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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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Cornballer

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Content Round Up - Episode 3 - "The Collaborators"

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Reviews:

Videos:
- Promo for next week's episode (youtube vid, please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Inside Episode 603 Mad Men: Collaborators (youtube vid)
- Janie Bryant on Costumes in Episode 603: Inside Mad Men (youtube vid)
- Mad Men's Alison Brie is Awesome (Speakeasy) (wide-ranging interview with some Mad Men content, youtube)
- Alison Brie Imitates Popular Internet Memes (youtube, totally unrelated to MM)​

Other:
- AMC Q&A: Jon Hamm
- Esquire interview & photos w/ Alison Brie
- North Van actor mum over Mad Men role
- NY Mag: Mad Men Is the Most Anti-Pregnancy Show Ever
- Huffington Post: Where You Recognized Pete Campbell's Mistress Brenda (Collette Wolfe) From On 'Mad Men'
- Grantland: Mad Men Power Rankings, Episode 603: 'The Collaborators'
- NY Mag: Young Don Draper and Young Michael Bluth Are the Same Person
- Sepinwall & Fienberg with 15+ minutes of MM talk at the end of their podcast this week
- GQ: Mad Men Costume Designer Janie Bryant on Pete Campbell's New Look
- TVshowsonDVD.com notes that there are now placeholders up on Amazon for the S6 set
- THR: Why Television Turns to Downtown L.A. to Stand in for New York City
- NY Times: ‘Mad Men’ City Hall vs. Real 1967 City Hall
- Vanity Fair: Mad Men Season Six Fashion Recaps, from Hawaiian Bikinis to Late-60s Suits
- NY Mag: Check Out the Mad Men Kidz!​
 
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Dance Inferno

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pigeon said:
That's the point. He's not slipping up accidentally. He SHOULD know better. But he wants to get caught.
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Oh, you think he wants to get caught subconsciously?

That's an interesting way to look at it. I disagree personally, but I can see why you would think that.
 
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Leonsito

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Just watche Ep3... this show is amazing, fantastic episode, the restaurant dialogue within Don and Sylvia was incredible, Trudy "I will destroy you" got my dick hard, and the handshake with the Jaguar guy was so good...
 
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LuchaShaq

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StrikerObi said:
Yeah. Betty Draper didn't disappear from the show after she and Don divorced. Same will be true with Trudy, especially since she intends to keep the marriage and just hold Pete hostage in it. Trudy is a badass and I will heartily enjoy watching her crush Pete.
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I hope this means we get more Trudy.
 
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Dance Inferno

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I'm continuing with my re-watch of the past seasons and my god, season 4 episode 7 (The Suitcase) is quite possibly the best episode in the entire series. So much amazing Don/Peggy character development and emotional highs/lows, and what's surprising is that pretty much 75% of the episode is shot within Don's office. It's brilliant.
 
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Kraftwerk

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ilnadmy said:
I'm continuing with my re-watch of the past seasons and my god, season 4 episode 7 (The Suitcase) is quite possibly the best episode in the entire series. So much amazing Don/Peggy character development, and what's surprising is that pretty much 75% of the episode is shot within Don's office. It's brilliant.
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Another enlightened one. Welcome!
 
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giga

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Only thing I don't care for in this season is Linda Cardellini and her husband. Feels like just another affair so far, but I'm sure it's leading to something, as always with Mad Men.

I'm glad the flashbacks are back. Those were always interesting and revealed a lot about how it shaped Don.

More of that, Peggy, and Betty please.
 
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Leona Lewis

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giga said:
Only thing I don't care for in this season is Linda Cardellini and her husband. Feels like just another affair so far, but I'm sure it's leading to something, as always with Mad Men.
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Yeah, they need to flesh out Sylvia. Right now, she's as one-dimensional (character-wise) as any of Don's other anonymous conquests, and she's only interesting in that she's his neighbor.

She needs to be interesting in her own right, like Faye or Rachel Menken (lord, that seems like an eternity ago) for me to care about her.
 
