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Madden Season 3: Rules, current draft positions and more inside!

Mrbob

Member
:lol

Well, I now know what you were complaining about before matrixdouche. :)

CK stop defending your cheese. :p
 
Mrbob said:
I can play a little after 4:30PM Central. You will feel the reinvigorated Rams fury. :lol

Bring it! I'm still gunning for a wild card spot and you will be the first rung on that ladder!
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
So what I shouldn't control any players? You want me to not control my running back after I juked the hell out of you twice to break long runs last night? My DE play is not a guaranteed sack, and I am straight up telling everyone right now that 3rd down and 5+ I will expect a pass (like any sane defensive coordinator) I will likely come out with three DLs at the line and I will spread them and tell them to attack the outside. Why not try a draw? Oh, it's the Mike Martz of GAF football, why run when you can pass. I don't understand how Fifty and Dskillz who I have played more than anyone else don't have a problem with this.
 

Mrbob

Member
Relax dude. I already said I think we should have no bannings in season 3 so you can use your DE to your hearts content.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I'm settled, I want the Dolphins. Only problem I'd have with them is the running game is a bit weak, other than that they are the team for me.

For Mrbob: LE - Peppers - 96 overall, RE - Rucker - 93 overall, DT - Jenkins - 98 overall, DT - Buckner - 90 overall.

You'd do well not to complain about D-lines. :p
 

Fifty

Member
Bob, run inside, and then he won't do that. It's very basic stuff.


With that said, two of the players who hadn't made up their mind about a team have. I'm using the Saints, and CK the Dolphins. Of course someone ahead of us could steal our team, but I seriously doubt it, and they'd be a dick to do it.
 

Mrbob

Member
Ok, let me rephrase my complaint. I don't care if the cpu tries to bum rush me from the outside on the end. Because the CPU doesn't take the same persuit angle like a human. Just like CB/LB blitzing the CPU doesn't angle nearly as precise. Have a DE run around manually is a lot more efficient, and it is exactly the same as controlling a linebacker and rushing in manually yourself. So I say we bring back manual linebacker control including rushing because effectively this is exactly what the outside DE is doing. And I kept on calling passing plays that game CK because I wanted to see how effective that rush was. Make no mistake, I caught it early on and even pointed it out to you in the 2nd quarter over live. It was a non league game so I didn't care if I won or lost. I wanted to see how effective rushing like that was.

If I get the team I hope for I'm fully going to exploit what I saw that game in season 3.
 

Fifty

Member
bring back manual linebacker control? You have always been able to manually control a linebacker.

Anyway, you still haven't said why you didn't just run inside on him to get him thinking about what to do. That's what a smart player would do. Try that next time and I promise you won't want to bitch as much.
 

Mrbob

Member
bring back manual linebacker control? You have always been able to manually control a linebacker.

Not for blitzing.

I just did in my edit. It was a non league game I didn't care about the win. But I wanted to see how effective that outside rush was.

If you ever play me in a non league game I don't play exactly like I would in a league game 'cause it is more about me testing new stuff out.
 

Fifty

Member
Well that might have made it look more effective than it was. If I'm covering a WR and he runs a streak every play, of course the odds are higher that I'm going to pick it off. Since he's a user, not the AI, he's going to catch on to what you're doing and be able to exploit it. Yes, he might have sacked you more than you've liked, but his odds kept going up the more times you called it. Totally different than a money play like a post that the CPU misses every time, because CK was able to concentrate solely on the rush.

edit: and yes, there is nothing wrong with blitzing with a LB. I have done it, and seen it, and it's been perfectly normal. The only thing I remember being banned was manual CORNERBACK blitzing, which people complained that you did too much. Linebacker blitzes take more skill because you have to navigate through a hole rather than just standing at the LOS and blitzing.
 

Mrbob

Member
WTF we can blitz with the linebacker manually? I thought that was off limits? I still see the DE rush the same way because the DE can run around the offensive lineman very easily because the CPU can't react as efficiently. It is a major exploit that is just as bad as the CB bliz. But lets roll with it.
 

