Yekshemesh
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If there's any movie that deserves a 3 hour director's cut, it's this one. Do not disappoint Bluray release...
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Mad Max: Fury Road |OT| What a Lovely Day | RT: 98% | Metacritic: 89
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
That would fuck the pacing to death. Hell no.
It's not happening anyway. The blu-ray special features are your basic everyday EPK fluff. No special cuts.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I never watch special features, but after reading a few interviews with George Miller/etc. I really want some deep dives into the universe's "lore." The depth -- from characters to vehicle/set design -- is insane.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Yekshemesh
Member
That's a fair point. I can see how a 3 hour cut would fuck up the pacing. I just want more Mad Max!!!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yekshemesh
Member
find this button on your remote:
Become friendly with it.
I know I will.
Man, are you guys pumped for the Mad Max game after this movie? If the vehicular combat is anything like the movie.... LORD HAVE MERCY!!!
PhoncipleBone
Banned
While I love the additional scenes in the special edition of Aliens, I agree that the theatrical cut is a better experience. It is tighter and more focused. It is just a relentless and ruthless machine of a film.
The QBComics
Member
Raiders of the Lost Ark is my all time favorite film ever, and the fact that Fury Road even comes close to matching it's action for me is a near-impossible feat that Miller somehow accomplishes.
1. Raiders
2. Die Hard
3. Fury Road
Honestly can't remember the last time an action film engaged me on nearly every level, from a filmic sense.
1. Raiders
2. Die Hard
3. Fury Road
Honestly can't remember the last time an action film engaged me on nearly every level, from a filmic sense.
I dont think Mad Max FR will hold up in the small screen as well as T2. I need to rewatch it again once the blu ray comes out but as of now my first impression is T2 has the better villain, more iconic set pieces and the better ending.
It is not particularly deep but it gets the job done.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I was about to say it felt fan-made, but then I remember we got some pretty great fan trailers.
This is just mediocre.
SpaceHorror
Member
I like your list more. I could swap star ship troopers with Allens and feel the same.
Scorpion Soldier
Member
Not every movie is better when longer.
I appreciate them doing something different at least.
Trailer has more dialogue than the film it's advertising. Thinking fan made.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
MEDIOCRE
And it is on the WB Online page?
It looks like opening credits to some cheep TV show.
Anton Sugar
Member
My man.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Yeah the narration makes it sound like a 90s sci-fi show like Highlander or Sliders. I watched those and I would watch this
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Guys, I need The Wasteland. I need to know that The Wasteland will happen. And that Miller will direct it.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
It's being held hostage until you watch die hard.
Kidding! I also needs The wasteland! And I need George Miller to direct it!!!
Valhalla!!!!!
Valhalla!!!!!
Jack Remington
Banned
Comparing T2 to Mad Max:
Both are pretty great for the vast majority of their run-time. T2 has a few really weak scenes with John Connor, mainly due to the limitations of the child actor. Mad Max has a really weak section when they find the grandma warriors.
T2's advantage is that it's weak section comes in the middle, and the final hour or so is god-tier.
Mad Max's weak section comes at the very end of the second act, and thus feels like more of a downer.
T2 as a whole is better than Mad Max, but only slightly.
Both are pretty great for the vast majority of their run-time. T2 has a few really weak scenes with John Connor, mainly due to the limitations of the child actor. Mad Max has a really weak section when they find the grandma warriors.
T2's advantage is that it's weak section comes in the middle, and the final hour or so is god-tier.
Mad Max's weak section comes at the very end of the second act, and thus feels like more of a downer.
T2 as a whole is better than Mad Max, but only slightly.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Fury Road is better than T2. I agree with Bobby's points. Heck T2 isn't even the best Terminator movie
Jack Remington
Banned
Furiosa is in no way, shape or form a better character than Sarah Connor, especially when you consider Sarah's growth from the beginning of T1 all the way through the end of T2.
No one slides out of character in T2.
John Connor as written is a great character. They just didn't cast an actor who could really deliver the lines that were written in the script.
T2 is widely considered the greatest action film of all time. To beat it, Mad Max has to be the greatest action film of all time. I'm not sure it is. It's top 5, but not #1.
No one slides out of character in T2.
John Connor as written is a great character. They just didn't cast an actor who could really deliver the lines that were written in the script.
T2 is widely considered the greatest action film of all time. To beat it, Mad Max has to be the greatest action film of all time. I'm not sure it is. It's top 5, but not #1.
Discotheque
Banned
i'm with jack remington on this one. i liked furiosa's performance more though but i think sarah connor's transformation from 1 to 2 was fantastic. and honestly i had no problems with jon on a rewatch. he was the embodiment of 90s youth to me.
i'd put t2 and raiders over fury road. but i'd put fury road over the matrix. and die hard and aliens and predator are somewhere in this list.
i'd put t2 and raiders over fury road. but i'd put fury road over the matrix. and die hard and aliens and predator are somewhere in this list.
