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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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Nameless said:
I've been rewatching for the first time in a good three years and even though I knew it was coming Don spurning Faye pissed me off more than it did originally. I understand being charmed by Megan's French and bubbly-artsy personality. I even get becoming intrigued by the all the serendipitous occurrences that seemed to bind the two together, but god damn it you don't turn your back on perfection if you're lucky enough to attain it.

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Don't worry, Don is an awful person and would have done the same to Faye as he did to any other woman he was with. She should have never been with him in the first place. Watching season 4 again made everything sting a little more. Seeing Faye be so awesome and knowing Don is going to pick random secretary #14 is infuriating. At least Peggy is still great :(
 
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Goddamn everyone looks awful except Don, Roger and Cutler. Cosgrove is passable, I suppose. But the women and the younger men, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
 
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Altazor

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a bunch of stray observations:

-All hail Stan Rizzo and his glorious beard of manliness.
-While I was pretty pissed about Don's decision to dump Faye for Megan, in the end I'm glad - Don's a mess of a human being, I'm pretty sure he would've mentaly/emotionally destroyed Faye in a matter of months. She deserves better. Same case with Rachel Menken.
-Sally really really looks like her mother's child. It's eerie.
and Kiernan's a better actress than January, so that's also a bit eerie to me.
-Harry looks like a mix of The Beach Boys and The Monkees put through an "insufferable douchebag" filter.
-Ken Cosgrove looks old-style, but we all know he's awesome.
-LOL @ Pete's receding hairline. He's definitely stuck in an awkward limbo between "too young to be accepted in that old-timer's golden club" and "get the hell out of my lawn, you young whippersnapper".
-Megan looks straight out of that era. Wow.

EDIT: Is it me or Christina Hendricks looks a bit thinner than in the previous 2 seasons? She looks damn good in those promotional pics.
 
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Hours Left said:
Everyone is too good for Don. He's trash.
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Insignificant aside: I have this friend... we're unable to agree regarding Don. She somehow always finds an excuse to tolerate his assholish behaviour. She's completely smitten by Don, willing to put on with his excessive drinking, his philandering and his professional (lack of) attitude.

I know, if it weren't about a fictional character it would be worrying. It's almost as if I was describing an abusive relationship... but I'm not. She's just crazy about Don Draper. And I... well, he does look cool and handsome (and Jon Hamm's one hell of an actor) but he's a terrible human being.
 
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Altazor said:
Insignificant aside: I have this friend... we're unable to agree regarding Don. She somehow always finds an excuse to tolerate his assholish behaviour. She's completely smitten by Don, willing to put on with his excessive drinking, his philandering and his professional (lack of) attitude.

I know, if it weren't about a fictional character it would be worrying. It's almost as if I was describing an abusive relationship... but I'm not. She's just crazy about Don Draper. And I... well, he does look cool and handsome (and Jon Hamm's one hell of an actor) but he's a terrible human being.
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Jon Hamm is lovely.

Don Draper is abhorrent.
 
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metalslimer

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I can't decide if I want Don to get some redemption or go out terribly, I guess either as long as it's written well, but it's definitely easier to sympathize with Don than with many other protagonists of recent shows.
 
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Don actually wants to be a good person. It basically comes to him in a pipe dream, but there's a distant moral core that makes him sympathetic and pretty depressing. He's making steps in the right direction (again) should just be like a celibate teetotaler or something idk.
 
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Hours Left said:
Jon Hamm is lovely.

Don Draper is abhorrent.
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Abhorrent is a strong word. Unless you've got extraordinarily strong feelings about cheaters the character isn't that bad. He's no saint but he's not going around deriving pleasure for others' suffering or disregarding the feelings of his children. He's weak and suffers from poor impulse control. Hardly makes him a devil.
 
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shadyspace said:
Abhorrent is a strong word. Unless you've got extraordinarily strong feelings about cheaters the character isn't that bad. He's no saint but he's not going around deriving pleasure for others' suffering or disregarding the feelings of his children. He's weak and suffers from poor impulse control. Hardly makes him a devil.
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He's definitely disregarded the feelings of his children numerous times on the show. He doesn't get pleasure from others' suffering, but he's not above screwing others to get ahead himself.
 
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metalslimer

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The scene last season where he fucks with Peggy and Ted was pretty sadistic. He definitely seems to have the mentality that if he can't be happy that no one can.
 
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Hours Left

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shadyspace said:
Abhorrent is a strong word. Unless you've got extraordinarily strong feelings about cheaters the character isn't that bad. He's no saint but he's not going around deriving pleasure for others' suffering or disregarding the feelings of his children. He's weak and suffers from poor impulse control. Hardly makes him a devil.
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I disagree with both those statements. He treats people like crap and has an eternal martyr complex.

Selfish doesn't begin to describe him.

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Don does rotten things, but he's not a rotten person at his core. Calling him "abhorrent" or "trash" is very black/white thinking.
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Nah, he's pretty awful. Just because he has a creative mind, doesn't mean he's not a bad person. He is rotten to the core IMO.

He only helps people when it suits his own means, as soon as it impacts him negatively, he throws them under the bus.
 
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shadyspace

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Bladenic said:
He's definitely disregarded the feelings of his children numerous times on the show. He doesn't get pleasure from others' suffering, but he's not above screwing others to get ahead himself.
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Knowing what my parents and their siblings had to go through as what they've always portrayed to me as standard parenting operating procedure of the 1960s, Don is ahead of the pack just by virtue of refusing to hit his kids. And to your second point, who is?
 
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Altazor

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The fact that I find him a terrible human being doesn't mean I think he is unable of doing good deeds or that he's beyond redemption. What he did by the end of S6 is a step in the right direction - we can only wait to see if it's already too late for him.
 
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Bladenic

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shadyspace said:
Knowing what my parents and their siblings had to go through as what they've always portrayed to me as standard parenting operating procedure of the 1960s, Don is ahead of the pack just by virtue of refusing to hit his kids. And to your second point, who is?
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Plenty of people.
 
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