Fifty

Member
Mrbob said:
WTF we can blitz with the linebacker manually? I thought that was off limits?


Maybe it is if you line up next to the ends and blitz, but I've never seen or heard of a reason why it shouldn't be used otherwise.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
If you want to play a game now to test your rushing theories I can play one. I'll even pick my season 3 team that has a worse line than my season 2 team.
 

Ramirez

Member
I thought we weren't allowed to bring the Safeties up to the line?Gun did that alot in our game and it made it that much worse as far as pressure.The whole game was bullshit in my opinion,but I don't think it was an off game,aside from that one fluke where I blew him out I've always had complaints about his DL play.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
You cant bluff a safety blitz,you either bring the safeties up and blitz or you dont bring them in at all...atleast thats what I thought was the rule or not :lol

I get so confused about the rules half the time cause everyone plays different styles so I sorta just lose track of how we're supossed to play.
 
i agree the double safety up makes it hard to run, but then again it should. i know the last time i played gun, i burned him pretty badly on PA passes because he blitzed w/ those linebackers. there should be no putting safties up and having them drop back into coverage. if your Safeties are coming up to the line, you should have to blitz them or i would call it cheese. i gashed guns run D pretty bad too by running quick hitters up the middle. the key is to hike the ball very fast, so there is no time for defensive adjustments
 

Ramirez

Member
Man take that line plus safeties at the line like that,its fuckin impossible.

PA=Automatic sack for me when I tried it,no matter the fact that Dunn had just got done runnin like a 60 yard TD.Those Eagles,they don't get fooled!
 

Slo

Member
If you have shitty corners that can't play bump and run, bringing your safeties up is a great way to get beaten deep by the fly route. Just ask the Colts.
 

Gunstar77

GAF Madden 2006 Season 1 NFC Champ
Ramirez said:
I thought we weren't allowed to bring the Safeties up to the line?Gun did that alot in our game and it made it that much worse as far as pressure.The whole game was bullshit in my opinion,but I don't think it was an off game,aside from that one fluke where I blew him out I've always had complaints about his DL play.

Wrong!!! We are not allowed to bring the safeties up to the line unless they are blitzing and they were blitzing. The cheese is when people bring the safeties up to the line and then drop back into coverage.
 

Gunstar77

GAF Madden 2006 Season 1 NFC Champ
FrenchMovieTheme said:
ck, i ban the falcons because they are complete cheese. i understand there are dangerous offenses in this game, it's not about that. it's not about beating the falcons, cause i have done it and im going to do it again in the playoffs. the problem, and you will see if you play ram, is that you normally have to play the perfect game to beat the falcons. the reason being is that you can probably score with vick whenever you want. you have nearly unlimited time in the pocket, unless the defense blitzes 2 guys. yeah, every once in a while you will get a game like ram had against gunstar, but it doesn't happen often. the vikings are a bitch team too, but i think most people can play a decent game against them and stay in it

Yep, this is the only way I found to stop Vick. I send at least 1 blitzer and sometimes 2 and I keep my D-Line wide but it is not a 100% more like 70% successful. The other problem is Ram is very good at picking apart zones which means I had to blitz out of man to man coverage too.
 

Ramirez

Member
Blitzing or not blitzing I find it equally lame considering how good of pressure you get anyways from your line.
 

Gunstar77

GAF Madden 2006 Season 1 NFC Champ
Ramirez said:
Blitzing or not blitzing I find it equally lame considering how good of pressure you get anyways from your line.

Well I know a few of us feel the way Vick abuses Defenses is lame. Also, if my D-Line was as good as you say then I would have all wins so far in this League but that isn't the case. All I can say is you do it to yourself by the way you drop back 10 to 15 yards everytime the defense is in man to man. Here is a little hint, STEP INTO THE POCKET. Don't give me the BS that it can't be done either because FMT and DJ have done it many times to me.
 

Rorschach

Member
towlie.gif


Could someone post the rules? I tried reading this thread and the previous season thread to see what the consensus is on the rules, but there doesn't seem to be one. I read "You're not allowed to..." and then 2 posts later I read "Yeah, you are allowed to..."

