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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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maharg

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The guy who plays Benson would be fantastic to play Morden if Babylon 5 is ever remade.

I don't really subscribe to any grand conspiracy theory of Benson, but government spy could still fit from that scene. He could be sniffing out the possibility a partner at the firm is gay and thus, at the time, considered a blackmail risk.
 
Bob's all about the social climbing. He's attempting the "sleep with a partner" maneuver.

No way that's his angle. He's obviously a smart, resourceful guy. He has to realize that coming onto a male co-worker is more likely to result in career suicide than any sort of advancement. The only conclusion I can reach is that either he genuinely has affection for Pete or, as others have mentioned, he has an agenda that involves sniffing out dirty laundry in the firm.
 

RangersFan

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oooh just watched, great episode. Benson gay, and sally :( that was heartbreaking. Don ruin's every female in his life.

Is Benson Mad Men's gateway to the Stonewall Riots which is around that time?
 

pigeon

Banned
Was is a callback? I just assumed she got a cat because of the mouse (or was it a rat?)

She did, but it's also a reference to a line of her mother's in season 5. Peggy asks her "Do you want me to be alone all my life?" Her mom says, "You know what your aunt used to say. If you're lonely, get a cat." After cycling through all the men in her life, Peggy did just that.
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Maybe I am misreading it but Ted was massively paranoid in this episode. He's always been egotistical but he was seeing everything as a plot against him. He really is one of the biggest obstacle to partner cohesion - Don was utterly bemused by Ted's demands. It seemed a little extreme compared to how he was in previous episodes?
 
I'm happy that Bob is gay but ...

Not like this ... not Pete ... What is he thinking? "He just called guys like me a degenerate, I think I'll go for it!" ... What are you doing, stop!

I don't think so, but as I said a couple of pages ago, I think Pete was actually weirdly flattered by it.

While also being creeped out, obviously.

Are his new lifetime lows and sense of experimentation in a previous episode a sign of things to come? It would probably be the end of Bob though.
 
I think Bob is gay, but definitely not attracted to Pete. He's just using him. Notice how quickly he changes his attitudes in that conversation. And then when he gets rejected, he just stands up, and walks away unflinchingly. He's playing him.

I want Bob to seduce Ken though
 

DominoKid

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i hope Bob isn't gay, if only because that'd be the least interesting turn the Bob Benson mystery could take IMO. it's just an "oh that's it? psssh." moment for me. i want to believe he was just fucking w/ Pete though.
 
Are his new lifetime lows and sense of experimentation in a previous episode a sign of things to come? It would probably be the end of Bob though.

I don't think Pete's going to go that far, but I thought his reaction was fascinating.

Old School Pete would have thrown Bob's ass out in a second. But now, with Pete's family life in shambles and his sense of worth at his job crumbling, the thought that anyone would give a shit about his wellbeing was probably shocking to him - in a number of different ways.
 

Dany

Banned
I fee like Bob was simply showing Pete that love is more than a man loving a woman. I don't think he was coming onto him.
 

giga

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Sally catching Don made me feel so bad for that child. How terribly devastating to realize both your parents are genuinely horrible people.
 
I thought the doorman would have told her that Don was already upstairs instead of giving her the keys. He must have known that since its impossible to get into the building without walking him.

Then I remember the shift changing between the two doormen. They thought of everything.

Fantastic episode that.
 
:( I just don't know what he sees in Pete.

Just look at this hairline!!!

I think Pete has admirable qualities. Sure he bitches and moans every time he stubs his toe but that doesn't stop him from pulling the cart all the same. The dude carried SCDP on his back during some awful lean times and wasn't ever really acknowledged for it. Sure you could say he was just doing his job, what he's paid to do, et cetera, but he went above and beyond the call of duty when it came time to pull through for the firm.

Then you delve into his personal life, his politics, and the demeanor cracks and you see a person who actually cares about things. I don't mean things like a nice house, but things like social justice. He's like the Anti-Don. He doesn't mope and get drunk to forget his troubles, he bitches and moans while solving his problems. I think his actions get lost in the cacophony of his epic bitch fits. If we're to judge a man by his actions, then Pete Campbell is a pretty solid guy, all things considered. I wouldn't be surprised of Two Cups recognized that.

Now I'm sure someone wants to bring up his cheating on Trudy, and here is where the dark side of Pete comes into play. The show has never hid the fact that he's terribly insecure about his personality, his looks, his position. He's been growing distant from everybody in his life because he probably feels like they take him for granted. Or probably worse, they see him for who he is - an insecure man who is begging for approval from anybody. It'd make sense, I think, to seek validation outside of his circle of friends and family in order to feel like he's worth something. I think that's what the romance fantasy with the girl at the driving school was about. He saw an opportunity to make a positive impression and leave someone with the idea that Pete Campbell is a man's man. He's a reliable man. He's essentially a Don Draper, or at least, the idea of Don Draper as Dick Whitman presents him to the world. When the girl subtly rejects him at the driving school, that fantasy of being a Don Draper type is ultimately shattered. It leaves him bitter and looking to seek his validation elsewhere.

