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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Bob Benson is a pimp or gigolo on the side.

And I mean that literally. I think he's getting a cut of Manolo's money, which might explain why Manolo was so hesitant to take any extra from Pete.
 
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Fjordson

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Just watched the last episode on DVR. I'm loving this season. Sally finding out about Don was rough. That whole scene was rough. Especially Sylvia's reaction. I know I shouldn't be surprised by Don fucking up his marriage at this point, but I wasn't expecting that. It seemed like they were through.

And Bob Benson is up to some shit man. We know so little about him, but damn is he fascinating. Still no clue what is up with him.

I just wish we were getting more Betty and Henry. But other than that, great season.
 
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maharg

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Fjordson said:
Just watched the last episode on DVR. I'm loving this season. Sally finding out about Don was rough. That whole scene was rough. Especially Sylvia's reaction. I know I shouldn't be surprised by Don fucking up his marriage at this point, but I wasn't expecting that. It seemed like they were through.
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What they *had* is through. This is something else. It's transactional now. Don paid her, effectively.
 
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hokey1

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I just re-watched Don's hippy trip or near death hallucination sequence. They never said Megan is pregnant. Don asks very directly what do you think it is? Megan replies, "A second chance" while clutching her belly. Could be a stab wound or gunshot wound.(I don't think it involves Pete's gun) Megan also says "I live here". Could she be referring to the afterlife? Does second chance mean for Don a chance to start his life again.

Or am I just reading a little to much into it?
 
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Wool

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Just caught the episode last night. That knee touch!


Also, I think Ted is only one viewing the SCDP as rivals. Everyone else seems to get along fine, including Don. Don just doesn't that much about work, and Ted thinks he does.
 
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CrankyJay

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Maybe Peter is gay and he doesn't realize it. It might explain why he has everything Don has (besides his reputation) but is still unhappy.
 
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jtb

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CrankyJay said:
Maybe Peter is gay and he doesn't realize it. It might explain why he has everything Don has (besides his reputation) but is still unhappy.
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I don't really buy this. Why do we need an explanation for everyone having everything they want and still being unhappy when it's clearly one of the main themes in the show? Don has everything, and he's perpetually unhappy. Peggy finally got what she wanted, and she's unhappy, etc. Pete being gay (or, more likely, bi), while tenuously plausible, would just be a giant fuck you to the audience in the same way the brothel flashbacks were.
 
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CrankyJay

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jtb said:
I don't really buy this. Why do we need an explanation for everyone having everything they want and still being unhappy when it's clearly one of the main themes in the show? Don has everything, and he's perpetually unhappy. Peggy finally got what she wanted, and she's unhappy, etc. Pete being gay (or, more likely, bi), while tenuously plausible, would just be a giant fuck you to the audience in the same way the brothel flashbacks were.
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Just thinking out loud, sorry. lol
 
Johnny Cage In The Shower

Johnny Cage In The Shower

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Loved this last Ep. There were just too many brilliantly directed and acted scenes, especial loved that meeting with the GM and Chevy guys, Don killing the mood and the GM's Execs bummed out mood was so well done!

Also loved how (at least three times) there were the Hitchcockian film making technique where, as an audience members, we're in on some info with one of the characters where the other character is misguided or not clued in.

First one I could think of when Peggy is talking to Pete's Mom, she tells Peggy about the son she had with Pete, Peggy's eyes light up, but soon we find out that she thinks Peggy is Trudy.

Second is Don's conversation with Sylvia. She thinks Don's doing the favor (of taking her son off the draft list) for her, but is he really doing this for her? Or he has more deep rooted personal motivations for doing this?

Third it's more of an immediate one, but...Sally telling her father that he makes her sick...Meagan "What's gotten into her." ..Sally's friend "Oh she really liked the Arnie's and Sylvia's son"

Brilliant episode, the way Bob's and Pete's "knee" scene was shot, how it starts off a bit comfortable, medium wide shots and eventually, its a big close up of Bob (dominant) making Pete feel claustrophobic and uncomfortable.

This Ep was soo good I had to pause it half way and get up and fix me a stiff drink, to get more into it.
 
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NathanMcMahon

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Jinger said:
I think Pete has admirable qualities. Sure he bitches and moans every time he stubs his toe but that doesn't stop him from pulling the cart all the same. The dude carried SCDP on his back during some awful lean times and wasn't ever really acknowledged for it. Sure you could say he was just doing his job, what he's paid to do, et cetera, but he went above and beyond the call of duty when it came time to pull through for the firm.