Also, did we decide on All-Madden or All-Pro?
 

Ramirez

Member
The reason I was dropping back was because I had 4 people chasing me every time,then add on to that safeties/lbs blitzing the middle and there is no pocket.

And would you all give the Vick shit a rest,I run with him maybe 2 times a game and usually when I do run with him the game is already over.I won 57 games with Tommy Maddox at the helm,Vick has nothing to do with being able to stop my offense.But whatever,you wanna bring your safeties up,bring'em up,its cheese,IMO,but whatever.If you do use the Eagles next season I'd like to request that FMT don't schedule us anymore than he has to because playing you is absolutely no fun,and I'm not the only one that feels that way,but apparently I'm the only one that will say anything,heh.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I'm not saying shit about anything anymore...Im always labeled the friggin cry baby :lol :(
 

Ramirez

Member
Yea and I don't get that,I never say anything unless I feel I truly was at some sort of disadvantage.I could care less if I win or lose,I was talking to Matrix the entire time I was playing Gun talking about how much fun I wasnt having.
 

Maverick

Member
Yeah, the one thing that is actually nearly impossible to beat is faggots who bluff blitz their safties. The Madden devs fucked that one up big time. It's like a goalline formation that covers the pass as well as a nickel formation.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I know that I want the Dolphins. Why would anyone else want to take them, honestly... I am just making my intentions known.

I will reveal, however, that I had four teams in serious consideration, all four of them geared specifically to beating DMczaf. These four teams: Broncos, Bills, Saints, and Dolphins. Fifty somehow wanted two of those teams, and Matrix wanted the other. Since I will have the better record over those two, I am going with the Dolphins since they expressed no interest in the team anyway. I was looking for four specific qualities and each of these teams have it, and actually I think the Phins have more than what I even wanted. Fifty, Matrix, if you want the dirt I can privately tell you the four things that will beat DM. We gotta stick together against his tyrannical rule of our conference!

However I will say that Chris Chambers pissed the hell out of me last night against Fifty, what the fuck.
 

Mrbob

Member
=Wellington
I will reveal, however, that I had four teams in serious consideration, all four of them geared specifically to beating DMczaf. These four teams: Broncos, Bills, Saints, and Dolphins. Fifty somehow wanted two of those teams, and Matrix wanted the other. Since I will have the better record over those two, I am going with the Dolphins since they expressed no interest in the team anyway. I was looking for four specific qualities and each of these teams have it, and actually I think the Phins have more than what I even wanted. Fifty, Matrix, if you want the dirt I can privately tell you the four things that will beat DM. We gotta stick together against his tyrannical rule of our conference!

.


:lol :lol Good luck!

End the DM tyranny! :D
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
Ramirez said:
PA=Automatic sack for me when I tried it,no matter the fact that Dunn had just got done runnin like a 60 yard TD.Those Eagles,they don't get fooled!

Yeah PA against Gunstarr is just asking for a sack. It's crazy
 

Gunstar77

GAF Madden 2006 Season 1 NFC Champ
Ramirez said:
The reason I was dropping back was because I had 4 people chasing me every time,then add on to that safeties/lbs blitzing the middle and there is no pocket.

And would you all give the Vick shit a rest,I run with him maybe 2 times a game and usually when I do run with him the game is already over.I won 57 games with Tommy Maddox at the helm,Vick has nothing to do with being able to stop my offense.But whatever,you wanna bring your safeties up,bring'em up,its cheese,IMO,but whatever.If you do use the Eagles next season I'd like to request that FMT don't schedule us anymore than he has to because playing you is absolutely no fun,and I'm not the only one that feels that way,but apparently I'm the only one that will say anything,heh.

Whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better. The fact is, DJ has beaten me 3 times in a row with the Redskins against my Eagles and have never bitched once and matter of fact in a weird way almost enjoy losing as much as I do winning, because I can't wait to play him again and try something different. So make up all the BS you need to so you can feel better. Personally Ramirez I think you are great player but sometimes people lose, I remember getting destroyed by you and guess what that was my fault. Not your D-Line, not Vick, not some other made up flaw, my fault. Personally I would like to still play you but if that is the way you feel then I guess you have that right.

