macOS Sierra |OT| What can your Mac do now? Just ask

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Available: Tuesday 20th September 2016.

What's new in macOS Sierra

Download link from the Mac App Store

Features
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Siri
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Universal Copy & Paste
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Unlock with Watch
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Apple Pay in Safari
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Memories in Photos
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General Requirements
  • OS X 10.7.5 or newer
  • 2GB of memory

Mac Hardware Requirements
  • MacBook (Late 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2010 or newer)
  • Mac Mini (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • iMac (Late 2009 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)

OS X El Capitan OT here
OS X Yosemite OT here
 
Hmm... I am usually all over OS updates on day one, but as someone who does not and will not use an iPhone, there is basically nothing in the OP that makes me feel compelled to update. Siri sucks and I am never going to use it. I don't use any of Apple's default programs (Safari, Mail, Photos, etc.). Going to check out that Ars review and see if there are any performance boosts, but those highlighted features have me awash in a tidal wave of indifference.

EDIT: After going through the fulls Ars review (admittedly skipping over the super techy stuff like networking and file system changes), I see nothing to be excited about. Oh well!
 
Great OT.

I still think it's bullshit my more than capable 2009 Mac Pro is unable to run it though, but hey, Apple!
 
I was all set to do a wipe and reinstall for Sierra, but if APFS is hitting next year I'm not sure if I ought to wait until then
 
Xun said:
Great OT.

I still think it's bullshit my more than capable 2009 Mac Pro is unable to run it though, but hey, Apple!
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I thought last year with El Capitan would be the final OS that my late 2009 iMac would be able to update to. I got lucky this year with Sierra. Can't see my iMac getting lucky in 2017.

Even then, with Sierra, I'm scraping by. Siri seems the only newly advertised feature that would work.
 
snacknuts said:
Hmm... I am usually all over OS updates on day one, but as someone who does not and will not use an iPhone, there is basically nothing in the OP that makes me feel compelled to update. Siri sucks and I am never going to use it. I don't use any of Apple's default programs (Safari, Mail, Photos, etc.). Going to check out that Ars review and see if there are any performance boosts, but those highlighted features have me awash in a tidal wave of indifference.
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You're missing out on Siri. Using Siri to send messages, schedule appointments, play music, and so much more is indispensable to me.

It's a huge hole they are finally filling in by adding Siri to Mac OS.
 
My older MBP barely makes the cut.

Not sure I will upgrade it.

The only thing that jumps out to me is the copy and paste. Otherwise ho hum but I will upgrade my other computers if there are no huge bugs reported.
 
Tobor said:
You're missing out on Siri. Using Siri to send messages, schedule appointments, play music, and so much more is indispensable to me.

It's a huge hole they are finally filling in by adding Siri to Mac OS.
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If you're squarely in Apple's ecosystem I can see this being appealing. I am mostly a Google guy, so I use the voice stuff on Android all the time for the same thing. On a computer I would generally prefer to just use my keyboard and mouse, but even if I didn't feel that way, I can't use Siri to play something through Google Music on my MBP (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this).
 
bionic77 said:
You don't just say hey Siri like on the phone?
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Nope. From the Ars review:
There’s no option to enable any kind of “Hey Siri” voice activation. Apple says this is because most Mac users’ workflow will make a mouse click or keyboard shortcut a more natural way to bring Siri up, which makes sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were also concerns about retrofitting older hardware to listen for your voice all the time as iDevices do.
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snacknuts said:
Hmm... I am usually all over OS updates on day one, but as someone who does not and will not use an iPhone, there is basically nothing in the OP that makes me feel compelled to update. Siri sucks and I am never going to use it. I don't use any of Apple's default programs (Safari, Mail, Photos, etc.). Going to check out that Ars review and see if there are any performance boosts, but those highlighted features have me awash in a tidal wave of indifference.

EDIT: After going through the fulls Ars review (admittedly skipping over the super techy stuff like networking and file system changes), I see nothing to be excited about. Oh well!
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I feel the same. My MBPr is my only Apple product btw.
 
Siri is ok, use it sometimes on the phone don't see myself using it on the Mac.

Feature I like the most is iCloud syncing the desktop. Yeah, I can drop stuff on Dropbox or iCloud drive, and I do, but this is a great addition for my workflow.
 
snacknuts said:
If you're squarely in Apple's ecosystem I can see this being appealing. I am mostly a Google guy, so I use the voice stuff on Android all the time for the same thing. On a computer I would generally prefer to just use my keyboard and mouse, but even if I didn't feel that way, I can't use Siri to play something through Google Music on my MBP (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this).
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This is true. I am 100% in the Apple ecosystem, which makes Siri far more important and capable.
 
I checked the store to update, only to be denied. Then I remembered that my Macbook Pro (mid-2009) is officially unsupported.

looooool....=(
 
I'm reading through the Ars Technica review... will this Path Randomization feature impact users who still launch all their apps from the Applications folder?

What I mean is, I still launch apps using the Snow Leopard method. The Application folder is on my Dock, and I open it to start applications. Launchpad is annoying IMO.
 
Nice OP, OP.

I downloaded last night on my two macs at home but haven't installed yet. Unfortunately I'm treating it as just a security update because there's no features that are for me. I won't use Siri, I don't have an iPhone, I don't have an Apple Watch, and I use Chrome, and I use Google Photos.

Picture-in-Picture might be interesting, but not something I haven't been able to do before without a separate window... but still, will be interested to see how Apple implements it.

