live about 14 years ago at a small club show.. he'd done literally thousands of shows in the Seattle area before going mainstream (and had small tours, as his underground following grew).
He's been a part of the Seattle hip-hop scene which includes people of a lot of different walks of life for a long time.. and he is from one of the most dense and diverse urban neighborhoods in the country. And he raps about his experiences just like anyone else, and his experiences are in fact.. genuine.
What makes him a poser?
I'm not a fan of his music for the most part.. but he really seems to get way too much hate. I watched the guy puke in an alley behind a bar in Seattle because he had the flu.. and he was on stage performing a 10-11 song set a few minutes later... that was a decade ago, and while I wasn't one of his groupies in the crowd rapping all of his lyrics I at least learned to respect the guys drive and artistry.
Angelus Errare
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Bubba Sparx is pretty good too.
Better than ignoring it.
You can't just pretend bad things don't exist because they shouldn't .
How are things going to get better if you don't at least acknowledge them.
You aren't in the public eye in an industry where race has historically played a large role.
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