tringworldso
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What did Mark Wahlburg do btw?
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Mad Men star Jon Hamm was charged with hazing in college days (1990)
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SliceSabre
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"Man he did something a bit shitty to someone over 20 years ago I should look down upon him!"
Not saying what he did was ok mind you but holy fuck people change over the course of 20 something years.
Not saying what he did was ok mind you but holy fuck people change over the course of 20 something years.
styl3s
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I find it more amusing that you think someone in their late teens and even early 20's can't be immature and can't change.
I did some real dumb shit in my late teens and early 20s and i am 110% different then i was back thing because as you grow you mature. Just because you are considered an adult doesn't make you a fully grown mature adult so stop being silly.
He tried to steal some alcohol and assaulted a couple guys in the process. It was long thought that he blinded one of them in one eye, but turns out the guy had already been missing the eye and suffered no lasting damage. Still a shitty, violent, racially-charged thing to have done tho.
http://jezebel.com/mark-wahlberg-beating-victim-says-actor-did-not-blind-h-1670074037
GoldenEye 007
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Ok. Sucks and hazing has no legitimate place in any organization. But it was 25 years ago. And he was actually caught, was punished, and the organization shut down.
Am I supposed to be mad at him now or something?
Am I supposed to be mad at him now or something?
Hans.Gruber
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Exactly. I am so glad that nobody gives a F about me. If the media would care, they could find some pretty disgusting stuff I did when I was younger.
shadowsdarknes
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People enjoy projecting their outrage on the internet as a means of reassurance of their own superiority.
People enjoy looking down on others just to feel better about themselves.
Yes. You're supposed to boycott Mad Men and speak ill of Jon Hamm every time you hear of him.
way more
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Well, Amy Poehler drove drunk!
http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/11/01/3587365/amy-poehler-yes-please/
Even when shes being nostalgic about her hometown, with all that Bostonian pride, she is quick to chase descriptions of good times had while drinking in the woods with her horror at how many teenagers funerals she attended. I think about the few times I drove drunk and I picture all of the beautiful families I passed in my car whose lives I could have taken.
Pretty fucked up. I think her driving drunk and nearly killing is worse than setting a liar liar pants on fire?
tringworldso
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That's terrible...
Necromanti
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War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
He was punished for it (probably not severely enough but there you go) and it was a long, long time ago. I think we can move past this.
schlongdog
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American college is weird
Deadly Cyclone
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I wouldn't excuse this, but I myself was probably a lot more of a dick at 19 and was still stupid and young. I'm 28 now and feel like 19 was ages ago.
Still a terrible thing to do overall.
Red Liquorice
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Boozy, red faced over the hill men are my fetish.If it's any consolation, Jon Hamm is in the midst of a messy breakup with his longtime partner, just did an (unsuccessful?) stint in rehab for alcoholism, is aging like a slice of unrefrigerated Hamm...
...and will never win an Emmy.
Risible
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I feel there's a huge difference between doing stupid shit when you're young and doing malicious stuff when you're young.
The former feels like a marker of immaturity while they latter seems more indicative of personality.
I did plenty of stupid shit as a young man,but none of it aimed at hurting others.
The former feels like a marker of immaturity while they latter seems more indicative of personality.
I did plenty of stupid shit as a young man,but none of it aimed at hurting others.
shadowsdarknes
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Excusing him would imply he didn't deserve punishment. Nobody seems to be making that case here.
However, people don't necessarily believe that a string of behaviors 25 years ago during a commonly immature period in one's life is reflective of his character today.
And that's entirely reasonable.
Zen_Arcade
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Because adults make mistakes and change too. It's dumb to sit there and judge them as if they don't. It's not making an excuse. It's saying that he did something wrong, but he hasn't done anything wrong in a while, so I'm not going to sit around holding a mistake he made 20 years ago over his head, especially if he learned from it. That would be a really petty and immature thing to do. By your logic anyone who gets in trouble with the law should be judged as a criminal for the rest of their life.
AwesomePossum
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Golly, people sure are judgemental.
Emphasis on seems.
It was decades ago, and there are no reports of him doing that again. Strongly seems like it was just a dirty phase in his life rather than something inherent in him.
This would be a different conversation a year after the incident.
Wait until you're 30, and you'll realize what an immature fool you were at 18, and how unlike an adult you were, despite what you thought.
Maybe you were just different but yeah, there's a lot of 19 year olds that "wouldn't know better", especially when caught up in he gang mentality of a fraternity.
Machine
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Plenty of young men have anger management issues and poor self-control. I had guys try to pick fights with me on more than one occasion when I was that age. When I refused to respond they usually ended up finding someone else to fight. I don't consider that malice, just being young and stupid.