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Altazor

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ilnadmy said:
I'm continuing with my re-watch of the past seasons and my god, season 4 episode 7 (The Suitcase) is quite possibly the best episode in the entire series. So much amazing Don/Peggy character development and emotional highs/lows, and what's surprising is that pretty much 75% of the episode is shot within Don's office. It's brilliant.
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It's absolutely one of the best things I've ever seen. Brilliant, and its emotional payload it's worth that 3 seasons buildup.
 
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SickBoy

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Best part about this episode is that it raised so many questions about Don's past that my wife might actually start catching up to the show by watching the first four seasons. She started randomly watching with me last season.

Finally, my low-information answers about the show's history have reached their desired effect.
 
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GQman2121

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giga said:
Only thing I don't care for in this season is Linda Cardellini and her husband. Feels like just another affair so far, but I'm sure it's leading to something, as always with Mad Men.

I'm glad the flashbacks are back. Those were always interesting and revealed a lot about how it shaped Don.

More of that, Peggy, and Betty please.
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Really? Because I think they've been great. The doctor seems like someone I would work with (I'm not a doctor) and Cardellini showed a bit more range in episode 3 dealing with both Megan and Don.

I do hope they come up with something new if they're going to continue to have the doctor dipping out at random times. How many surgeons are always on call? Two enough times in three episodes is enough with that move.
 
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Linius

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Leona Lewis said:
Yeah, they need to flesh out Sylvia. Right now, she's as one-dimensional (character-wise) as any of Don's other anonymous conquests, and she's only interesting in that she's his neighbor.

She needs to be interesting in her own right, like Faye or Rachel Menken (lord, that seems like an eternity ago) for me to care about her.
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Rachel Menken, loved that woman. Too bad she didn't stay around much longer. And Faye's story truly is the most sad of all. Scumbag Don :(
 
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Niraj

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ilnadmy said:
I'm continuing with my re-watch of the past seasons and my god, season 4 episode 7 (The Suitcase) is quite possibly the best episode in the entire series. So much amazing Don/Peggy character development and emotional highs/lows, and what's surprising is that pretty much 75% of the episode is shot within Don's office. It's brilliant.
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It's one of those episodes that I'll just watch again at random times and it never gets old, even without the rest of season 4 as context. It's really just perfect.
 
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Linius

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Niraj said:
It's one of those episodes that I'll just watch again at random times and it never gets old, even without the rest of season 4 as context. It's really just perfect.
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For me that's "The Wheel". That Carousel scene is something I'll never get tired of.
 
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giga

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GQman2121 said:
Really? Because I think they've been great. The doctor seems like someone I would work with (I'm not a doctor) and Cardellini showed a bit more range in episode 3 dealing with both Megan and Don.

I do hope they come up with something new if they're going to continue to have the doctor dipping out at random times. How many surgeons are always on call? Two enough times in three episodes is enough with that move.
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I'm a bit biased because I don't like it when Don cheats, but right now Sylvia isn't adding much to the story for me. It just seems like she's just another one of Don's escapades.

Her being in Don's house and comforting Megan in private was a step in the right direction though. That really put Don off guard, as I don't think any of his extramarital affairs have ever been that close to home.
 
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SmashN'Grab

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The Suitcase is great but I always had a (slight) preference for Waldorf Stories (the previous episode). Loved seeing Don on a complete bender, losing control of himself. The way he blacks out over a whole day was really well done.
 
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Empty

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i like summer man nearly as much as the suitcase. don's voiceovers are so amazing, both taken at face-value as a beautiful sense of his internal struggle after anna's death and as another manifestation of his ability to write things he can't actually do or feel himself. it also has a pretty great joan and peggy plot.
 
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BertramCooper

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cuevas said:
So did Megan miscarriage on purpose?
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Kinda/sorta, it sounds like.

It seems to be a combination of not wanting to jeopardize her career and also trying to hide her pregnancy from Don by boozing as usual in Hawaii. But it seems to be somewhat subconscious and not 100% intentional.
 