That's what I think of Pete Campbell, anyhow. He's got his issues no different than anyone else, but when pushes comes to shove he's someone you can depend on.

EDIT to add:
I think my favourite scene from this week's episode was Pete and Peggy drunk at dinner. Pete let his guard down and he was a very sociable, funny, and charming guy. I think the worst thing about Pete is that he's so often tightly wound to hide his insecurity that he can't see that the "real Pete Campbell" is actually a cool dude to be around.
 

CrunchyB

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Microsoft should get Don Draper to do E3 tomorrow.

"We wanted to comfort gamers."

Ok, I laughed :)

EDIT to add:
I think my favourite scene from this week's episode was Pete and Peggy drunk at dinner. Pete let his guard down and he was a very sociable, funny, and charming guy. I think the worst thing about Pete is that he's so often tightly wound to hide his insecurity that he can't see that the "real Pete Campbell" is actually a cool dude to be around.

Oh, Pete. He's such a mess, but I'm getting really fond of him.

I'm also really intrigued by Bob. I was wondering where they were going with his character. For a while it seemed like he was simply licking the boots of everyone in power, but he always seemed so genuinely nice. Now we know, it's because he *is* a genuinely nice guy. And also gay. This can only end in disaster.

If Pete throws him under the bus I'm going to scream at the TV.
 
finally caught up on the last 2 episodes. "favors" was phenomenal.

it seems like the non-stop drinking and smoking of the early 60s Sterling Cooper guys is catching up to them... neither Ted or Jim Cutler indulge in either, really. kinda freaked out as to where this is all leading...
 

maharg

idspispopd
EDIT to add:
I think my favourite scene from this week's episode was Pete and Peggy drunk at dinner. Pete let his guard down and he was a very sociable, funny, and charming guy. I think the worst thing about Pete is that he's so often tightly wound to hide his insecurity that he can't see that the "real Pete Campbell" is actually a cool dude to be around.

It was both nice and really fucking weird to see Pete let his guard down like that. I can't even remember the last time that happened.
 

jtb

Banned
finally caught this week's episode. Good ep.

Bob's an interesting character; maybe he's interesting because we don't know much about him yet (as opposed to a side character like Ginsberg who we know a lot about and is still pretty dull) but what we're learning is pretty compelling so far. I'm personally not convinced that the scene proves he's gay or, anything that we didn't know already, really. My only worry is that it's really a bit cliché if he is gay with regards to his relationship with Joan—yes, beat us over the head with that 60s (and pre-60s) misogyny, Weiner!
 

xenist

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Poor Sally. You did not deserve such a piece of shit for a father. I'm surprised she didn't throw a plate at Don's head when he getting applauded by Rosen and Megan for fucking them over. I just hope she doesn't take it out on herself instead of Don. But given Don's vampiric abilities of sucking any pride and joy from the women in his life there isn't much of chance for that.
 

Divius

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Lane Pryce, Season 5
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Ted Chaough, Season 6

[via /r/madmen]
 
For this last episode, what rocked me the hardest, is how even when the show is kind of uneventful and on the slow side, it's still at its very finest. No matter what's going on, this show just keep getting better and better.
 

xenist

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Sally catching Don made me feel so bad for that child. How terribly devastating to realize both your parents are genuinely horrible people.

What? Betty is fucking Gandhi compared to Don. Don't forget that he has been practicing his soul draining superpowers on her forever.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
RIP Ted

"God can turn off the lights at any moment." ~ Ted's wife

From Reddit:

Ted crashes his plane into the office, causing Pete to shoot himself in the face by accident. Megan just happened to show up a few minutes before, and the Manson family transports back in time to the exact moment of the crash and kill her. Roger is on LSD and thinks the plane is a giraffe, and runs towards it.
Don looks at the plane, calls Sylvia, and says "I need you".
 
The guy who plays Benson would be fantastic to play Morden if Babylon 5 is ever remade.

I don't really subscribe to any grand conspiracy theory of Benson, but government spy could still fit from that scene. He could be sniffing out the possibility a partner at the firm is gay and thus, at the time, considered a blackmail risk.

Holy fuck. After the first couple of episodes this season I told my friend that Benson reminded me of Morden.

So true.
 
Fantastic Mad Style. After a couple of weeks of wondering if they'd lost the thread or were repeating themselves, this edition was really compelling.

And a privileged east coast girl in the late 1960s can find herself in danger of winding up just like the screwed-up, poverty-stricken Appalachian son-of-a-whore who’s failing to raise her, because sometimes you just can’t get away from your family history.

Worth it for this quote alone, if nothing else.
 

Kaladin

Member
That's the first time I've watched those Next On Mad Men things.....it seems like those are as vague and misleading as the episode descriptions are.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Microsoft should get Don Draper to do E3 tomorrow.

"We wanted to comfort gamers."
I was reading some of the discussions after catching up with the previous two episodes and this post made me laugh out loud. Kudos.
 

Sapiens

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As usual Tom & Lorenzo's style analysis is the best way to follow up with the episode. Their attention to detail (getting Bob Benson right a few weeks ago) proves it.
 
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