RockTurtle
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More time has passed (25 years ), than his age at the time he did something stupid and reckless (19 years old).
the fact that, as far as i know, he hasn't had anymore issues with the law and seems to be a well mannered person means he has changed.
its been a long time, people can change.
the fact that, as far as i know, he hasn't had anymore issues with the law and seems to be a well mannered person means he has changed.
its been a long time, people can change.
Marky Mark
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FalsettoVibe
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That hair...
BertramCooper
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Yeah, that all makes me feel so much better, thanks.If it's any consolation, Jon Hamm is in the midst of a messy breakup with his longtime partner, just did an (unsuccessful?) stint in rehab for alcoholism, is aging like a slice of unrefrigerated Hamm...
...and will never win an Emmy.
way more
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Well, that shut me up. Still, he's a very funny man. It's cosmically imbalanced that such an adonis would have humility and humor . He can go toe-to-toe-to-toe with the insulated Sklar bros. Or he can be open with the mad cap world of El Chupacabra con el besito en el jeuvo
DoktorEvil
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Everyone deserves a second chance and he didn't escape prosecution.
Seems like an article meant to discredit his acting ability(which admittedly has only been "guy in a suit").
I'm sure there are plenty of people posting in this very thread hiding some very dirty laundry and are being hypocritical as fuck, but hey let's jump on the Emmy-nominated actor for shit he's done 25 years ago and was punished for.
Seems like an article meant to discredit his acting ability(which admittedly has only been "guy in a suit").
I'm sure there are plenty of people posting in this very thread hiding some very dirty laundry and are being hypocritical as fuck, but hey let's jump on the Emmy-nominated actor for shit he's done 25 years ago and was punished for.
Of course people can change. El Hajj Malik Shabazz went from pimping at 19 to being one of the greatest Americans in history. No one's going to sugarcoat pimping women though. The same mentality displayed here is why frats continue their shenanigans to begin with.
Y'all went in on some children for climbing a statue but a 19yr old setting someone on fire is just "lol we were all immature at that age DUH".
Y'all went in on some children for climbing a statue but a 19yr old setting someone on fire is just "lol we were all immature at that age DUH".
Lmao
It worked, lucky for him he straightened out. He was given a slap on the wrist as far as punishment though.
LOL. Hey, setting people afire is a part of growing up in America.
He never paid for it. And no it shouldn't ruin his life forever though the topic coming up during one's job interview would get a prospective employee laughed out the office.
Having been in Delta Upsilon at Penn State, I can say yes. Life long friends, did some fun and dumb stuff, and had a great time in college
How do you consider Malcom X one of America's greatest citizens? Seriously
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Only a guy in a suit... Firstly, Don Draper - fantastic character and performance. Second, he's been Emmy nominated for comedy too. Plus he was great in Black Mirror...
Shake Appeal
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Dude apparently sucks, but that won't stop me enjoying his performance as Don Draper.
DoktorEvil
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All I know was that he's done Mad Men, the Disney movie about cricketers trying baseball, and co-started in that Larry David film Clear History.
TheOohChild
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I am super pissed at 19 year old Jon Hamm right now
Owed T'Alex
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Well put.
WyndhamPrice
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It's funny that we love watching characters on TV shows grow and change and learn from their past mistakes but we can't seem to do that to real people who did something 25 years ago and clearly aren't the same as they were before.
Spanx McFranks
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Eh, whatever. Everyone is stupid when they are young. You can't judge a person by what they did 20 years ago.
Gnome Scat
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That was a really shitty thing to do, but I'm not gonna judge a guy now for something he did 25 years ago.
brochiller
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Well said.
What he did is shitty but do we live in a world now that if you were once a criminal you are always a criminal? Doing something wrong in the past doesn't change who you are today. There's no reason to put everyone who has done even one thing wrong under a microscope. I guess if you can't forgive him then you think that he should still be in jail for what he did if it's that unforgivable, which is absurd.
In this thread I learned adults or young people don't have the capacity to learn, change, or better themselves as time goes on. You can think someone is an asshole for what they did long ago, but that doesn't justify why you think they're still the same kind of asshole now.
The only people that don't deserve that respect and courtesy are serial killers or rapists, personally.
The only people that don't deserve that respect and courtesy are serial killers or rapists, personally.
I never said that. The amount of projection in this thread is so bizarre.
depths20XX
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Eh, you still labeled the dude as an asshole for something he did 25 years ago.
I did some asshole'ish things in highschool (granted I never assaulted anyone) but I'd like to think I'm not an asshole to this day.
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