PS. I am sorry if I bother anybody else with my play style but blitzing is apart of the NFL and there is 3 other players in our league that do it more then me.
 

Ramirez

Member
Yea,I'm doin it to make myself feel better,man whatever.In real life blitzes can be picked up,not on Madden however,not as much as they should anyways if at all.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Wellington said:
I know that I want the Dolphins. Why would anyone else want to take them, honestly... I am just making my intentions known.

I will reveal, however, that I had four teams in serious consideration, all four of them geared specifically to beating DMczaf. These four teams: Broncos, Bills, Saints, and Dolphins. Fifty somehow wanted two of those teams, and Matrix wanted the other. Since I will have the better record over those two, I am going with the Dolphins since they expressed no interest in the team anyway. I was looking for four specific qualities and each of these teams have it, and actually I think the Phins have more than what I even wanted. Fifty, Matrix, if you want the dirt I can privately tell you the four things that will beat DM. We gotta stick together against his tyrannical rule of our conference!

However I will say that Chris Chambers pissed the hell out of me last night against Fifty, what the fuck.


Feel free to tell me those 4 things :lol

My pm box is open :D
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Thanks for that info Ck :)

The evil one will never find out...unless he has the ability to hack into my pm's.


As for season 3...I'm really leaning towards picking the Bills if they're still around,I think they are a good fit for me...I just need to work on my D with them,so far Fifty has been racking up major yardage in the air against me using the Saints in practice games against them.
 
ok, i have redone the leagues/division alignments (not completely, but some). i have completed entire schedules for 2 possible leagues:

a 16 man league and an 18 man league. if malley buys madden and wants in, we can find one more (i will find someone) to make it 18. in which case there will be 6 divisions with 3 teams in each division and 3 divisions per conference. the schedule in that case isn't quite as clear cut (where i can say "You play everyone in your division 3 times, plus conference twice" etc), but that makes it kind of cool because you are playing many people in the league. the one constant in that situation IS that you play everyone in your division 3 times.

anyways we'll see which league ends up happening
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Matrix said:
As for season 3...I'm really leaning towards picking the Bills if they're still around,I think they are a good fit for me...I just need to work on my D with them,so far Fifty has been racking up major yardage in the air against me using the Saints in practice games against them.

He's been racking up major yardage against me too, don't worry about it.
 

Fifty

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
ok, i have redone the leagues/division alignments (not completely, but some). i have completed entire schedules for 2 possible leagues:

a 16 man league and an 18 man league. if malley buys madden and wants in, we can find one more (i will find someone) to make it 18. in which case there will be 6 divisions with 3 teams in each division and 3 divisions per conference. the schedule in that case isn't quite as clear cut (where i can say "You play everyone in your division 3 times, plus conference twice" etc), but that makes it kind of cool because you are playing many people in the league. the one constant in that situation IS that you play everyone in your division 3 times.

anyways we'll see which league ends up happening


Great work, although I'd love for it to stay at 16 (nothing against Malley of course, but 3 day deadlines are tight for anyone, even if they're fanatics like us.. It's good that you can assign wins, but these leagues have always been the best because the vast majority of us are playing our games on time. Nevertheless, you're doing a good job handing it so far, and whichever direction we take I'm confident in.
 

Gunstar77

GAF Madden 2006 Season 1 NFC Champ
Ramirez said:
Yea,I'm doin it to make myself feel better,man whatever.In real life blitzes can be picked up,not on Madden however,not as much as they should anyways if at all.

You are correct there, in real life the blitz can be picked up. Now how do they do it? Hmm, maybe they keep their TEs and RBs in to block? I can tell you for a fact that you never once tried to keep any of your TEs or RBs in. And for anyone that doesn't know how to keep their TEs and RBs in here is how you do it. You hit the Y button and then press the TEs or RBs assigned button and then hit the white button or the black button. Each button is to block on the left or right side of the field.

PS. FMT good game, I need to be more careful with my play calls on my side of the 50.
 
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