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xenist

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I'm kind of surprised that around the internet some people viewed Don's reaction to Megan's miscarriage as positive. "Whatever you want?" What kind of a reaction is that to such news? Your wife miscarried, you're not ordering take-out food. You emotional vampire.

I wouldn't go as far as claiming Don is a full on sociopath but he has tendencies. He just doesn't seem capable to relate emotionally with people. Whenever something happens he just waits until he sees how people react and then does whatever keeps him as uninvolved as possible. He just reads people well. No wonder Betty is such a mess.
 
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Linius

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I think people find his reaction postive because I guess most people expected him to just start yelling at her for not telling him about the pregnancy. I also feared the worst for her :p
 
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BertramCooper

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He reacted pretty much how I expected him to react.

Don doesn't particularly care for parenting, and he has a hard time pretending about things he doesn't care about. It was a relief, though I'm sure he probably hates himself a bit for thinking that way.
 
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Cornballer

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- Tom & Lorenzo: Mad Style: The Collaborators
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That sense of solid maturity is only enhanced in this continuation of the scene, where she’s up against her baby-faced copywriters. It’s interesting how, ever since she moved to CGC, she’s surrounded by people younger than her. You rarely saw that at SCDP. Anyway, in the interaction with her secretary, the bright colors of her suit tended to fight a bit with her secretary’s wild print and bright red. Here, it’s a bright line, demarcating the difference between herself and the colorless, mopey, child-like men who work for her.

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This outfit had one purpose in this scene: to be as declarative and bold and “fuck you” as possible. She dominates every setting and background in this. That’s no small feat when you’re dressing a character known for her bold style choices. There’s a lot about this look that reads mature, though. Joan is favoring vests and vest-like dresses this year, which attempt to mimic menswear in order to signal her role as a partner. But vests aren’t exactly flattering on a woman shaped like Joan and when you add the scarf at the neck (a very old school Joan mainstay), and the charm bracelet, and even the typical Joan up ‘do, you get the very image of the middle-aged female office worker of the period. She looks formidable and put together, but she doesn’t look 1968 stylish or youthful. Not that she should; just that there’s a very clear line separating her from Megan and Peggy.

If Joan’s still working in 1980, she could dress just like this and no one would bat an eye. In many ways, it’s standard business-wear all through the 1970s. Picture “9 to 5.” Half the background players were dressed like this.
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Much more via the link.
 
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pigeon

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BackwardsSuggestions said:
Jon Hamm is a decent director. Loved some of the shots in the episode.
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I thought he did well, although if he's running cinematography too, he needs to stop cutting so aggressively away from scenes before we get closing reaction shots, because it looks bad and doesn't fit the style. I remember the last episode he did had this same issue.
 
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Leona Lewis

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pigeon said:
I thought he did well, although if he's running cinematography too, he needs to stop cutting so aggressively away from scenes before we get closing reaction shots, because it looks bad and doesn't fit the style. I remember the last episode he did had this same issue.
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Based on an interview he did recently, he has zero control of what happens in the editing room.

His job, according to him, is just to capture the footage as beautifully as possible. Everything else is Weiner's doing.
 
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Talon

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Faye Miller all the way. She may not be as beautiful as Rachel, but she's the brightest and most put together person Don was with.
 
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pigeon said:
I thought he did well, although if he's running cinematography too, he needs to stop cutting so aggressively away from scenes before we get closing reaction shots, because it looks bad and doesn't fit the style. I remember the last episode he did had this same issue.
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I thought it was just me...

I actually laughed out loud a couple of times due to some of the extremely abrupt edits.
For a while, I thought it was being executed in humor.

That said, I really did enjoy the episode and the cuts worked awesomely for the dinner scene.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Talon said:
Faye Miller all the way. She may not be as beautiful as Rachel, but she's the brightest and most put together person Don was with.
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Brightest maybe, but Rachel struck me as the most down-to-earth and had the strongest sense of self. Probably why she didn't stick around.
 
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