Then you delve into his personal life, his politics, and the demeanor cracks and you see a person who actually cares about things. I don't mean things like a nice house, but things like social justice. He's like the Anti-Don. He doesn't mope and get drunk to forget his troubles, he bitches and moans while solving his problems. I think his actions get lost in the cacophony of his epic bitch fits. If we're to judge a man by his actions, then Pete Campbell is a pretty solid guy, all things considered. I wouldn't be surprised of Two Cups recognized that.

Now I'm sure someone wants to bring up his cheating on Trudy, and here is where the dark side of Pete comes into play. The show has never hid the fact that he's terribly insecure about his personality, his looks, his position. He's been growing distant from everybody in his life because he probably feels like they take him for granted. Or probably worse, they see him for who he is - an insecure man who is begging for approval from anybody. It'd make sense, I think, to seek validation outside of his circle of friends and family in order to feel like he's worth something. I think that's what the romance fantasy with the girl at the driving school was about. He saw an opportunity to make a positive impression and leave someone with the idea that Pete Campbell is a man's man. He's a reliable man. He's essentially a Don Draper, or at least, the idea of Don Draper as Dick Whitman presents him to the world. When the girl subtly rejects him at the driving school, that fantasy of being a Don Draper type is ultimately shattered. It leaves him bitter and looking to seek his validation elsewhere.

That's what I think of Pete Campbell, anyhow. He's got his issues no different than anyone else, but when pushes comes to shove he's someone you can depend on.

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I think my favourite scene from this week's episode was Pete and Peggy drunk at dinner. Pete let his guard down and he was a very sociable, funny, and charming guy. I think the worst thing about Pete is that he's so often tightly wound to hide his insecurity that he can't see that the "real Pete Campbell" is actually a cool dude to be around.
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The fact that Pete probably raped or at the very least coerced the Au Pair leaves him as irredeemable to me. I know that scene can be interpreted in different ways so that can change ones view but it's hard to get past that.

Also, has anyone else noticed the theme of Don walking through doors in long corridors this season? Was it present before.
 
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War Peaceman

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Johnny Cage In The Shower said:
Loved this last Ep. There were just too many brilliantly directed and acted scenes, especial loved that meeting with the GM and Chevy guys, Don killing the mood and the GM's Execs bummed out mood was so well done!

Also loved how (at least three times) there were the Hitchcockian film making technique where, as an audience members, we're in on some info with one of the characters where the other character is misguided or not clued in.
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That is called dramatic irony; a very old technique (Shakespeare features it a lot).


Second is Don's conversation with Sylvia. She thinks Don's doing the favor (of taking her son off the draft list) for her, but is he really doing this for her? Or he has more deep rooted personal motivations for doing this?
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I don't think Don did it for her at all - he seemed surprised when she got talking on the phone. I think he did it in good faith for his friend Dr. Rosen. Maybe I am not cynical enough though!


Also did anyone else notice Henry's set joke? About how they are only ever in one room of their giant mansion.
 
Alienware

Alienware

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I am in serious need of a gif depicting THIS face, from the trailer for episode 6.12.

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AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
vcassano1 said:
I don't think Don did it for her at all - he seemed surprised when she got talking on the phone. I think he did it in good faith for his friend Dr. Rosen. Maybe I am not cynical enough though!
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He did it for Arnold out of sheer guilt of fucking his wife.
 
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Cornballer

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FatboyRoberts said:
Is that a spoiler, though? It's debunking an internet theory. It doesn't actually say what DOES happen in the show. Only what doesn't.
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It's a negative spoiler or something? Not quite sure how to phrase it, but I figure people want a heads up and I tend to err on the side of caution.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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I understand why you did it, (and it's considerate) I'm just more curious as to how the "rules" of this work when the thing being revealed is actually a thing that DOESN'T happen.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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kirblar said:
Spec based on the spoiler:
Guessing the "death" imagery is actually aimed at Don/Megan's relationship.
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I think that's inevitable. Can't believe there are only TWO left this season. I have a feeling this sunday will be a big one and the finale will be a fallout of sorts for whatever happens.
 
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Dany

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I have no interest in whether or not don or Megan stay together or not. It's one of the least interesting facet of of the show.
 
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Divius

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BannedEpisode said:
I hope so. Single Don is the only version of him that tries to get stuff done even if he does it in a constant state of malaise while eating Dinty-More and drinking bud.
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Well yeah I think/hope/expect them to break up, but I hope that's not what all the death imagery has been working towards.
 
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