Jack Remington
Banned
T2
Raiders
Die Hard
Fury Road
T1
Predator
Raiders
Die Hard
Fury Road
T1
Predator
Moff
Member
I prefer T2, but that's because I think a movie needs room to breathe. fury road does not have enough room to breathe for my personal taste, it's almost a 100% action fest. but that's a completely personal preference, those few top action films are so much ahead of the rest that I won't complain if any of them are #1 for someone.
and for the women:
vasquez < furiosa < ripley < sarah connor
and for the women:
vasquez < furiosa < ripley < sarah connor
real_slime
Banned
I liked the finding the grannies section of Mad Max. It's slow and quiet, that doesn't mean it's automatically bad. I don't think the quiet section of T2 is bad, either.
Jack Remington
Banned
The T-1000 is a lot better than Immortan Joe, as cool as he was. Robert Patrick's T-1000 performance was a performance for the ages.
Nothing can top some of the subtle shots he's in.
"Call to him. I know this hurts." Mad Max has nothing on those scenes.
I really can't believe this is really a debate. Fury Road is better than Terminator 2. Lord help me.
Robert Patrick put in a great performance for sure but the T-1000 isn't subtle in itself, nor does it have any depth. Immortan Joe has an entire movie's worth of untold story just from what little we saw in Fury Road. A much more interesting bad-guy than the unstoppable killing machine with no other purpose but to drive the plot forward that was T-1000.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Well the T-1000 is literally a machine... I thought Patrick did a great job playing an impassive, ruthless killing machine. He looked 0% human.
Perfection from a performance standpoint for sure and the T-1000 did it's job as an analog for the ruthless and inexorable advance of technology but as a bad guy it wasn't as intriguing as Immortan Joe. That's not Robert Patrick's fault or even James Cameron's fault though, just the nature of the character that was written.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Solid list though I would replace T1 with Aliens.
How are you guys leaving out the Matrix though?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I still feel its one of the best action movies of all time and the stunt work in a lot of areas holds up remarkably well. Story is fantastic too.
Stumbling into old clips of Mad Max on Youtube, I'm realizing how long it's been since I saw it. I just noticed that in Toecutter's (Mad Max spoilerz)
I found that amusing given that's the last thing Immortan does at Furiosa before she (Fury Road spoilerz)
especially given they are played by the same actor.
death scene, the last sound he makes is a hiss at Max.
rips his face off,
are you sure you watched the same movie?
seriously, everyone that says max isnt in the movie much, were you fucking watching?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Furiosa is a better character, with a better actress giving a better performance. Sure, maybe Sarah becomes a more interesting character if you take a completely different (and better) movie into account, but that doesn't really seem fair. T2 is set up to be standalone (really, it is. It had to be - Terminator wasn't a huge success), and so Sarah is set up to be judged standalone. And based on the character as presented in that film, and the way Hamilton portrayed her - Theron's Furiosa is a better, more interesting, more compelling character.
Sarah in T2 barely makes the top 5 Cameron heroines list. And even if I did take into account the character from T1 - I still pick Furiosa.
John Connor is not a great character, and that grating, annoying performance Furlong put in sure as shit didn't help. Both John, Sarah, AND the T-800 slide in and out of character as needed to satisfy either plot or pander-moments. It doesn't happen too frequently, but it's sure as hell noticeable when it does. And I don't think T2 is widely considered the best action film ever, that usually goes to either Die Hard or Raiders.
Why's that?
Discotheque
Banned
Barely makes top 5 cameron heroines? Lmao I want to see this list. Only one who gives her a run for the money is Ripley
Surely you don't think the abyss, avatar or true lies have better female characters than Connor?
I do think Charlize gave a better performance though but then it's pretty apparent cameron works with some scust-tier actors on the regular. Yet he still manages to make pretty great movies with them (I'm gonna say it right now, there were like 6 other actors at that time who would be way better at kyle reese than beihn was). hamilton was quite good in T2 though.
Surely you don't think the abyss, avatar or true lies have better female characters than Connor?
I do think Charlize gave a better performance though but then it's pretty apparent cameron works with some scust-tier actors on the regular. Yet he still manages to make pretty great movies with them (I'm gonna say it right now, there were like 6 other actors at that time who would be way better at kyle reese than beihn was). hamilton was quite good in T2 though.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
To be fair, maybe they are expecting something more formulaic in terms of protagonists' roles in movies. As in, protags should get the most lines and should get to kill the main baddie and should be the final solution in every fights that happen, etc.
:x
I, for one, am glad that Fury Road does not fall into those tropes, instead it is a surprisingly refreshing take on the action genre, but well..... nothing is ever going to appeal to everyone equally.
RustyNails
Member
The Matrix is the best action movie ever in my opinion. I can't fault anything in it. The entire Morpheus rescue segment is sublime.