Otherwise, looking forward to new security or better processing/battery management.

snacknuts said:
Hmm... I am usually all over OS updates on day one, but as someone who does not and will not use an iPhone, there is basically nothing in the OP that makes me feel compelled to update. Siri sucks and I am never going to use it. I don't use any of Apple's default programs (Safari, Mail, Photos, etc.). Going to check out that Ars review and see if there are any performance boosts, but those highlighted features have me awash in a tidal wave of indifference.

EDIT: After going through the fulls Ars review (admittedly skipping over the super techy stuff like networking and file system changes), I see nothing to be excited about. Oh well!
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Yep, this is me. Apple computer, Android phone, use mostly Google services (Gmail, Google Photos, Google Music), and Microsoft productivity/office apps (Excel, Word, etc).
 
So only having a Mac book air and nothing else from apple, this update is bollocks to me rigth? Features highlights seems to be ecosystem only :(
 
Wowfunhappy said:
I'm reading through the Ars Technica review... will this Path Randomization feature impact users who still launch all their apps from the Applications folder?

What I mean is, I still launch apps using the Snow Leopard method. The Application folder is on my Dock, and I open it to start applications. Launchpad is annoying IMO.
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No. It will only affect specific apps that make assumptions about your system's file structure. It's a security feature.
 
The new optimize storage setting is really helpful. I just cleared up around 40GB of junk I probably would not have noticed otherwise.

Also, should I use iPhoto or Photos instead? Having 2 photo software seems redundant.
 
Downloading now but gosh, there really don't see to be any features that interest me in this update. I really don't care about Siri at all or any of Apple's first-party apps or ecosystem.
 
Bullza2o said:
The new optimize storage setting is really helpful. I just cleared up around 40GB of junk I probably would not have noticed otherwise.

Also, should I use iPhoto or Photos instead? Having 2 photo software seems redundant.
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Do you still have both on your computer? I was under the impression this was impossible; i thought Photos automaticallly replaced iPhoto.

Photos is the newer one, and the only one that's going to get updates going forward, so if you're undecided use that one. Some people prefer iPhoto though.
 
Bullza2o said:
The new optimize storage setting is really helpful. I just cleared up around 40GB of junk I probably would not have noticed otherwise.

Also, should I use iPhoto or Photos instead? Having 2 photo software seems redundant.
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There's no reason to use iPhoto. Photos does everything it does, and was rewritten from the ground up using macOS's modern features and libraries.

Aperture, on the other hand... still sad about that.
 
It used to be possible to close Mission Control by repeating the swipe up gesture. They changed it so you have to swipe down now. I'm used to the former. This completely messes with my workflow.
 
It's a pretty underwhelming release for people who aren't deeply embedded into Apple's ecosystem.

- I don't use Safari, so that rules out PiP and Apple Pay
- I'm not a fan of voice-control, so that rules out Siri
- I don't pay for iCloud storage, so that rules out the storage reduction features, and benefit of Photos (I use Google Photos).
- I don't have an Apple Watch, so that rules out remote unlocking.

What else is there that's new?

It's running without issues though, so I guess that's something :)
 
Adam Scott Aukerman said:
It's a pretty underwhelming release for people who aren't deeply embedded into Apple's ecosystem.

- I don't use Safari, so that rules out PiP and Apple Pay
- I'm not a fan of voice-control, so that rules out Siri
- I don't pay for iCloud storage, so that rules out the storage reduction features, and benefit of Photos (I use Google Photos).
- I don't have an Apple Watch, so that rules out remote unlocking.

What else is there that's new?

It's running without issues though, so I guess that's something :)
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I'm in the same boat except for the photos bit. I'm going to hold off for a while until I feel I need to update. Apple's QA has been poor of late and so I try not to to install x.0 releases anymore unless there's something I really, really want.
 
watch unlock doesn't work when you manually locked your mac? (not closed lid, or auto lock after a time period)

that pretty much defeats the purpose of the feature entirely for me
 
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Seriously, I wonder if it's worth enduring the incredibly slow App Store download speeds to install this.
 
Siri, PiP and tabs are all great additions imo, but this definitely isn't the most exciting update ever. I understand that not every OS update can bring huge changes, but this combined with the lack of Mac hardware news does make me a little anxious. Hopefully there's an event in October.
 
erpg said:
Seriously, I wonder if it's worth enduring the incredibly slow App Store download speeds to install this.
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I tried installing this 3 different times today, letting it sit for over an hour each time and it STILL hasn't downloaded.
 
Almost nothing is usable to me.

I'm not paying for iCloud because why would anyone use that over the myriad of other better cloud storage providers? Syncing is kinda worthless then and if I really needed space I'd buy external storage.

Don't have an Apple Watch, probably won't be getting one in the foreseeable future. So won't use unlock. Furthermore I hear it's really slow, like you can type a password faster. Still waiting on TouchID Macbooks.

Apple Pay in Safari. Seriously? We have standard Web Payments rolling out into other browsers and Apple invents some stupid proprietary web API for Apple Pay (I thought we were done with proprietary browser bullshit?). This is incredibly offensive as a developer. Fuck Safari.

Universal Copy/Paste. Hell yeah, there's a feature I can get behind.

Memories in Photos from what I've read is like Google Photos but worse. Not that I do a huge amount of organizing my photos anyway, and certainly I don't store all of them locally for indexing.

Siri. Sure why not? Not especially useful if iOS is any indication but, hey, they're trying. Maybe I will need to look up a document with a verbal search one day, who knows?

Tabs. Yup. Tab all the things. macOS window management is terrible and even Windows needs this.

PiP. Not sure why this is needed if you have decent window management but okay, whatever.
 
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